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| Barzall | Jun 9 2008, 07:45 AM Post #61 |
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Anyone know how many champions MN had? Any particularly notable matches or performances? |
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| Quest41 | Jun 9 2008, 08:12 AM Post #62 |
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The Schoolboys had 6 champions in Greco and 7 champions in Freestyle, and the Cadets had the same numbers. Here is a list of the Cadet Champs. Greco: 98lbs. Hayden Zillmer 130 Dillan Ness 135 Ryan Arne 140 Steve Keogh 160 Tyler Thomas 285 Parker Betts Freestyle: 98lbs. Jordan Kingsley 130 Dylan Ness 135 Ryan Arne 140 Steve Keogh 152 Ben Cox 160 Tyler Thomas 285 Parker Betts |
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| Jay Moore JCC | Jun 9 2008, 10:15 AM Post #63 |
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[Barzall Posted on Jun 9 2008, 07:45 AM Anyone know how many champions MN had? Any particularly notable matches or performances?] Greats matches in the Cadet 140, partically Steve Keogh and Cooper Moore. |
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| trevorsmith | Jun 9 2008, 11:05 AM Post #64 |
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It's true that we could be seeing the downfall of Greco in the state of Minnesota. Too bad, since we used to be one of the top Greco states in the country. My count shows 6 or 7 Minnesota guys competing in Greco for the Olympic Team Trials this week, how many freestylers? BTW - I think it's now against the rules to actually say the word "Greco" at a Hi Flyers Practice. |
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| twigboy | Jun 9 2008, 12:33 PM Post #65 |
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Schoolboy had 7 greco champs and 5 runner ups and 7 freestyle champs and 6 runner ups. I beleive there were only 15 weights in SB (top weights didn't have anyone). Greco: 70 1st & 2nd 77 1st 84 1st 91 2nd 105 1st 112 2nd 120 2nd 128 1st 136 2nd 175 1st 190 1st Freestyle: 70 1st & 2nd 77 1st 84 2nd 91 2nd 105 1st 112 2nd 120 1st 128 1st 136 1st 144 2nd 152 2nd 190 1st I don't see to many holes in the SB duels team. The second team should also have a good showing. |
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| stmabooster | Jun 9 2008, 01:01 PM Post #66 |
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Since I run the Hi Flyers, I guess I take exception to your comment about our club. We start practice the first Tuesday of March....with Folkstyle state and nationals running through to early April, we concentrate on folkstyle and takedowns until then. That leaves us with about a month (maybe 8 practices) to get ready for freestyle state. How many different techniques can kids learn in 8 practices? When Greco state was separated from freestyle state by one week, the Hi Flyers always took that week and spent it on Greco technique. Now that week has been pulled from our schedule. So we have been hit with more folkstyle on the front end of our schedule and a week has been taken out of the back end of our schedule. As a club we are supportive of Greco and encourage all of our Cadets and Juniors to get down to Augsburg and work with Dan Chandler. |
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| Barzall | Jun 9 2008, 01:02 PM Post #67 |
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I think the MN participation was down because some of the boys had finals on Thursday - couldn't get there for weigh-ins. |
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| Barzall | Jun 9 2008, 01:04 PM Post #68 |
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....for Greco I mean. |
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| Jfjjames | Jun 9 2008, 02:32 PM Post #69 |
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This is my opinion for what it is worth I think that Greco Is still very good here but I think other states have caught up. If you look at the Duels and Fargo from year to year Minnesota has done as well as anybody Including PA. Its just like Hockey at one time Minnesota was clearly the best there still as good as anybody but others have caught up just like hockey. |
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| cadet2008 | Jun 9 2008, 03:54 PM Post #70 |
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how do they choose the starting line ups for cadet duals? For example Ben Bowar placed 4th at greco state at 171 but ended up beating the state champ at Northern Plains. Do the coaches take that into consideration? |
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| Deleted User | Jun 9 2008, 09:00 PM Post #71 |
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You are correct in that it will be a loss to Mn wrestling when Dan hangs it up, but with all the talent he has developed there will be someone willing to carry the torch. Mike Houck has been active as a coach in the past, and may willing to take over. There were these Morgan guys who had success in the past. They may have what it takes, and they have been doing their part up till now. The runt from Anoka has shown his ability to develop talent. He may be an option. That Clark kid may settle down again in Mn. He seems to care about Mn wrestling, and with a little male pattern baldness, and some back hair like a gorilla he would be a shoe in for the job. Also don't forget about the current batch of competitors. Bisek, Betts, Nielsen, Tellgren, and Dietchler.Success breds success, and I think the future looks bright. |
