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Section 3AA; How we looking?
Topic Started: Oct 3 2016, 09:18 PM (140,352 Views)
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Feb 26 2017, 07:43 PM
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Feb 26 2017, 07:15 PM
That's the kind of biased opinion an official can't have. Just because they think a Wrestler or a team is better, they call it different. That's really discouraging to hear that you think it's OK to call the top 2 teams in the state different. An official should not have that opinion of the Wrestlers on the mat. Let the Wrestling they do or don't do decide it.
I wouldn't call it biased to say that the level of action was so quick paced and tons of action, so stalling wasn't warranted very often.
greatfan, you really don't think there was a need for more stalling calls in the AV/Shakopee dual?

Some on Shakopee, much more on AV---several matches included. And yes, lots of the wrestlers were/are very good wrestlers and there was plenty of stalling going on.
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No bias here at all. Just that the quality of wrestling was very good and therefore both wrestlers were getting after it. Was there stalling absolutely and was it called absolutely..

I believe the 220 lber was 1 call away from disqualification. Go back and look at the book there was stalling called so please don't insinuate we make up our minds before the dual just because of who they are.

Just stating for those kids to be that good and matches that close means a lot of good wrestling went on that night but on the forum people want to get on their high horses and claim there was a ton of stalling and the refs were scared to call stalling.

Not that it matters but in the dual the week before a different Apple valley wrestler vs a very good PL team was 1 stall away from being DQ as well.

So stalling gets called when it is warranted no matter what singlet they are wearing.



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I think part of the issue is consistency between officials. Much of that has to do with the fact that it is a judgement call. Others may not call the stall as often because they want to let the match be more determined by the wrestlers on the mat and perhaps deep down subconciously don't like the new rule change. You have some that call it too much and others not enough and that can happen at the same tournament
Edited by spacecowboy, Feb 27 2017, 08:32 AM.
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I hear that they are in need of good quality referees. You guys should go to the MSHSL web sight and sign up under the "Become An Official" tab. Put on the wristbands and get out there, make it more consistent. ;)
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all fans and most coaches want something, then when the official calls something, most people bitch about it. I agree, get your strips and blow the whistle, to see how easy it really is.
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I agree that officiating is a very tough job which has been made a lot tougher with the stall rules change they made this past year, unfortunately. Never was much of a fan of watching yet alone reffing what is starting to look like sumo wrestling. A little piece of advice for you heavy weights this coming weekend. If you have a close match in the 3rd period no need to go for the take down, just bulldog your opponent off the mat a few times a victory will be yours.
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Feb 28 2017, 05:50 AM
I agree that officiating is a very tough job which has been made a lot tougher with the stall rules change they made this past year, unfortunately. Never was much of a fan of watching yet alone reffing what is starting to look like sumo wrestling. A little piece of advice for you heavy weights this coming weekend. If you have a close match in the 3rd period no need to go for the take down, just bulldog your opponent off the mat a few times a victory will be yours.
This argument seems kind of silly to me. While there are wrestlers that like to just push their opponents around (I will acknowledge that), the argument could be made that the wrestler being pushed isn't completely helpless. Force works both ways. You can circle in, you can use momentum to work a duckunder, slide by, shot, or a throw, you can work to the side, etc. The wrestler being pushed isn't a helpless doll. I mean I get your argument but it seems like one of those arguments that we could argue in a circle all day long.
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Feb 22 2017, 01:10 PM
I just Asked a question about the possibility of a date change due to the 10-12 inches of snow expected Friday?? Just wondering what time it all would start on Saturday is all, and the backup plan. I want my passengers and us from Worthington safe that's all?? Someone's been eating those sour grapes from wabasso again from Saturday? :)
Go Worthington Go
How's worthington looking for state individuals?
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Feb 21 2017, 08:41 AM
Here's another bold prediction. Worthington will send the most kids to state in 3AA. Best coach, best fans, best concession stand, and best overall kids in the section...
Go Worthington go
How many did you end up sending?
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This is an all around weak section.
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Feb 28 2017, 11:38 AM
This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
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Feb 28 2017, 11:39 AM
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This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
Leave your bias to a different section. There are plenty of wrestlers who have worked hard all season. There are some dominant wrestlers from 3AA and I think there will be many that will place.
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Oh look... 2 new people to the conversation with brand new accounts... posting with in minutes of each other, and with nothing positive to say.

