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Section 3AA; How we looking?
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ZZWORTH	Mar 28 2017, 01:32 PM Post #631
Wrestling Fan Posts: 86 Group: Die Hard Member #24,054 Joined: January 24, 2017	OKAY, WINNER 09, I will hold you to that. I say Fairmont/mcw, Worthington, and marshall are the only teams that have more wins that losses in duals next year? Im just stating my opinion



Gator-Roll	Mar 29 2017, 10:02 AM Post #632
Super Fan Posts: 213 Group: Die Hard Member #23,892 Joined: November 8, 2016	shoot_to_thrill Mar 27 2017, 06:06 AM What does New London Spicer bring to the table? Might have so.e young guys coming up too, but this is from section 5a results. They graduate a few and must have had a few forfeits too. Here are their returners who wrestled sections. 106 Vagle 9th state placer 120 Vosika 8th 5th sections 126 Stageberg 10th 4th in sections 138 thein 11th 3rd sections 152 barrett 9th dnp 195 bitzan 10th 5th sections You have records on them?



shoot_to_thrill	Mar 30 2017, 09:57 AM Post #633
Super Fan Posts: 321 Group: Die Hard Member #18,845 Joined: May 17, 2011	New London Spicer Returning section wrestlers and records according to section results. 106-Vagle-33-4 120-Vosica-20-19 126-Stageberg-29-8 132-Barthel-14-14 138-Thein-23-11 152-Barret-20-16 195-Bitzan-15-20 - - - - Mahaca is back too. Here's their returners and results from this year's section 8aa tournament. No state qualifiers returning, but looks like a young up and coming group. 106-lebrija 15-7 7th dnp 113-rose 14-10 9th dnp 120-travis 9-19 10th dnp 132-joos 10-18 9th dnp 152-cardwell 21-16 10th dnp 182-mcneill 27-13 10th dnp 195-laine 12-20 11th dnp 220-wevley 21-11 11th dnp



The_Shoot	Mar 31 2017, 07:47 AM Post #634
Destruction Posts: 270 Group: Die Hard Member #16,688 Joined: January 14, 2010	winner09 Mar 28 2017, 10:25 AM SuperDuck2 Mar 28 2017, 09:24 AM thunderchicken Mar 28 2017, 08:40 AM Any idea of where team sections will be now that TMB/WWG left? Marshall has nice facilities, hotels and restaurants, maybe as close to center of section as it gets. That's a good idea. Do they have enough bleacher space and mat space to have 3 or 4 mats? SMSU had the captain Dan invite there and it was pretty tight with 4 on the floor.



The_Shoot	Mar 31 2017, 07:47 AM Post #635
Destruction Posts: 270 Group: Die Hard Member #16,688 Joined: January 14, 2010	The_Shoot Mar 31 2017, 07:47 AM winner09 Mar 28 2017, 10:25 AM SuperDuck2 Mar 28 2017, 09:24 AM thunderchicken Mar 28 2017, 08:40 AM Any idea of where team sections will be now that TMB/WWG left? Marshall has nice facilities, hotels and restaurants, maybe as close to center of section as it gets. That's a good idea. Do they have enough bleacher space and mat space to have 3 or 4 mats? SMSU had the captain Dan invite there and it was pretty tight with 4 on the floor. i think the one-sidedness would be awesome atmosphere for the team finals though.



shoot_to_thrill	Apr 5 2017, 08:43 PM Post #636
Super Fan Posts: 321 Group: Die Hard Member #18,845 Joined: May 17, 2011	Should our section go to a one day team tournament? Next question is where and how? Tracy was to host next year's final four. Obviously not now. Thoughts? One day? Two day? Where? Edited by shoot_to_thrill, Apr 5 2017, 08:51 PM.



