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SDSU 2017-2018; How will they do?
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What about Nahshon Garrett as a member of the staff? Might be hard to recruit him to Brookings, but has ties to Hahn and could be lured about the chance to work with Seth Gross everyday.

Any chance he keeps Caldwell on the staff? Or does Cody's tenure end after 1 season?
Don’t know much about Caldwell as a coach so don’t take this as a negative judgement towards him but I remember the dialogue when he was hired was his ability to recruit Iowa. Iowa isn’t producing enough elite recruits these days.

With the hire of Hahn, the message is clear that just recruiting the 5 state area is no longer a limitation. Guessing Hahn goes with a fresh staff.
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Does it seem like this process is taking too long?
Yes, but it will be worth the wait.
Congrats, Hahn will be a great coach and mentor for Alex. While most of us Gopher fans would have loved to have seen Alex and Peyton in maroon and gold, I'm happy they get a good guy like Hahn to continue what Bono started. Best of luck!
Thank you, we are all very excited with Hahn being named the new head coach.
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Thats an upgrade!!!! Congrats to the rabbits landing Hahn.
I was thinking the same thing, go Jacks!
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What about Nahshon Garrett as a member of the staff? Might be hard to recruit him to Brookings, but has ties to Hahn and could be lured about the chance to work with Seth Gross everyday.

Any chance he keeps Caldwell on the staff? Or does Cody's tenure end after 1 season?
Don’t know much about Caldwell as a coach so don’t take this as a negative judgement towards him but I remember the dialogue when he was hired was his ability to recruit Iowa. Iowa isn’t producing enough elite recruits these days.

With the hire of Hahn, the message is clear that just recruiting the 5 state area is no longer a limitation. Guessing Hahn goes with a fresh staff.
To be fair, SDSU has had a ton more success recruiting mid-tier Midwestern kids than top-tier east-coasters. Example Anthony Cefolo vs ZBerg. Obviously just one example.

I think Hahn is going to give us a huge advantage on recruiting in Minnesota. Eggum and crew are doing the best they can, but the energy has been sucked out of that UMN program. I say this as someone who had my baby pictures taken in a gophers shirt.

If I was a stud MN high schooler with the option of a stale UMN team led by Eggum or an upstart SDSU team led by Hahn, I would pack my bags and head west.
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I know nothing about this area or college. What's it like out there?

Am I wrong in thinking who the Heck would want to spend 4 to 5 years of their life in South Dakota? I spent one day at my grandpas in South Dakota and never went back 😂
I went to SDSU for two years and really enjoyed it. Nice community. It's a typical college campus in a typical college town... which is to say it's a blast! Hahn will find plenty to do
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What about Nahshon Garrett as a member of the staff? Might be hard to recruit him to Brookings, but has ties to Hahn and could be lured about the chance to work with Seth Gross everyday.

Any chance he keeps Caldwell on the staff? Or does Cody's tenure end after 1 season?
Don’t know much about Caldwell as a coach so don’t take this as a negative judgement towards him but I remember the dialogue when he was hired was his ability to recruit Iowa. Iowa isn’t producing enough elite recruits these days.

With the hire of Hahn, the message is clear that just recruiting the 5 state area is no longer a limitation. Guessing Hahn goes with a fresh staff.
To be fair, SDSU has had a ton more success recruiting mid-tier Midwestern kids than top-tier east-coasters. Example Anthony Cefolo vs ZBerg. Obviously just one example.

I think Hahn is going to give us a huge advantage on recruiting in Minnesota. Eggum and crew are doing the best they can, but the energy has been sucked out of that UMN program. I say this as someone who had my baby pictures taken in a gophers shirt.

If I was a stud MN high schooler with the option of a stale UMN team led by Eggum or an upstart SDSU team led by Hahn, I would pack my bags and head west.
Spoken like a true unbiased SDSU alum. :huh:
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Apr 9 2018, 07:31 PM
What about Nahshon Garrett as a member of the staff? Might be hard to recruit him to Brookings, but has ties to Hahn and could be lured about the chance to work with Seth Gross everyday.

