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2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,666 Views)
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I don't know if any one can beat Scottwest! Who has a chance. What about some top individuals in each weight. Its always a wild topic this early on still its kinda fun to see what people are thinking.
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Drew Flemming whatever weight he goes.Watertown will be tough.
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Jun 23 2008, 02:33 PM
Watertown will be tough.

Could you please expand on that?
What I see is that they had a roster of around 33 give or take. 15 were seniors and 8 of them wrestled in individual sections. Thats a huge hit to recover from. I don't see it.
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Jun 23 2008, 03:26 PM
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Jun 23 2008, 02:33 PM
Watertown will be tough.

Could you please expand on that?
What I see is that they had a roster of around 33 give or take. 15 were seniors and 8 of them wrestled in individual sections. Thats a huge hit to recover from. I don't see it.

This year will be a bit of a rebuilding year for Watertown Mayer Lutheran. They do have a core group of some very solid young wrestlers, with 4 returning wrestlers who are members on this year National Duals teams.

Elesenpeter-8
Fleming-11
Standick-10
Matuska-9
White-10
Poikonen-11
T. Neaton-10
Rosdahl-12 (out most of last year due to surgury)
S. Neaton-12
Abernathy-12

But they do have some holes to fill, so give them another year to tighten them up and they should have a pretty tough team in 2009-2010.

I think Delano is going to do some damage this year, along with Scott West.

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Jun 23 2008, 03:26 PM
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Jun 23 2008, 02:33 PM
Watertown will be tough.

Could you please expand on that?
What I see is that they had a roster of around 33 give or take. 15 were seniors and 8 of them wrestled in individual sections. Thats a huge hit to recover from. I don't see it.

This year will be a bit of a rebuilding year for Watertown Mayer Lutheran. They do have a core group of some very solid young wrestlers, with 4 returning wrestlers who are members on this year National Duals teams.

Elesenpeter-8
Fleming-11
Standick-10
Matuska-9
White-10
Poikonen-11
T. Neaton-10
Rosdahl-12 (out most of last year due to surgury)
S. Neaton-12
Abernathy-12

But they do have some holes to fill, so give them another year to tighten them up and they should have a pretty tough team in 2009-2010.

I think Delano is going to do some damage this year, along with Scott West.

Hmmmm Delano, could you expand on that.
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Jun 24 2008, 08:29 AM
I think Delano is going to do some damage this year

They do have a solid line up. I believe they only lost the big guy Socher. Having said that will be returning around 9 Seniors and 9 Juniors not to forget an additional 6 or more Sophmores.

The only sent two to St. Paul last year. Will they be able to sharpen any others up this year. I will hold off on Scott west for now.
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Last year, during the team section tournament, I thought Delano was the 4th best team there, behind Scott West, Watertown and MLLC. They are not losing a lot this year (besides the big guy) and have a very solid core of eight wrestlers returning:

Seck-12th
Sowers-11th, 5th last year (very tough 119 bracket), was injured for 1/3 of season
Roth-12th
Hessing-11th, 2nd in sections, state particapant
Brasket-12th, 3rd in sections
Brasket-11th, 6th in sections
Bohler-12th, 3rd in sections
Dahl-12th, IDF in sections

They also finished second in the Wright County Conf. with a 7-1 record, 15-8 overall.
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How about Hutch. or any of the southern teams? MLLC ,St. Peter ,New Ulm do any of them have any chance. I think Delano will be very strong also I wouldn't count W/ML out. But I don't know who beats SW.
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With a few state champs graduating and a lot of other good wrestlers gone - there is a opportunity for many newbies to get their first shot at state.

How many people did Scott West Graduate - I am assuming that Goldberg is going to stick around - unless the family moves - 3 schools in 3 years. He would lose his eligibility if he transferred again.

