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Section 3AA; How we looking?
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thunderchicken	Mar 7 2017, 08:55 AM Post #571
Super Fan Posts: 231 Group: Die Hard Member #18,549 Joined: February 23, 2011	westernwrestlingfan Mar 7 2017, 08:51 AM I think there should be an additional consequence for opting up, like make it a minimum of 4 or 6 years. There are plenty of teams that are opting up for reasons other than to avoid competition and have for many consecutive years. The ones that go up or down every other year really screw it up for those that get pushed in or out of the section every time sections are realigned. It is tough on teams that are in different sections every other year to schedule section opponents. A little consistency would be nice. Also makes scheduling difficult for teams trying to face section opponents



ironman32	Mar 7 2017, 09:03 AM Post #572
Member Posts: 24 Group: Die Hard Member #23,535 Joined: January 25, 2016	westernwrestlingfan Mar 7 2017, 08:51 AM I think there should be an additional consequence for opting up, like make it a minimum of 4 or 6 years. There are plenty of teams that are opting up for reasons other than to avoid competition and have for many consecutive years. The ones that go up or down every other year really screw it up for those that get pushed in or out of the section every time sections are realigned. It is tough on teams that are in different sections every other year to schedule section opponents. A little consistency would be nice. I am not sure I would call it a consequence but I agree with it being a several year commitment, not allowing a team to change each time the re-alignment happens. Many times the scheduling for the next season is near complete by the time the season ends and they are already looking to schedule 2018-2019. By the time the teams on the edge schedule there new section they may be on their way out again.



Inside Trip	Mar 7 2017, 10:02 AM Post #573
Super Fan Posts: 244 Group: Die Hard Member #21,615 Joined: December 22, 2013	Adonis Blood Mar 7 2017, 08:16 AM Why work harder and compete against the teams you should be assigned with? As long as the MSHL allows teams to opt up there will be teams that jump to a different class. Some call it playing the system, some call it ducking competition, some claim they do it because it is best for their team. I think it teaches a horrible lesson, but obviously not everyone agrees with that. Hey you don't get to 800 wins without knowing how to work things. It has been noted that you are from pipestone. Remember, Pipestone used to opt up to AA as well. I personally don't care where teams wrestle. I do personally care if you are implying that Gary got to where he did by ducking competition or looking for the easy way out.



badger1	Mar 7 2017, 10:11 AM Post #574
Wrestling Fan Posts: 31 Group: Die Hard Member #22,419 Joined: October 22, 2014	Maybe this has already been said but when does a decision like switching have to officially be made?



scott83	Mar 7 2017, 10:17 AM Post #575
Super Fan Posts: 161 Group: Die Hard Member #6,204 Joined: August 5, 2006	I am surprised MSHSL allows teams to opt up or down every other year. Has to be a scheduling nightmare for Section alignments every other year after they find out who decides to opt up and down all the time in order to make sure there are somewhat equal amount of teams in each section. Also has to be difficult for AD's to schedule the following year events. If they put a stop to it sure would make things easier for all.



ironman32	Mar 7 2017, 10:22 AM Post #576
Member Posts: 24 Group: Die Hard Member #23,535 Joined: January 25, 2016	The decision had to be made to opt up by 8:00 am March 6th. Teams can only opt-up or stay in there assigned class. They CANNOT opt-down.



TFBDad	Mar 7 2017, 10:32 AM Post #577
Super Fan Posts: 311 Group: Die Hard Member #21,608 Joined: December 19, 2013	Inside Trip Mar 7 2017, 10:02 AM Adonis Blood Mar 7 2017, 08:16 AM Why work harder and compete against the teams you should be assigned with? As long as the MSHL allows teams to opt up there will be teams that jump to a different class. Some call it playing the system, some call it ducking competition, some claim they do it because it is best for their team. I think it teaches a horrible lesson, but obviously not everyone agrees with that. Hey you don't get to 800 wins without knowing how to work things. It has been noted that you are from pipestone. Remember, Pipestone used to opt up to AA as well. I personally don't care where teams wrestle. I do personally care if you are implying that Gary got to where he did by ducking competition or looking for the easy way out. Mshsl allows it. Not everybody likes it and just like free and reduced sometimes lots of people question it