Any chance he keeps Caldwell on the staff? Or does Cody's tenure end after 1 season?
Don’t know much about Caldwell as a coach so don’t take this as a negative judgement towards him but I remember the dialogue when he was hired was his ability to recruit Iowa. Iowa isn’t producing enough elite recruits these days.

With the hire of Hahn, the message is clear that just recruiting the 5 state area is no longer a limitation. Guessing Hahn goes with a fresh staff.
To be fair, SDSU has had a ton more success recruiting mid-tier Midwestern kids than top-tier east-coasters. Example Anthony Cefolo vs ZBerg. Obviously just one example.

I think Hahn is going to give us a huge advantage on recruiting in Minnesota. Eggum and crew are doing the best they can, but the energy has been sucked out of that UMN program. I say this as someone who had my baby pictures taken in a gophers shirt.

If I was a stud MN high schooler with the option of a stale UMN team led by Eggum or an upstart SDSU team led by Hahn, I would pack my bags and head west.
Spoken like a true unbiased SDSU alum. :huh:
When I was a senior in high school I did everything in this post.
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Apr 9 2018, 07:31 PM
What about Nahshon Garrett as a member of the staff? Might be hard to recruit him to Brookings, but has ties to Hahn and could be lured about the chance to work with Seth Gross everyday.

Any chance he keeps Caldwell on the staff? Or does Cody's tenure end after 1 season?
Don’t know much about Caldwell as a coach so don’t take this as a negative judgement towards him but I remember the dialogue when he was hired was his ability to recruit Iowa. Iowa isn’t producing enough elite recruits these days.

With the hire of Hahn, the message is clear that just recruiting the 5 state area is no longer a limitation. Guessing Hahn goes with a fresh staff.
To be fair, SDSU has had a ton more success recruiting mid-tier Midwestern kids than top-tier east-coasters. Example Anthony Cefolo vs ZBerg. Obviously just one example.

I think Hahn is going to give us a huge advantage on recruiting in Minnesota. Eggum and crew are doing the best they can, but the energy has been sucked out of that UMN program. I say this as someone who had my baby pictures taken in a gophers shirt.

If I was a stud MN high schooler with the option of a stale UMN team led by Eggum or an upstart SDSU team led by Hahn, I would pack my bags and head west.
Good luck with that.
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Apr 9 2018, 07:31 PM
What about Nahshon Garrett as a member of the staff? Might be hard to recruit him to Brookings, but has ties to Hahn and could be lured about the chance to work with Seth Gross everyday.

Any chance he keeps Caldwell on the staff? Or does Cody's tenure end after 1 season?
Don’t know much about Caldwell as a coach so don’t take this as a negative judgement towards him but I remember the dialogue when he was hired was his ability to recruit Iowa. Iowa isn’t producing enough elite recruits these days.

With the hire of Hahn, the message is clear that just recruiting the 5 state area is no longer a limitation. Guessing Hahn goes with a fresh staff.
To be fair, SDSU has had a ton more success recruiting mid-tier Midwestern kids than top-tier east-coasters. Example Anthony Cefolo vs ZBerg. Obviously just one example.

I think Hahn is going to give us a huge advantage on recruiting in Minnesota. Eggum and crew are doing the best they can, but the energy has been sucked out of that UMN program. I say this as someone who had my baby pictures taken in a gophers shirt.

If I was a stud MN high schooler with the option of a stale UMN team led by Eggum or an upstart SDSU team led by Hahn, I would pack my bags and head west.
Dang, that stale program just had the best recruiting class in the nation (arguably best in school history) and are getting a $2.6 million workout facility rehab.
We'll see what Hahn can do and I wish SDSU the best.
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Not sure if MN and SDSU are on each others schedule but how does a dual shake out between the two for next season?