Guessing the lower weights will be a bunch of new kids, can't see Goldberg & flemming making 103 again, and Fredrich and (watertown kid - forgot his name) will never make 112 again. 119 Levesuer is gone, wow - lot's of new young opportunities.
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How will New Prague be next year? I see they have a match with Delano in January. I saw they were looking for another team for a quad. Did they find one?
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Whats up with MLLC will they have a good team could it be the same 4 teams on top again this year but a different order SW Delano MLLC Watertown maybe put Hutch in there and will Goldberg go back to AV now that it looks like Devos is going to home (Iowa) The Great Gamma Watertown did lose 8 guys that wrestled last years team sec. only two came threw for the team in the finals so did they lose anyone who was all that important? I think just 2 they will still have to step it up big time to contend in the sec but the loses might not be that bad
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Just guessing no order of placing, names and possible weights.

103 Elsepeter, ??
112 Clobes,Braunhausen,Rydell
119 Fleming,Goldberg,Friederich,Zilverberg
125 Friederich,Stadnick,Sangret,
130 Jindra,Sowers,Matuska
135 Jenson,Hernann,Dvorak
140 Kivel,Minete,?
145 Poikonen,Hessing,Mandarschied
152 Madison,White,Brasket
160 Neaton,Schlueter
171 Bohler,??
189 Pawelk,Miller,Foarty
215 Broll,Krolls,Rutt,Abernathy
HVT Brinkmann,Henteges,Krocak

Please know this is just a starting point! Some kids will be at last years weight some may be 2 or 3 weights higher. We just don't know yet. Way to many ifs but I thought I'd start
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Jun 28 2008, 01:43 PM
Just guessing no order of placing, names and possible weights.

103 Elsepeter, ??
112 Clobes,Braunhausen,Rydell
119 Fleming,Goldberg,Friederich,Zilverberg
125 Friederich,Stadnick,Sangret,
130 Jindra,Sowers,Matuska
135 Jenson,Hernann,Dvorak
140 Kivel,Minete,?
145 Poikonen,Hessing,Mandarschied
152 Madison,White,Brasket
160 Neaton,Schlueter
171 Bohler,??
189 Pawelk,Miller,Foarty
215 Broll,Krolls,Rutt,Abernathy
HVT Brinkmann,Henteges,Krocak

Please know this is just a starting point! Some kids will be at last years weight some may be 2 or 3 weights higher. We just don't know yet. Way to many ifs but I thought I'd start

Ethan Smith will fit in at 140 and 135 from Hutch he was injured all last season and is about 5 wins from 100 wins. Look for him to make some noise next year with him on the squad Hutch will be a top 2 team next year.
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Anyone have a potential line up for MLLC and Scott West....they both lost a bunch of kids.
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Anyone have a potential line up for MLLC and Scott West....they both lost a bunch of kids.

Scott West's lineup is stacked this year. Two new kids coming in for sure and possibly another light weight. Looks good.
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Jun 29 2008, 09:09 PM
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Jun 29 2008, 09:01 PM
Anyone have a potential line up for MLLC and Scott West....they both lost a bunch of kids.

Scott West's lineup is stacked this year. Two new kids coming in for sure and possibly another light weight. Looks good.

I heard rumor of two brothers moving their....who are they poppa B)
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I am sure it will be another good year for ..................Scott/Hennepin/Washington/Waseca/Dakota/Ramsey- West

They seem to be able to recruit (I mean reload) every year!
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I am sure it will be another good year for ..................Scott/Hennepin/Washington/Waseca/Dakota/Ramsey- West

They seem to be able to recruit (I mean reload) every year!

You forgot two...
I think they are coming from Rice and/or Le Sueur counties :ph43r:
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Jun 30 2008, 06:59 AM
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Anyone have a potential line up for MLLC and Scott West....they both lost a bunch of kids.

Scott West's lineup is stacked this year. Two new kids coming in for sure and possibly another light weight. Looks good.

I heard rumor of two brothers moving their....who are they poppa B)

I was just joking around. I havent heard of anyone moving here.

