wrestlinfanatic

Feb 24 2017, 11:26 AM

Where is Jake Haugan at 160?

shoot_to_thrill

Feb 24 2017, 12:41 PM

Or was it HSA la eh?

shoot_to_thrill

Feb 24 2017, 12:17 PM

Sounds like Haugen is out if he's not in the list. Things happen. HSA kee from Marshall was hurt in practice this week. Maybe Haugen got hurt. Good luck to all the teams!

Gophergrappler

Feb 25 2017, 07:32 PM

Anyone know what was going on with the fairmont coach, the refs, and the rule book during the true second matches?

spacecowboy

Feb 25 2017, 11:13 PM

I would like to make a comment on the new stalling rules. I like good action packed wrestling but have we gone too far? I felt like I was watching an NFL game where the officials were throwing too many ticky tack pass interference flags. Sometimes the action of defending a take down takes you off the mat and shouldn't be considered fleeing or stalling. And I say that as the wrestlers I was supported at times were the beneficiary of those calls. A couple of really well wrestled matches were ruined a bit by too much officiating. The Nielson/Altermatt ( thought the stall call on Nielson was not warranted to tie it up for a really super duper action packed match) and the Schroepfer/Maldando come to mind(what a circus disaster that would have been if they decided after Schroepfers arm was raised to bring the kids back out on that mat. Let the kids win the match on the mat. I like it when a wrestler who is obviously stalling gets called but I think what we have now is a bit too much.

wrestlinfanatic

Feb 25 2017, 11:33 PM

spacecowboy

Feb 25 2017, 11:13 PM

I would like to make a comment on the new stalling rules. I like good action packed wrestling but have we gone too far? I felt like I was watching an NFL game where the officials were throwing too many ticky tack pass interference flags. Sometimes the action of defending a take down takes you off the mat and shouldn't be considered fleeing or stalling. And I say that as the wrestlers I was supported at times were the beneficiary of those calls. A couple of really well wrestled matches were ruined a bit by too much officiating. The Nielson/Altermatt ( thought the stall call on Nielson was not warranted to tie it up for a really super duper action packed match) and the Schroepfer/Maldando come to mind(what a circus disaster that would have been if they decided after Schroepfers arm was raised to bring the kids back out on that mat. Let the kids win the match on the mat. I like it when a wrestler who is obviously stalling gets called but I think what we have now is a bit too much.

Especially the Hutt-Welch match. The ref basically gave that match to Hutt.

shoot_to_thrill

Feb 26 2017, 09:50 AM

First of all, congrats again to all who moved on. Reward the aggressor who is being offensive. Working the edge and playing defense is not good Wrestling, it IS stalling, and is bad for the sport. My question is why they don't call the match the same in the first period as they do in the third. Then the refs feel like they need to make it up for some reason. Call it early, make kids wrestle. Zero consistency has been very frustrating all season.

spacecowboy

Feb 25 2017, 11:13 PM

I would like to make a comment on the new stalling rules. I like good action packed wrestling but have we gone too far? I felt like I was watching an NFL game where the officials were throwing too many ticky tack pass interference flags. Sometimes the action of defending a take down takes you off the mat and shouldn't be considered fleeing or stalling. And I say that as the wrestlers I was supported at times were the beneficiary of those calls. A couple of really well wrestled matches were ruined a bit by too much officiating. The Nielson/Altermatt ( thought the stall call on Nielson was not warranted to tie it up for a really super duper action packed match) and the Schroepfer/Maldando come to mind(what a circus disaster that would have been if they decided after Schroepfers arm was raised to bring the kids back out on that mat. Let the kids win the match on the mat. I like it when a wrestler who is obviously stalling gets called but I think what we have now is a bit too much.

The_Shoot

Feb 26 2017, 10:04 AM

shoot_to_thrill

Feb 26 2017, 09:50 AM

First of all, congrats again to all who moved on. Reward the aggressor who is being offensive. Working the edge and playing defense is not good Wrestling, it IS stalling, and is bad for the sport. My question is why they don't call the match the same in the first period as they do in the third. Then the refs feel like they need to make it up for some reason. Call it early, make kids wrestle. Zero consistency has been very frustrating all season.

Not only be consistent 1st-3rd period but, why wait until the end of the year to be so strict with stalling? From start to finish of the season, be as consistent as the post-season, I bet quality of wrestling will improve as well.

shoot_to_thrill

Feb 26 2017, 07:15 PM

That's the kind of biased opinion an official can't have. Just because they think a Wrestler or a team is better, they call it different. That's really discouraging to hear that you think it's OK to call the top 2 teams in the state different. An official should not have that opinion of the Wrestlers on the mat. Let the Wrestling they do or don't do decide it.

WrestlingOfficial

Feb 26 2017, 12:52 PM

Yep scared to call stalling against AV :)

Top 2 teams in the state, top 30 teams in the country 19 state qualifiers, 9 matches of 3 points or less and yep there was a lot of stalling in that dual.

Come on MAN!!