Land shark	Mar 7 2017, 12:44 PM Post #578
Super Fan Posts: 482 Group: Die Hard Member #22,918 Joined: February 14, 2015	Inside Trip Mar 7 2017, 10:02 AM Adonis Blood Mar 7 2017, 08:16 AM Why work harder and compete against the teams you should be assigned with? As long as the MSHL allows teams to opt up there will be teams that jump to a different class. Some call it playing the system, some call it ducking competition, some claim they do it because it is best for their team. I think it teaches a horrible lesson, but obviously not everyone agrees with that. Hey you don't get to 800 wins without knowing how to work things. It has been noted that you are from pipestone. Remember, Pipestone used to opt up to AA as well. I personally don't care where teams wrestle. I do personally care if you are implying that Gary got to where he did by ducking competition or looking for the easy way out. Don't think you should be calling out one of the greatest high school coaches in mn. He's a very respected coach



Adonis Blood	Mar 7 2017, 01:10 PM Post #579
Fanatic Posts: 524 Group: Die Hard Member #18,710 Joined: March 10, 2011	Inside Trip Mar 7 2017, 10:02 AM Adonis Blood Mar 7 2017, 08:16 AM Why work harder and compete against the teams you should be assigned with? As long as the MSHL allows teams to opt up there will be teams that jump to a different class. Some call it playing the system, some call it ducking competition, some claim they do it because it is best for their team. I think it teaches a horrible lesson, but obviously not everyone agrees with that. Hey you don't get to 800 wins without knowing how to work things. It has been noted that you are from pipestone. Remember, Pipestone used to opt up to AA as well. I personally don't care where teams wrestle. I do personally care if you are implying that Gary got to where he did by ducking competition or looking for the easy way out. I'm from Pipestone. If Pipestone moved every 2 years based on which section they thought they could win I'd call them on it too. Wabasso/RRC always has a tough team, why diminish your accomplishments? Why not pick a section and stick with it? Why dodge competition? What lesson are you teaching?



Stumplifter	Mar 7 2017, 06:49 PM Post #580
Threadkiller Posts: 937 Group: Die Hard Member #3,877 Joined: December 3, 2005	ironman32 Mar 7 2017, 10:22 AM Teams can only opt-up or stay in there assigned class. They CANNOT opt-down. This :huh: One cannot "opt down".



winner09	Mar 7 2017, 08:24 PM Post #581
Super Fan Posts: 200 Group: Die Hard Member #3,811 Joined: November 27, 2005	Adonis Blood Mar 7 2017, 01:10 PM Inside Trip Mar 7 2017, 10:02 AM Adonis Blood Mar 7 2017, 08:16 AM Why work harder and compete against the teams you should be assigned with? As long as the MSHL allows teams to opt up there will be teams that jump to a different class. Some call it playing the system, some call it ducking competition, some claim they do it because it is best for their team. I think it teaches a horrible lesson, but obviously not everyone agrees with that. Hey you don't get to 800 wins without knowing how to work things. It has been noted that you are from pipestone. Remember, Pipestone used to opt up to AA as well. I personally don't care where teams wrestle. I do personally care if you are implying that Gary got to where he did by ducking competition or looking for the easy way out. I'm from Pipestone. If Pipestone moved every 2 years based on which section they thought they could win I'd call them on it too. Wabasso/RRC always has a tough team, why diminish your accomplishments? Why not pick a section and stick with it? Why dodge competition? What lesson are you teaching? This is not a good post for someone from Pipestone to make without looking at all the facts. It's funny because Pipestone was in AA from at least 2000-2008. Windom was also in AA when they made their run. JCC was in AA too. To say someone is running or going to an easier section is funny. You can make that assumption for Pipestone since the only time they made it to state was in A. Windom also went down to A after their huge runs in the mid 2000s. I don't get why you have to bash a team for making this decision. What if Pipestone goes back up to AA. Will you eat your words? Instead of posting something to bash another team for their decision, why not embrace the grind and challenge that your team will have to make.