Scott West doesnt recruit.
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Jun 30 2008, 04:29 PM
Scott West doesnt recruit.

:lol: :o :lol: :D .......right ;)
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Still looking for info about New Ulm, Mankato East, St. Peter, and how about Glenco-Silverlake. They were kinda thin last year, do they have some young kids coming up?
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Scott West has Goldgerg and Kivel for stars. After that they have .500 to .600 wrestlers at best. Anyone have in site on S.W.?
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Scott West has Goldgerg and Kivel for stars. After that they have .500 to .600 wrestlers at best. Anyone have in site on S.W.?

Sounds like you have the insight, why ask others?
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Scott West has Goldgerg and Kivel for stars. After that they have .500 to .600 wrestlers at best. Anyone have in site on S.W.?

Sounds like you have the insight, why ask others?

Thanks for your well thought out and informative post. It put a new light on the subject and we all thank you for that. As far as my source of info on S.W., no insight, just looked at individual record in MSHSL. So, you have anymore light you want to shed on the subject goTigersgo?
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Scott West has Goldgerg and Kivel for stars. After that they have .500 to .600 wrestlers at best. Anyone have in site on S.W.?

Sounds like you have the insight, why ask others?

Thanks for your well thought out and informative post. It put a new light on the subject and we all thank you for that. As far as my source of info on S.W., no insight, just looked at individual record in MSHSL. So, you have anymore light you want to shed on the subject goTigersgo?

I think that SW lost less than others in the section, and would be the pick to go to state, and I'm sorry for crackin' wise.
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Scott West obviously has Goldberg and Kivel.

They also return plenty of expierenced wrestlers from last year.

Betchwars 6-5
Siegle 10-13
Zilverberg 21-13
Dvorak 23-13
Dillon Fogarty 12-9
Connor Fogarty 22-14
Kroells 7-5
Hentges 18-15
Goldberg 31-5
Kivel 32-4
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Jul 2 2008, 10:33 PM
Scott West obviously has Goldberg and Kivel.

They also return plenty of expierenced wrestlers from last year.

Betchwars 6-5
Siegle 10-13
Zilverberg 21-13
Dvorak 23-13
Dillon Fogarty 12-9
Connor Fogarty 22-14
Kroells 7-5
Hentges 18-15
Goldberg 31-5
Kivel 32-4

Looks like Bigpoppa11 found the same MSHSL page as I did goTigersgo. Like I said, they have Kivel, Goldberg and a hand full of average.
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what is Scott West's line up going to look like
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Hutchinson should be competitive again:

103- Chris Retterath
112- Nick Clobes 29-13
119- Lucas Ferrian 13-23
125- Bobby Rasmussen 9-12
130- Jackson Hallahan 13-13
135- Ethan Smith
140- Ryan Madson
145- Jordan Hanson 23-15
152- Cody Manderscheid 30-7
160- Mike Schlueter 9-17
171- Kyle White 12-22
189- Mason Anderson 11-20
215- Dylan Robinson
285- Wes Corrigen 1-19

most of the upper weight were 9-10th graders last year so I think we'll see better results out of them this year. Clobes,Smith, Madson, Handson, and Manderscheid should all be in the mix for the top 2 @ their weights depending on what weights they end up at.

I don't see them winning the section but they should be competitive.
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Scott West obviously has Goldberg and Kivel. 

They also return plenty of expierenced wrestlers from last year.

Betchwars   6-5
Siegle       10-13
Zilverberg  21-13
Dvorak   23-13
Dillon Fogarty  12-9
Connor Fogarty   22-14
Kroells   7-5
Hentges  18-15
Goldberg  31-5
Kivel    32-4

Looks like Bigpoppa11 found the same MSHSL page as I did goTigersgo. Like I said, they have Kivel, Goldberg and a hand full of average.

Most of those kid's records makes them look worse than they actually are. Thats from wrestling tough competition. Where as MLLC's records make them look better than what they actually are.
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