125- Brown(does he follow Bono?) vs Petry/Polakowski/Mckee Petry won 8-6 last season. MN 3-0

133-Gross(does he move up?) vs Lizak. Gross Dec/Maj 3-4

141-Polmeyer vs McKee. Mckee dec 6-4

149-Carlson? Vs Thorn. Thorn dec 9-4

157-Peterson? Vs Bleise. MN dec 12-4

165-Carlson vs Allar. Curious how this one would play out. Carlson battled Wanzek. Allar was injured so not a great gauge at this point. I do think Allar wins though. 15-4

174- Vaofi(lost to O’Reilly) vs Krone. Krone MD. 19-4

184- Mueller vs Webster. Webster dec. 22-4

197-Grove?(lost to Anderson) vs Bobby/Anderson MN dec. 25-4

285-Walters? Vs Gable. MN fall. 31-4.

Not bad for a stale team with no excitement. I don’t think I was being overly homerish, but correct me if I am wrong.

SDSU graduated some talent and have some question marks. They lack depth at a few weights. Does Gross move up? Do Lloyd, Robb or O’niel go as true freshman? What weight is that Price? SDSU has a lot to be excited about but still enough to be cautious about. I wouldn’t predict a changing of the guard just yet.

Edited by grappler6, Apr 9 2018, 10:23 PM.
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The only real loser today was my local Goodwill......they were going to get A LOT of SDSU wrestling apparel donated if they had hired Morningstar. AD Justin Sell.....on behalf of a passionate alumni (and one with friends and family who have wrestled and/or been on staff at SDSU in the past), you did us proud!

That said, still love my Gophers.....the future is BRIGHT and Eggum knows his world just changed, I see him embracing and responding to the challenge from Bono and Hahn
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This was a great hire. Plain and simple. More great opportunities benefits top end wrestlers in this state. This is not about comparing SDSU with Minnesota. This is about a school that wants to continue to take another step forward and that benefits the entire wrestling community.
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Apr 9 2018, 10:13 PM
Not sure if MN and SDSU are on each others schedule but how does a dual shake out between the two for next season?

125- Brown(does he follow Bono?) vs Petry/Polakowski/Mckee Petry won 8-6 last season. MN 3-0

133-Gross(does he move up?) vs Lizak. Gross Dec/Maj 3-4

141-Polmeyer vs McKee. Mckee dec 6-4

149-Carlson? Vs Thorn. Thorn dec 9-4

157-Peterson? Vs Bleise. MN dec 12-4

165-Carlson vs Allar. Curious how this one would play out. Carlson battled Wanzek. Allar was injured so not a great gauge at this point. I do think Allar wins though. 15-4

174- Vaofi(lost to O’Reilly) vs Krone. Krone MD. 19-4

184- Mueller vs Webster. Webster dec. 22-4

197-Grove?(lost to Anderson) vs Bobby/Anderson MN dec. 25-4

285-Walters? Vs Gable. MN fall. 31-4.

Not bad for a stale team with no excitement. I don’t think I was being overly homerish, but correct me if I am wrong.

SDSU graduated some talent and have some question marks. They lack depth at a few weights. Does Gross move up? Do Lloyd, Robb or O’niel go as true freshman? What weight is that Price? SDSU has a lot to be excited about but still enough to be cautious about. I wouldn’t predict a changing of the guard just yet.

125 - if Brown sticks around we are not losing to the 2018 back up or a true freshman
133 - I’ll pick UOM because I think Gross is going up for the Olympics in 2020
141 - Gross by a major
149 - Big split match, Thorn with a tight edge but Pohlmeyer is very dangerous
157 - Bleise in a very close match with Peterson
165 - I’m picking Carlson on the way he looked against Wanzek the couple times he wrestled him
174- not sure who SDSU is going to have MD for UOM
184 - Mueller by dec over Webster
197 - I have no clue who either school is going to go with, I’ll say dec UOM based on depth
285 - if Gable goes right away, fall UOM

VERY FUN DUAL
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I'm excited to see who he brings in as assistants. He has great ties both in Minnesota and on the East coast. Gabe Dean or Kyle Dake could be on the table here. There's also a chance that one or two of Cornell's incredible incoming recruiting class decides to follow Hahn who would have done much of the recruiting. Then you also have to consider that Hahn wrestled with Jared Lawrence and for J Robinson giving him direct lines to Minnesota's top wrestler factories. This is going to be good for the Jacks, this is going to be very very good.
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Not sure if MN and SDSU are on each others schedule but how does a dual shake out between the two for next season?