Adonis Blood	Mar 8 2017, 07:45 AM Post #582
Fanatic Posts: 524 Group: Die Hard Member #18,710 Joined: March 10, 2011	winner09 Mar 7 2017, 08:24 PM Adonis Blood Mar 7 2017, 01:10 PM Inside Trip Mar 7 2017, 10:02 AM Adonis Blood Mar 7 2017, 08:16 AM Why work harder and compete against the teams you should be assigned with? As long as the MSHL allows teams to opt up there will be teams that jump to a different class. Some call it playing the system, some call it ducking competition, some claim they do it because it is best for their team. I think it teaches a horrible lesson, but obviously not everyone agrees with that. Hey you don't get to 800 wins without knowing how to work things. It has been noted that you are from pipestone. Remember, Pipestone used to opt up to AA as well. I personally don't care where teams wrestle. I do personally care if you are implying that Gary got to where he did by ducking competition or looking for the easy way out. I'm from Pipestone. If Pipestone moved every 2 years based on which section they thought they could win I'd call them on it too. Wabasso/RRC always has a tough team, why diminish your accomplishments? Why not pick a section and stick with it? Why dodge competition? What lesson are you teaching? This is not a good post for someone from Pipestone to make without looking at all the facts. It's funny because Pipestone was in AA from at least 2000-2008. Windom was also in AA when they made their run. JCC was in AA too. To say someone is running or going to an easier section is funny. You can make that assumption for Pipestone since the only time they made it to state was in A. Windom also went down to A after their huge runs in the mid 2000s. I don't get why you have to bash a team for making this decision. What if Pipestone goes back up to AA. Will you eat your words? Instead of posting something to bash another team for their decision, why not embrace the grind and challenge that your team will have to make. Thanks! You made most of my points for me. You stated Pipestone was in AA for 8 years, which is exactly what Wabasso/RRC doesn't do in picking a Class and sticking with it. I think all of us can look at the teams in a Section, see which of their wrestlers are graduating, and determine if that team will be up or down next year. From there you can guess as to which Section will offer you the greatest opportunity to be Section champ. To say different is wrong. If Pipestone suddenly decides to follow the Wabasso/RRC model of jumping Class every 2 years I will call them out on it too, I already stated as much.



TFBDad	Mar 8 2017, 07:58 AM Post #583
Super Fan Posts: 311 Group: Die Hard Member #21,608 Joined: December 19, 2013	I will admit, gives a bad impression!!! Edited by TFBDad, Mar 8 2017, 08:12 AM.



badger1	Mar 8 2017, 07:59 AM Post #584
Wrestling Fan Posts: 31 Group: Die Hard Member #22,419 Joined: October 22, 2014	This whole discussion makes me laugh as I coach in another state and movement of classes isn't determined by the schools itself. Each school has to turn in a projection as to its numbers over the next two years and then turn in the data to support that. The high school league then determines based on student numbers which class to put them in. It rarely changes over the years but does and isn't an immediate switch. The school is given a year, sometimes two to know they are switching unless it can show that its numbers will drop again in the near future. There have been some scenarios that schools have opted to apply to go up in class but schools can't just pick and choose over two year increments to where they want to be. That doesn't make any sense to me at all and I would hate to be an athletic director with all of this happening. Scheduling is a nightmare to begin with, I can't imagine what its like in this section.



ZZWORTH	Mar 8 2017, 05:43 PM Post #585
Wrestling Fan Posts: 86 Group: Die Hard Member #24,054 Joined: January 24, 2017	Just recovering from the state tourney sorry guys. Give a tip of the hat to my worthington boys tho. They tried their hardest. And will be a team with a force to be reckoned with next year. But how scary/good is fairmont/mcw team for next year. Is still gonna be a tall task, with all 3 state finalists back next year. I think fairmont is the early favorite for next year



BL Hornet	Mar 8 2017, 06:42 PM Post #586
Fantastic Posts: 1,361 Group: Fantastic Member #199 Joined: December 24, 2004	ZZWORTH Mar 8 2017, 05:43 PM Just recovering from the state tourney sorry guys. Give a tip of the hat to my worthington boys tho. They tried their hardest. And will be a team with a force to be reckoned with next year. But how scary/good is fairmont/mcw team for next year. Is still gonna be a tall task, with all 3 state finalists back next year. I think fairmont is the early favorite for next year Fairmont needs to shift everyone up a couple weights and fill the bottom in with young talent. They will be very good next year. Besides all the returning state wrestlers, they had several that were very close to making it and will be hungry. On another note, 3AA team did not do well at all at state. If it wasn't for Prunty how many matches in team were won? 1 or 2 out of 28?