ZZWORTH	Apr 5 2017, 10:09 PM Post #637
Wrestling Fan Posts: 86 Group: Die Hard Member #24,054 Joined: January 24, 2017	One day individual in worthington, or dawson?



bunnymama	Apr 6 2017, 09:11 AM Post #638
Wrestling Fan Posts: 54 Group: Die Hard Member #21,687 Joined: January 12, 2014	ZZWORTH Apr 5 2017, 10:09 PM One day individual in worthington, or dawson? Worthington has hosted several times I believe. The venue is not fan friendly. Sitting in the upper deck does not provide a very good view for parents and fans to watch the wrestlers. The railing makes it difficult to view the floor and all the mats unless you are near the top of the bleachers. And that is not always the best. Due to the limited lower level seating, Once the bleachers are pulled out, a mad rush begins by fans to secure a place to sit. Dawson has seating that is optimal and fan friendly. There is not a bad seat in the place. Luverne, Morris, New Ulm or New London would be also great selections. Unfortunately, I am not able to make an indication about Fairmont as I have not seen the facility. And as far as a one-day tournament is concerned, that is a numbers game. Prior to making the recommendation or determination, the section would have to project individual match count for wrestlers that day. I realize crucifixion is next, but when you ask a question and want a response, don't get grumpy/nasty when the answer is not to your liking.



SuperDuck2	Apr 6 2017, 09:12 AM Post #639
Super Fan Posts: 154 Group: Die Hard Member #24,122 Joined: February 15, 2017	1 day, Marshall



winner09	Apr 6 2017, 09:17 AM Post #640
Super Fan Posts: 200 Group: Die Hard Member #3,811 Joined: November 27, 2005	It also takes in account people that want to actually run the tournament. Some AD's chose to not take on the responsibility.



ZZWORTH	Apr 6 2017, 11:56 AM Post #641
Wrestling Fan Posts: 86 Group: Die Hard Member #24,054 Joined: January 24, 2017	I THINK It should be in one day. save every fan/coach/bus driver/wrestler all the time and money and just make it all one day. everybody weighs in once, at 730 am, wrestling starts at 9:00 am in dawson or Worthington? Have it voted on by the coaches? And the mshsl will give a one day allowance for match count (in which with so less teams and so many teams with forfeits, I highly doubt we would run into this, just in the true second matches). Makes it easier and more clearer for the casual fan, and clears up no confusion. Go Worthington go



MAHACA Mamma	Apr 6 2017, 01:46 PM Post #642
Super Fan Posts: 197 Group: Die Hard Member #23,897 Joined: November 14, 2016	I would vote for Dawson.



3DoubleA	Apr 6 2017, 08:24 PM Post #643
Wrestling Fan Posts: 35 Group: Die Hard Member #24,002 Joined: January 8, 2017	SuperDuck2 Apr 6 2017, 09:12 AM 1 day, Marshall central



MAHACA Mamma	Apr 7 2017, 11:08 AM Post #644
Super Fan Posts: 197 Group: Die Hard Member #23,897 Joined: November 14, 2016	It would be nice if Marshal had a gym that was fan friendly to wrestling. They are the best choice of a "town". Maybe it could be at the college? I don't remember what the college gym is like. Too bad Dawson doesn't have more parking, I like their gym. Morris has a nice gym, but they are not centrally located.



SuperDuck2	Apr 7 2017, 11:32 AM Post #645
Super Fan Posts: 154 Group: Die Hard Member #24,122 Joined: February 15, 2017	Not many food options in Dawson Long way for Fairmont folks



thunderchicken	Apr 7 2017, 11:57 AM Post #646
Super Fan Posts: 231 Group: Die Hard Member #18,549 Joined: February 23, 2011	Not many hotel options in Dawson for the traveling teams



ZZWORTH	Apr 7 2017, 12:49 PM Post #647
Wrestling Fan Posts: 86 Group: Die Hard Member #24,054 Joined: January 24, 2017	DAWSON is a good centralized location. And look no matter where the venue is at, you are still going to have teams travel 2+ hours no matter who hosts it. If I remember right they use to host the final 4 team 12-15 years ago, and it was a great venue, and they have done a great job of hosting the individual tournament in years past as well. They would be second on my list, besides Worthington. Or have it like some NCAA teams do. whoever wins the section in the previous year, gets to host the individuals the following year. Just a thought. Go Worthington go



shoot_to_thrill	Apr 7 2017, 01:58 PM Post #648
Super Fan Posts: 321 Group: Die Hard Member #18,845 Joined: May 17, 2011	Dawson is a poor choice because of hotels. Lack of hotels. It is not anything close to convenient when you still have to stay 20 minutes away from the site. They have the gym, but zero accommodations for teams. Redwood is actually the best, sort of central location because they have the gym, hotels, restaurants and other accommodations that make them better than most. I know, they get to host a lot of events, but for ease of the tournament, they are the best venue.