125- Brown(does he follow Bono?) vs Petry/Polakowski/Mckee Petry won 8-6 last season. MN 3-0

133-Gross(does he move up?) vs Lizak. Gross Dec/Maj 3-4

141-Polmeyer vs McKee. Mckee dec 6-4

149-Carlson? Vs Thorn. Thorn dec 9-4

157-Peterson? Vs Bleise. MN dec 12-4

165-Carlson vs Allar. Curious how this one would play out. Carlson battled Wanzek. Allar was injured so not a great gauge at this point. I do think Allar wins though. 15-4

174- Vaofi(lost to O’Reilly) vs Krone. Krone MD. 19-4

184- Mueller vs Webster. Webster dec. 22-4

197-Grove?(lost to Anderson) vs Bobby/Anderson MN dec. 25-4

285-Walters? Vs Gable. MN fall. 31-4.

Not bad for a stale team with no excitement. I don’t think I was being overly homerish, but correct me if I am wrong.

SDSU graduated some talent and have some question marks. They lack depth at a few weights. Does Gross move up? Do Lloyd, Robb or O’niel go as true freshman? What weight is that Price? SDSU has a lot to be excited about but still enough to be cautious about. I wouldn’t predict a changing of the guard just yet.

125 - if Brown sticks around we are not losing to the 2018 back up or a true freshman
133 - I’ll pick UOM because I think Gross is going up for the Olympics in 2020
141 - Gross by a major
149 - Big split match, Thorn with a tight edge but Pohlmeyer is very dangerous
157 - Bleise in a very close match with Peterson
165 - I’m picking Carlson on the way he looked against Wanzek the couple times he wrestled him
174- not sure who SDSU is going to have MD for UOM
184 - Mueller by dec over Webster
197 - I have no clue who either school is going to go with, I’ll say dec UOM based on depth
285 - if Gable goes right away, fall UOM

VERY FUN DUAL
Carlson didn’t even wrestle rest of year. Looked like he got beat out by Peterson. And when he did he got beat.
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What about Nahshon Garrett as a member of the staff? Might be hard to recruit him to Brookings, but has ties to Hahn and could be lured about the chance to work with Seth Gross everyday.

Any chance he keeps Caldwell on the staff? Or does Cody's tenure end after 1 season?
Don’t know much about Caldwell as a coach so don’t take this as a negative judgement towards him but I remember the dialogue when he was hired was his ability to recruit Iowa. Iowa isn’t producing enough elite recruits these days.

With the hire of Hahn, the message is clear that just recruiting the 5 state area is no longer a limitation. Guessing Hahn goes with a fresh staff.
To be fair, SDSU has had a ton more success recruiting mid-tier Midwestern kids than top-tier east-coasters. Example Anthony Cefolo vs ZBerg. Obviously just one example.

I think Hahn is going to give us a huge advantage on recruiting in Minnesota. Eggum and crew are doing the best they can, but the energy has been sucked out of that UMN program. I say this as someone who had my baby pictures taken in a gophers shirt.

If I was a stud MN high schooler with the option of a stale UMN team led by Eggum or an upstart SDSU team led by Hahn, I would pack my bags and head west.
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What about Nahshon Garrett as a member of the staff? Might be hard to recruit him to Brookings, but has ties to Hahn and could be lured about the chance to work with Seth Gross everyday.