DWB79	Mar 8 2017, 11:52 PM Post #587
Fantastic Posts: 6,362 Group: Fantastic Member #1,057 Joined: January 16, 2005	BL Hornet Mar 8 2017, 06:42 PM ZZWORTH Mar 8 2017, 05:43 PM Just recovering from the state tourney sorry guys. Give a tip of the hat to my worthington boys tho. They tried their hardest. And will be a team with a force to be reckoned with next year. But how scary/good is fairmont/mcw team for next year. Is still gonna be a tall task, with all 3 state finalists back next year. I think fairmont is the early favorite for next year Fairmont needs to shift everyone up a couple weights and fill the bottom in with young talent. They will be very good next year. Besides all the returning state wrestlers, they had several that were very close to making it and will be hungry. On another note, 3AA team did not do well at all at state. If it wasn't for Prunty how many matches in team were won? 1 or 2 out of 28? Yep. Worthington won 3 of 28 matches in the two duals. Prunty won 2--and they moved him off the more challenging kid (Horsman) from K-M to wrestle another kid that had around 20 wins. He won 4-2. Coincidentally, he beat Horsman later on in individuals, but I thought it was silly to bump him up in the dual as he should be facing the toughest kid possible. There was no need to move in the dual. They had literally no chance to beat K-M. Overall, I was a bit frustrated/disappointed in the section, only saw 7 state place winners and 3 of them were from Fairmont. Was hoping to see more. And then there was the debacle that was Worthington in the duals. Hopefully next year is better...



badger1	Mar 9 2017, 07:08 AM Post #588
Wrestling Fan Posts: 31 Group: Die Hard Member #22,419 Joined: October 22, 2014	First off I don't dislike or like Worthington, I do think they are coached well however. This section isn't deep, not one team this year didn't have some holes that coaches didn't have to try to maneuver around each dual. Yes Worthington struggled at State but who didn't againt K-M and ok Perham I had hoped our section would have shown better but lets not forget they won our section so who would have done better? Which leads me to the individual side and how are section gets zero respect in seedings. Might be because the lack of quality depth at every weight class shows up the most when our kids face battle tested kids, most of which probably are at pinnacle year round facing tough kids every day. Our good wrestlers may have three other kids in the section who can push them but those match ups don't happen very often with coaches moving kids around either trying to win the dual or save their kids seed at sections.



VDubU	Mar 9 2017, 10:30 AM Post #589
Fanatic Posts: 513 Group: Die Hard Member #16,934 Joined: February 6, 2010	ironman32 Mar 7 2017, 09:03 AM westernwrestlingfan Mar 7 2017, 08:51 AM I think there should be an additional consequence for opting up, like make it a minimum of 4 or 6 years. There are plenty of teams that are opting up for reasons other than to avoid competition and have for many consecutive years. The ones that go up or down every other year really screw it up for those that get pushed in or out of the section every time sections are realigned. It is tough on teams that are in different sections every other year to schedule section opponents. A little consistency would be nice. I am not sure I would call it a consequence but I agree with it being a several year commitment, not allowing a team to change each time the re-alignment happens. Many times the scheduling for the next season is near complete by the time the season ends and they are already looking to schedule 2018-2019. By the time the teams on the edge schedule there new section they may be on their way out again. Don't have a horse in this race but how does opting up affect the schedule? Teams schedule across all classes during the regular season so that wouldn't change. If they are in a conference the conference deals with that and what class you are in doesn't matter. Only change would be section time and those schedules aren't set until seeding. The potential for significant section changes though is present. For instance in Section 8AAA 6 of the 8 teams in it are opt ups.