shoot_to_thrill	Apr 7 2017, 02:03 PM Post #649
Super Fan Posts: 321 Group: Die Hard Member #18,845 Joined: May 17, 2011	ZZWORTH Apr 7 2017, 12:49 PM DAWSON is a good centralized location. And look no matter where the venue is at, you are still going to have teams travel 2+ hours no matter who hosts it. If I remember right they use to host the final 4 team 12-15 years ago, and it was a great venue, and they have done a great job of hosting the individual tournament in years past as well. They would be second on my list, besides Worthington. Or have it like some NCAA teams do. whoever wins the section in the previous year, gets to host the individuals the following year. Just a thought. Go Worthington go You are crazy to think Dawson is anywhere central. Poor choice for location and accommodations. The gym is cool, and they do a decent job that's about it.



MAHACA Mamma	Apr 7 2017, 02:35 PM Post #650
Super Fan Posts: 197 Group: Die Hard Member #23,897 Joined: November 14, 2016	Why do you need hotels for a one day tournament?



thunderchicken	Apr 7 2017, 04:00 PM Post #651
Super Fan Posts: 231 Group: Die Hard Member #18,549 Joined: February 23, 2011	MAHACA Mamma Apr 7 2017, 02:35 PM Why do you need hotels for a one day tournament? Guessing skin checks and weigh ins are somewhere around 7-8am. Add in a 2-3 hour drive. I'm guessing a team wouldn't want to leave at 4am for sections. Only effects a few teams but those teams still have 0 options for hotels in Dawson. I wouldn't mind seeing Fairmont or New Ulm get it for something different instead of always being in Dawson or Redwood.



RowdyRoddy	Apr 7 2017, 04:11 PM Post #652
Super Fan Posts: 100 Group: Die Hard Member #24,268 Joined: April 5, 2017	shoot_to_thrill Apr 7 2017, 02:03 PM ZZWORTH Apr 7 2017, 12:49 PM DAWSON is a good centralized location. And look no matter where the venue is at, you are still going to have teams travel 2+ hours no matter who hosts it. If I remember right they use to host the final 4 team 12-15 years ago, and it was a great venue, and they have done a great job of hosting the individual tournament in years past as well. They would be second on my list, besides Worthington. Or have it like some NCAA teams do. whoever wins the section in the previous year, gets to host the individuals the following year. Just a thought. Go Worthington go You are crazy to think Dawson is anywhere central. Poor choice for location and accommodations. The gym is cool, and they do a decent job that's about it. Adam how about Fairmont? It isn't central but you guys would have the other accommodations needed. Have you guys ever put in for 3AA or hosted in 2AA? A good point was brought up regarding need for hotels for a one day tournament. I suppose some clubs could like to save their kids some road time if possible.



3DoubleA	Apr 7 2017, 07:43 PM Post #653
Wrestling Fan Posts: 35 Group: Die Hard Member #24,002 Joined: January 8, 2017	There will be many teams wanting a hotel for the night before a one day tournament



DWB79	Apr 9 2017, 12:50 AM Post #654
Fantastic Posts: 6,362 Group: Fantastic Member #1,057 Joined: January 16, 2005	RowdyRoddy Apr 7 2017, 04:11 PM shoot_to_thrill Apr 7 2017, 02:03 PM ZZWORTH Apr 7 2017, 12:49 PM DAWSON is a good centralized location. And look no matter where the venue is at, you are still going to have teams travel 2+ hours no matter who hosts it. If I remember right they use to host the final 4 team 12-15 years ago, and it was a great venue, and they have done a great job of hosting the individual tournament in years past as well. They would be second on my list, besides Worthington. Or have it like some NCAA teams do. whoever wins the section in the previous year, gets to host the individuals the following year. Just a thought. Go Worthington go You are crazy to think Dawson is anywhere central. Poor choice for location and accommodations. The gym is cool, and they do a decent job that's about it. Adam how about Fairmont? It isn't central but you guys would have the other accommodations needed. Have you guys ever put in for 3AA or hosted in 2AA? A good point was brought up regarding need for hotels for a one day tournament. I suppose some clubs could like to save their kids some road time if possible. They hosted in the late 90's in 2AAA