Any chance he keeps Caldwell on the staff? Or does Cody's tenure end after 1 season?
Don’t know much about Caldwell as a coach so don’t take this as a negative judgement towards him but I remember the dialogue when he was hired was his ability to recruit Iowa. Iowa isn’t producing enough elite recruits these days.

With the hire of Hahn, the message is clear that just recruiting the 5 state area is no longer a limitation. Guessing Hahn goes with a fresh staff.
To be fair, SDSU has had a ton more success recruiting mid-tier Midwestern kids than top-tier east-coasters. Example Anthony Cefolo vs ZBerg. Obviously just one example.

I think Hahn is going to give us a huge advantage on recruiting in Minnesota. Eggum and crew are doing the best they can, but the energy has been sucked out of that UMN program. I say this as someone who had my baby pictures taken in a gophers shirt.

If I was a stud MN high schooler with the option of a stale UMN team led by Eggum or an upstart SDSU team led by Hahn, I would pack my bags and head west.
You don't have to be a stud HS wrestler to pack your bags and head west!
Later Dude!
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Hahn said he intends to keep Cody Caldwell on staff
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It looks like Hahn is keeping Caldwell around. I'm not sure how I feel about the move, but it should bring some consistency to the transition. With Hahn and Caldwell in the room and Rotert and Macki sticking around to help out, they should be good with the upper weights, now we just need to get a little guy in. Caldwell didn't demand much in the way of money, perhaps they could finally bring in a full four-person staff. If not, they should at least be able to snag a really good top assistant. Fingers crossed for Zach Sanders or Jayson Ness (maybe Dylan comes with to round out a four-person staff).
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What is Jayson Ness doing right now? Did I hear he was coaching at Hibbing or somewhere like that?

I think he would be good to tap as the head assistant.
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Jayson is training with the MN Storm.

Not sure if he intends to coach again in the future. He was the volunteer coach for a few years before getting back into competition.
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Jayson is training with the MN Storm.

Not sure if he intends to coach again in the future. He was the volunteer coach for a few years before getting back into competition.
If I remember correctly, his plan was to take a few years away from coaching to focus on competing. I think it's a good match with Seth Gross there to roll around with and a future for him as he gets closer to his retirement from competition.
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Hahn interview on Takedown Radio, starts around 28 minute mark.

https://tv.news.theopenmat.com/takedown-radio/


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Hahn talked about bringing someone in who had a "phenomenal college career" was "a tireless worker", and "who's going to make a big splash." To me this sounds like Dake, but it could also be Dean, Ness, Meredith or someone completely different. For what it's worth, he follows Meredith on Twitter. He also mentioned want to have a four person staff and having "a couple of guys on the line." It sounds like big news is coming soon.
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Hahn talked about bringing someone in who had a "phenomenal college career" was "a tireless worker", and "who's going to make a big splash." To me this sounds like Dake, but it could also be Dean, Ness, Meredith or someone completely different. For what it's worth, he follows Meredith on Twitter. He also mentioned want to have a four person staff and having "a couple of guys on the line." It sounds like big news is coming soon.
Sounds like Simez
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http://www.mattalkonline.com/podcast/on-the-mat/south-dakota-state-head-coach-damion-hahn-otm521/

Interview with Hahn. Starts around the 25 minute mark.
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IA wrestle stated on their potentially dangerous podcast that Morningstar was offered SDSU job and that Brands gave him a pay raise to stick around Iowa.
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IA wrestle stated on their potentially dangerous podcast that Morningstar was offered SDSU job and that Brands gave him a pay raise to stick around Iowa.
While trying my best to put my anti-Iowa bias aside, I can’t imagine on resume alone that Sell would have picked M* ahead of Hahn?!? Many “in the know” types were saying it was Hahn’s job to turn down from the jump.

Maybe it’s true......between cutting Gross and retaining M*, we SDSU alumni thank you Iowa!! (There, I finally said something nice about them. I need a drink to wallow in this)
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^agree it seems odd, they did say they heard from multiple sources though so who knows.
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