ironman32	Mar 9 2017, 11:10 AM Post #590
Member Posts: 24 Group: Die Hard Member #23,535 Joined: January 25, 2016	VDubU Mar 9 2017, 10:30 AM ironman32 Mar 7 2017, 09:03 AM westernwrestlingfan Mar 7 2017, 08:51 AM I think there should be an additional consequence for opting up, like make it a minimum of 4 or 6 years. There are plenty of teams that are opting up for reasons other than to avoid competition and have for many consecutive years. The ones that go up or down every other year really screw it up for those that get pushed in or out of the section every time sections are realigned. It is tough on teams that are in different sections every other year to schedule section opponents. A little consistency would be nice. I am not sure I would call it a consequence but I agree with it being a several year commitment, not allowing a team to change each time the re-alignment happens. Many times the scheduling for the next season is near complete by the time the season ends and they are already looking to schedule 2018-2019. By the time the teams on the edge schedule there new section they may be on their way out again. Don't have a horse in this race but how does opting up affect the schedule? Teams schedule across all classes during the regular season so that wouldn't change. If they are in a conference the conference deals with that and what class you are in doesn't matter. Only change would be section time and those schedules aren't set until seeding. The potential for significant section changes though is present. For instance in Section 8AAA 6 of the 8 teams in it are opt ups. The scheduling is mainly an issue for the fringe teams, yes if you are located in the middle of region 3 like a Wabasso, you schedule all of those teams in region 3, A and AA. The problem is for teams like Fairmont, where they are equal distances from 3 different regions, and by teams opting up they could push Fairmont to section 1 or 2 which they don't have on their schedules because they have finally adjusted it for section 3 teams. If Fairmont wasn't in Section 3AA they wouldn't see any of the teams in it that isn't in their conference. I think everyone wants to wrestle everyone in their Section and it may be two years to make that happen for the "fringe" teams on opposite sides of the section. Then they get moved again cause of re-alignment.



ZZWORTH	Mar 9 2017, 11:52 AM Post #591
Wrestling Fan Posts: 86 Group: Die Hard Member #24,054 Joined: January 24, 2017	EARLY 2017-18 PREDICTIONS WITH CURRENT TEAMS 1. FAIRMONT/MCW 2.WORTHINGTON 3. WABASSO 4. MARSHALL 5. TMB/WWG 6. NEW ULM 7. QUAD 8. REDWOOD VALLEY 9. DB/LQPV 10. LUVERNE 11. FULDA/



bunnymama	Mar 9 2017, 02:18 PM Post #592
Wrestling Fan Posts: 54 Group: Die Hard Member #21,687 Joined: January 12, 2014	ZZWORTH Mar 9 2017, 11:52 AM EARLY 2017-18 PREDICTIONS WITH CURRENT TEAMS 1. FAIRMONT/MCW 2.WORTHINGTON 3. WABASSO 4. MARSHALL 5. TMB/WWG 6. NEW ULM 7. QUAD 8. REDWOOD VALLEY 9. DB/LQPV 10. LUVERNE 11. FULDA/ Way too early for that. The next season on the radar for this bunny is track!!!



ZZWORTH	Mar 9 2017, 03:06 PM Post #593
Wrestling Fan Posts: 86 Group: Die Hard Member #24,054 Joined: January 24, 2017	Yes, it does seem a bit early to speculate for next year. good luck to all in track, baseball, golf, and tennis go Worthington go



ironman32	Mar 10 2017, 10:06 AM Post #594
Member Posts: 24 Group: Die Hard Member #23,535 Joined: January 25, 2016	1. MCW 2. WWG 3. Marshall 4. Worthington 5. River Valley 6. New Ulm 7. RRC 8. Monte 9. RCW 10. Luverne 11. MCC Fairmont and Tracy don't lose anyone significant from there line-up if they can stretch up again like they did this year they will be tough, edge to Fairmont with the depth down low. Marshall and Worthington both lose three starters but I think Worthington is hurt worse. River Valley and New Ulm doesn't lose much but have some holes. Wabasso loses 6 starters, not sure if they can fill the holes or not, Hindt and Bart always have a competitive team though. United loses monsters up top not sure if they can fill it out or not. Quad and Luverne lost some good seniors and Fulda is what it is i hope they can start to gain numbers and have a competitive roster again.