SuperDuck2	Apr 9 2017, 10:37 AM Post #655
Super Fan Posts: 154 Group: Die Hard Member #24,122 Joined: February 15, 2017	Fairmont has a unique gym as you come in you go down the bleachers from the top. Very cool! Back in Region 2A days, we wrestled a couple times in Sherburn. 3 mats with circles just inside the end walls. Like at St James. Got a little rough going out of bounds. At Jackson, got to wrestle in OLD high school once, gym floor was stage for auditorium. 2 decks of people on North and bleachers to south. Some of those small gyms were the best!



ZZWORTH	Apr 10 2017, 08:45 AM Post #656
Wrestling Fan Posts: 86 Group: Die Hard Member #24,054 Joined: January 24, 2017	News flash. No matter what town the sections are going to be held at, someone is going to have to drive 2+ hours. Or else have weigh ins at 8, skin checks at 8:30, and wrestling start at 9. If you think about it, if almost all classes will have 8 man brackets or less, there will be a lot less matches overall, and with not many breaks in the action. wrestling could be all said and done around 6-7pm



winner09	Apr 10 2017, 11:03 AM Post #657
Super Fan Posts: 200 Group: Die Hard Member #3,811 Joined: November 27, 2005	ZZWORTH Apr 10 2017, 08:45 AM News flash. No matter what town the sections are going to be held at, someone is going to have to drive 2+ hours. Or else have weigh ins at 8, skin checks at 8:30, and wrestling start at 9. If you think about it, if almost all classes will have 8 man brackets or less, there will be a lot less matches overall, and with not many breaks in the action. wrestling could be all said and done around 6-7pm Have to follow the MSHSL guidelines on start times and wait times. Not as simple as you think. Can't make it like a regular tournament.



CoachWilliamson	Apr 14 2017, 11:49 AM Post #658
Member Posts: 11 Group: Member Member #24,275 Joined: April 14, 2017	SuperDuck2 Apr 9 2017, 10:37 AM Fairmont has a unique gym as you come in you go down the bleachers from the top. Very cool! Back in Region 2A days, we wrestled a couple times in Sherburn. 3 mats with circles just inside the end walls. Like at St James. Got a little rough going out of bounds. At Jackson, got to wrestle in OLD high school once, gym floor was stage for auditorium. 2 decks of people on North and bleachers to south. Some of those small gyms were the best! We would love to do it in Fairmont. The problem is, It's built for basketball. There's room for three courts wide but not three mats end to end. We could do 4 mats, but then only have one side of the bleachers down since you have to walk down into the gym when you come in. I don't believe it is enough seating and I don't want it to be a sore spot for people. When we could go down to 2 mats it would be great because with both bleachers out and two mats, it is a rocking gym with great seating. It's great gym for team and we're trying for that, just not big enough for a big individual tournament.



always owl	Apr 16 2017, 06:57 AM Post #659
Super Fan Posts: 164 Group: Die Hard Member #22,527 Joined: November 21, 2014	It's good to be back in 3AA. I have not been in all of the southern school gyms, but of the northern half, Redwood Falls is the logical choice. Not as much hotel and restaurant choices as Marshall, but a much better Gym. New London and Morris are close seconds. Plenty of eating and hotel space, and nice gyms, but at the outside of the section borders. As I look into 3AA again, don't count out MAHACA. I believe we will finish at or above .500 again next year. We should be able to beat United and New London again as we did this year. My initial thought was a 6 seed, but the more I research into it, I believe we could go as high as 4, possibly 3 seed. (three would be a stretch)



shoot_to_thrill	Apr 16 2017, 08:56 PM Post #660
Super Fan Posts: 321 Group: Die Hard Member #18,845 Joined: May 17, 2011	Too early to tell. Good luck to everyone in their spring seasons, offseason and summer. Time to train, lift, go to camps, and improve. Champions are not made just during the season.



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