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| trevorsmith | Jun 9 2008, 09:08 PM Post #72 |
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Rather than taking exception to my comment, I think you are confirming what I said. |
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| wrestlingfan47 | Jun 9 2008, 09:22 PM Post #73 |
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It sounded like you were saying the Hi-Flyers shun greco, and Booster simply pointed out that is not the case and they support it and encourage their boys to do greco. Doesn't sound much like a confirmation. |
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| heavyweightdad | Jun 10 2008, 06:18 AM Post #74 |
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Hi Flyers is a top notch club and they welcome all kids. I can't say enough about them. That club is not the greco problem... There needs to be a regional site for all kids to practice GR, One North, Metro, south...currently, only Cadets and Jrs can practice GR on a regular basis. |
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| heavyweightdad | Jun 10 2008, 06:24 AM Post #75 |
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We do look rock solid 70 thru 190! Outstanding showing at NP by the Schoolboys! We were also missing some top studs at NP...had they been there, we would have done more damage. BOTH A and B teams will be tough to beat. Wondering who the 210 and 235's will be on the duals team? My guess is some kids will bump up? I can't wait to see the roster, doubt it will be posted until track wrestling demands it...mostly so other teams can't plan strategies... |
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| trevorsmith | Jun 10 2008, 07:36 AM Post #76 |
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Not true. Some local clubs, such as St. Cloud still offer Greco practice on a regular basis. If you are a Hi Flyer, then yes you would need to find somewhere else to go to practice Greco. |
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| heavyweightdad | Jun 10 2008, 07:41 AM Post #77 |
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Anywhere in the metro? St. Cloud is almost a 2 hr drive for us, just too far with gas prices the way they are... If you read my first post, I said, Central does have GR, and no one else does, that I know of, they all focus on FS. (Kids, not Cadets/Jrs) |
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| aftershock101 | Jun 10 2008, 11:06 AM Post #78 |
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We practice Greco out here about 1/8th of the time, younger kids love it. But it is very hard to go to trnys when they are on Friday nights. Work till 3-3:30 with a 2 hour drive, hard to make on consistant bases. |
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| Mat732 | Jun 10 2008, 11:19 AM Post #79 |
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Too far to drive...gas is too expensive...had to work... Sounds like you guys don't really understand Greco :) |
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| Jfjjames | Jun 10 2008, 11:38 AM Post #80 |
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Im wondering if anybody knows the School boy roster teams. Thankyou. |
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| REDANGUS | Jun 12 2008, 05:38 PM Post #81 |
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what about the novice group? seth gross, zack calson ,mark voss, nikolaus borchert, jordan Engler, these kids did great |
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| Josiahboy's_Dad | Jun 13 2008, 12:13 PM Post #82 |
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Greco's best kept secret (trying to get the word out) is Greco Sundays at Orno Middle school with Austin Enoch. He is one of the best coaches my son has ever had. They praticse every Sunday from 4-5:30. I don't necessaryily like the day, but the praticse is awesome. Austin is a Jr. National Champ, and will be a Gopher next year. Call Jeff Martin 612-600-1785. This will go through the last weekend in June. Overall it was for 10 Sunday's. BTW - The Hi-Flyers have discussed having a "Greco Monday" next year. Also, St. Francis also does a Greco Monday, which is closer to the Metro than Central. |
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| Barzall | Jun 17 2008, 08:12 AM Post #83 |
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Where in Kansas City will the Cadet duals be held? |
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| Quest41 | Jun 17 2008, 11:13 AM Post #84 |
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KCI Expo Center 11730 North Ambassador Dr. Kansas City, MO. 64153 |
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| Barzall | Jun 17 2008, 12:12 PM Post #85 |
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Thanks Quest. I couldn't find the flyer online anymore. |
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