ironman32	Mar 10 2017, 12:19 PM Post #595
Member Posts: 24 Group: Die Hard Member #23,535 Joined: January 25, 2016	Returning section medalist by weight 106 1st Place - Jaxson Rohman of Fairmont-Martin County West, 8th 2nd Place - Hunter Baker of Luverne, 8th 3rd Place - Erik Artiga of Worthington, 10th 4th Place - Mason Irlbeck of Wabasso-Red Rock Central, 8th 5th Place - Ayden Horner of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 7th 6th Place - Jackson Bode of New Ulm, 9th 113 1st Place - Hsa La Eh of Marshall, 9th 2nd Place - Danny Blankenship of Fulda-Murray County Central, 10th 3rd Place - Cale Steuber of Fairmont-Martin County West, 9th 4th Place - Maverick Goblirsch of Redwood-River Valley, 7th 5th Place - Jaiden Jimenez of Quad County, 9th 6th Place - Carter Brandes of New Ulm, 9th 120 1st Place - Jacob Prunty of Worthington, 11th 2nd Place - Dereck Ellingson of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 10th 3rd Place - Jordan Wolter of Fairmont-Martin County West, 10th 4th Place - Trevon Johnson of Dawson-Boyd-Lac Qui Parle-Montevideo, 8th 5th Place - Cole Ranweiler of New Ulm, 8th 6th Place - Noah Jensen of Marshall, 9th 126 1st Place - Zac Ringnell of Fairmont-Martin County West, 10th 3rd Place - Tucker Oeltjenbruns of Luverne, 11th 5th Place - Lay K Paw of Worthington, 10th 6th Place - Lucas Hodges of Marshall, 10th 132 1st Place - Sean Howk of New Ulm, 10th 2nd Place - Payton Anderson of Fairmont-Martin County West, 9th 4th Place - Tayte Harazin of Redwood-River Valley, 10th 138 1st Place - Hunter Ranweiler of New Ulm, 11th 3rd Place - Anthony Axford of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 10th 4th Place - Ethan Pavelko of Worthington, 11th 5th Place - Zach Stahl of Marshall, 10th 6th Place - Nathan Simmonds of Fairmont-Martin County West, 9th 145 2nd Place - Jared Schroepfer of Wabasso-Red Rock Central, 10th 3rd Place - Mario Maldonado of Fairmont-Martin County West, 10th 4th Place - Eric Bommersbach of Redwood-River Valley, 11th 6th Place - Brayden Donkersloot of Worthington, 10th 152 1st Place - Peyton Mortenson of Dawson-Boyd-Lac Qui Parle-Montevideo, 11th 2nd Place - Tanner Stark of New Ulm, 11th 5th Place - Miles Fitzgerald of Fairmont-Martin County West, 9th 6th Place - Trevor Eisfeld of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 9th 160 1st Place - Collin Steuber of Fairmont-Martin County West, 11th 3rd Place - Nash Mayer of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 11th 5th Place - Jackson Hughes of Marshall, 10th 6th Place - Jacob Neuberger of Worthington, 10th 170 2nd Place - Nick Altermatt of Wabasso-Red Rock Central, 11th 3rd Place - Mason Byrne of Worthington, 11th 4th Place - Jace Paplow of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 9th 6th Place - Tristan Lange of Fairmont-Martin County West, 10th 182 3rd Place - Austin Schmitt of Dawson-Boyd-Lac Qui Parle-Montevideo, 11th 4th Place - Zack Felcyn of Marshall, 10th 5th Place - Tyler Timm of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 9th 6th Place - Conner Tordsen of Fairmont-Martin County West, 11th 195 3rd Place - Wyatt Martin of Marshall, 11th 5th Place - Quintin Lehmann of Dawson-Boyd-Lac Qui Parle-Montevideo, 10th 6th Place - Austin Buchholz of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 11th 220 2nd Place - Zach Luke of Luverne, 10th 3rd Place - Jaiden Bahr of Marshall, 9th 4th Place - Marcos Herrera of Worthington, 11th 5th Place - Chad Maddock of Redwood-River Valley, 9th 6th Place - Colby Wenniger of New Ulm, 9th 285 5th Place - Sam Bauer of Tracy-Milroy-Balaton-Westbrook-Walnut Grove, 10th 6th Place - Brendan Otto of Marshall, 11th Edited by ironman32, Mar 14 2017, 11:55 AM.