Cool! Guess what, no one cares about your worthless input.
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I'm just saying that this section isn't as tough as the other sections in AA.
P.S. my other account got messed up and was lost and couldn't be recovered
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Feb 28 2017, 11:39 AM
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This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
This is one of the weaker sections but if you think no one from this section is going to place you got to be smoking something. Maybe no champs here will but there will be state finalist(s) from this section and many place winners. Wouldn't want to jynx any of them by making a prediction so I will let it go at that.
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Feb 28 2017, 11:53 AM
I'm just saying that this section isn't as tough as the other sections in AA.
P.S. my other account got messed up and was lost and couldn't be recovered
Kodonald would bet money your real name isn't even "Scott Nathan".........
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Feb 28 2017, 11:55 AM
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Feb 28 2017, 11:39 AM
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This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
This is one of the weaker sections but if you think no one from this section is going to place you got to be smoking something. Maybe no champs here will but there will be state finalist(s) from this section and many place winners. Wouldn't want to jynx any of them by making a prediction so I will let it go at that.
I agree with you spacecowboy there are a few wrestlers that are decent
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Feb 28 2017, 11:57 AM
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I'm just saying that this section isn't as tough as the other sections in AA.
P.S. my other account got messed up and was lost and couldn't be recovered
Kodonald would bet money your real name isn't even "Scott Nathan".........
I've been Scott David Nathan since 1971 young sap
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I'm just saying that this section isn't as tough as the other sections in AA.
P.S. my other account got messed up and was lost and couldn't be recovered
Kodonald would bet money your real name isn't even "Scott Nathan".........
Real mature Kodonald, suspecting that is name is not Scott Nathan? Childish.
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Feb 28 2017, 11:44 AM
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This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
Leave your bias to a different section. There are plenty of wrestlers who have worked hard all season. There are some dominant wrestlers from 3AA and I think there will be many that will place.
ZZZZ dead and came back to life with another couple of names.. lucky us:(
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This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
I highly doubt that Solomon Nielsen and Jaxson Rohman will both not place. They are both potential finalists
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This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
I highly doubt that Solomon Nielsen and Jaxson Rohman will both not place. They are both potential finalists
I never said no one would place that was Mike, I meant that besides those two and maybe a couple others, pretty weak.
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Feb 28 2017, 12:41 PM
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This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
I highly doubt that Solomon Nielsen and Jaxson Rohman will both not place. They are both potential finalists
I never said no one would place that was Mike, I meant that besides those two and maybe a couple others, pretty weak.
I am just saying that there are some high powered sections in AA. I just do not think section 3AA will compete at the Excel this year.
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I highly doubt that Solomon Nielsen and Jaxson Rohman will both not place. They are both potential finalists
I never said no one would place that was Mike, I meant that besides those two and maybe a couple others, pretty weak.
I am just saying that there are some high powered sections in AA. I just do not think section 3AA will compete at the Excel this year.
No medals??? I think that is absolutely ridiculous, we can't all be like KM!
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I never said no one would place that was Mike, I meant that besides those two and maybe a couple others, pretty weak.
I am just saying that there are some high powered sections in AA. I just do not think section 3AA will compete at the Excel this year.
No medals??? I think that is absolutely ridiculous, we can't all be like KM!
I realize we all cannot be like KM, but the one wrestler I believe has a good shot to medal is Zac Ringell. He has had a heck of a season.
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This is an all around weak section.
I agree with Scott, this section will not have one wrestler place at state.
I highly doubt that Solomon Nielsen and Jaxson Rohman will both not place. They are both potential finalists
I never said no one would place that was Mike, I meant that besides those two and maybe a couple others, pretty weak.
But you liked it which is pretty much the same thing.
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This section has a lot of good individuals that will compete at the X. Just because we don't have a dominant team doesn't mean there isn't any good wrestlers in this section.
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I am just saying that there are some high powered sections in AA. I just do not think section 3AA will compete at the Excel this year.
No medals??? I think that is absolutely ridiculous, we can't all be like KM!
I realize we all cannot be like KM, but the one wrestler I believe has a good shot to medal is Zac Ringell. He has had a heck of a season.
Out of all the wrestlers you think Rignell has the best shot???? Absolutely absurd!!
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No medals??? I think that is absolutely ridiculous, we can't all be like KM!
I realize we all cannot be like KM, but the one wrestler I believe has a good shot to medal is Zac Ringell. He has had a heck of a season.
Out of all the wrestlers you think Rignell has the best shot???? Absolutely absurd!!
You cannot take anything away from Ringnell, he is an explosive wrestler. He has the ability to upset anybody in his bracket.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I realize we all cannot be like KM, but the one wrestler I believe has a good shot to medal is Zac Ringell. He has had a heck of a season.
Out of all the wrestlers you think Rignell has the best shot???? Absolutely absurd!!
You cannot take anything away from Ringnell, he is an explosive wrestler. He has the ability to upset anybody in his bracket.
I highly doubt anyone besides Stauffacher, Luthens or maybe Diaz will give Gliva a decent match in that bracket
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