ironman32	Mar 10 2017, 12:43 PM Post #596
Member Posts: 24 Group: Die Hard Member #23,535 Joined: January 25, 2016	By team Fairmont/MCW - 11 106 1st Place - Jaxson Rohman, 8th 113 3rd Place - Cale Steuber, 9th 120 3rd Place - Jordan Wolter, 10th 126 1st Place - Zac Ringnell, 10th 132 2nd Place - Payton Anderson, 9th 138 6th Place - Nathan Simmonds, 9th 145 3rd Place - Mario Maldonado, 10th 152 5th Place - Miles Fitzgerald, 9th 160 1st Place - Collin Steuber, 11th 170 6th Place - Tristan Lange, 10th 182 6th Place - Conner Tordsen, 11th Fulda/MCC - 1 113 2nd Place - Danny Blankenship, 10th Luverne - 3 106 2nd Place - Hunter Baker, 8th 126 3rd Place - Tucker Oeltjenbruns, 11th 220 2nd Place - Zach Luke, 10th Marshall - 9 113 1st Place - Hsa La Eh, 9th 120 6th Place - Noah Jensen, 9th 126 6th Place - Lucas Hodges, 10th 138 5th Place - Zach Stahl, 10th 160 5th Place - Jackson Hughes, 10th 182 4th Place - Zack Felcyn, 10th 195 3rd Place - Wyatt Martin, 11th 220 3rd Place - Jaiden Bahr, 9th 285 6th Place - Brendan Otto, 11th New Ulm - 7 106 6th Place - Jackson Bode, 9th 113 6th Place - Carter Brandes, 9th 120 5th Place - Cole Ranweiler, 8th 132 1st Place - Sean Howk, 10th 138 1st Place - Hunter Ranweiler, 11th 152 2nd Place - Tanner Stark, 11th 220 6th Place - Colby Wenniger, 9th Quad - 1 113 5th Place - Jaiden Jimenez, 9th Redwood River Valley - 4 113 4th Place - Maverick Goblirsch, 7th 132 4th Place - Tayte Harazin, 10th 145 4th Place - Eric Bommersbach, 11th 220 5th Place - Chad Maddock, 9th TMB/WWG - 9 106 5th Place - Ayden Horner, 7th 120 2nd Place - Dereck Ellingson, 10th 138 3rd Place - Anthony Axford, 10th 152 6th Place - Trevor Eisfeld, 9th 160 3rd Place - Nash Mayer, 11th 170 4th Place - Jace Paplow, 9th 182 5th Place - Tyler Timm, 9th 195 6th Place - Austin Buchholz, 11th 285 5th Place - Sam Bauer, 10th United - 4 120 4th Place - Trevon Johnson, 8th 152 1st Place - Peyton Mortenson, 11th 182 3rd Place - Austin Schmitt, 11th 195 5th Place - Quintin Lehmann, 10th Wabasso/RRC - 3 106 4th Place - Mason Irlbeck, 8th 145 2nd Place - Jared Schroepfer, 10th 170 2nd Place - Nick Altermatt, 11th Worthington - 8 106 3rd Place - Erik Artiga, 10th 120 1st Place - Jacob Prunty, 11th 126 5th Place - Lay K Paw, 10th 138 4th Place - Ethan Pavelko, 11th 145 6th Place - Brayden Donkersloot, 10th 160 6th Place - Jacob Neuberger, 10th 170 3rd Place - Mason Byrne, 11th 220 4th Place - Marcos Herrera, 11th Edited by ironman32, Mar 14 2017, 11:55 AM.



Gator-Roll	Mar 12 2017, 12:14 AM Post #597
Super Fan Posts: 213 Group: Die Hard Member #23,892 Joined: November 8, 2016	ironman32 Mar 10 2017, 12:43 PM By team Fairmont/MCW - 11 106 1st Place - Jaxson Rohman, 8th 113 3rd Place - Cale Steuber, 9th 120 3rd Place - Jordan Wolter, 10th 126 1st Place - Zac Ringnell, 10th 132 2nd Place - Payton Anderson, 10th 138 6th Place - Nathan Simmonds, 9th 145 3rd Place - Mario Maldonado, 10th 152 5th Place - Miles Fitzgerald, 9th 160 1st Place - Collin Steuber, 11th 170 6th Place - Tristan Lange, 10th 182 6th Place - Conner Tordsen, 11th Fulda/MCC - 1 113 2nd Place - Danny Blankenship, 10th Luverne - 3 106 2nd Place - Hunter Baker, 8th 126 3rd Place - Tucker Oeltjenbruns, 11th 220 2nd Place - Zach Luke, 10th Marshall - 9 113 1st Place - Hsa La Eh, 9th 120 6th Place - Noah Jensen, 9th 126 6th Place - Lucas Hodges, 10th 138 5th Place - Zach Stahl, 10th 160 5th Place - Jackson Hughes, 10th 182 4th Place - Zack Felcyn, 10th 195 3rd Place - Wyatt Martin, 11th 220 3rd Place - Jaiden Bahr, 9th 285 6th Place - Brendan Otto, 11th New Ulm - 7 106 6th Place - Jackson Bode, 9th 113 6th Place - Carter Brandes, 9th 120 5th Place - Cole Ranweiler, 8th 132 1st Place - Sean Howk, 10th 138 1st Place - Hunter Ranweiler, 11th 152 2nd Place - Tanner Stark, 11th 220 6th Place - Colby Wenniger, 9th Quad - 1 113 5th Place - Jaiden Jimenez, 9th Redwood River Valley - 4 113 4th Place - Maverick Goblirsch, 7th 132 4th Place - Tayte Harazin, 10th 145 4th Place - Eric Bommersbach, 11th 220 5th Place - Chad Maddock, 9th TMB/WWG - 9 106 5th Place - Ayden Horner, 7th 120 2nd Place - Dereck Ellingson, 10th 138 3rd Place - Anthony Axford, 10th 152 6th Place - Trevor Eisfeld, 9th 160 3rd Place - Nash Mayer, 10th 170 4th Place - Jace Paplow, 9th 182 5th Place - Tyler Timm, 9th 195 6th Place - Austin Buchholz, 11th 285 5th Place - Sam Bauer, 10th United - 4 120 4th Place - Trevon Johnson, 8th 152 1st Place - Peyton Mortenson, 11th 182 3rd Place - Austin Schmitt, 11th 195 5th Place - Quintin Lehmann, 10th Wabasso/RRC - 3 106 4th Place - Mason Irlbeck, 8th 145 2nd Place - Jared Schroepfer, 10th 170 2nd Place - Nick Altermatt, 11th Worthington - 8 106 3rd Place - Erik Artiga, 10th 120 1st Place - Jacob Prunty, 11th 126 5th Place - Lay K Paw, 10th 138 4th Place - Ethan Pavelko, 11th 145 6th Place - Brayden Donkersloot, 10th 160 6th Place - Jacob Neuberger, 10th 170 3rd Place - Mason Byrne, 11th 220 4th Place - Marcos Herrera, 11th I believe Payton anderson is a freshmen not a sophmore



kodiak_vs	Mar 12 2017, 02:56 AM Post #598
Super Fan Posts: 107 Group: Die Hard Member #1,815 Joined: February 6, 2005	Weakest section in the state. Need to restructure this one.



grappler6	Mar 12 2017, 08:36 AM Post #599
Fantastic Posts: 8,470 Group: Die Hard Member #241 Joined: December 25, 2004	kodiak_vs Mar 12 2017, 02:56 AM Weakest section in the state. Need to restructure this one. Sections are based off of geographic location, not off of your desire for competitiveness. We apologize that our geographic representation of southwest MN doesn't impress you. This section already covers the second (8AA being the largest) largest area. In its current landscape, how do you suggest this section be restructured?



DWB79	Mar 12 2017, 01:23 PM Post #600
Fantastic Posts: 6,362 Group: Fantastic Member #1,057 Joined: January 16, 2005	grappler6 Mar 12 2017, 08:36 AM kodiak_vs Mar 12 2017, 02:56 AM Weakest section in the state. Need to restructure this one. Sections are based off of geographic location, not off of your desire for competitiveness. We apologize that our geographic representation of southwest MN doesn't impress you. This section already covers the second (8AA being the largest) largest area. In its current landscape, how do you suggest this section be restructured? I personally would like to see it go back to 2 classes and probably get closer to a 16 team section...



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