Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to The Guillotine Forum. We hope you enjoy your visit.

If you join our community, you'll be able to use many member-only features such as posting messages, customizing your profile, sending personal messages, voting in polls, and fewer ads.

Email forum@theguillotine.com to find out how to get an account.

If you're already a member please log in:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,700 Views)
Jared
Member Avatar
Fantastic
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
RBryce
Feb 17 2016, 09:12 AM
Aftermath
Feb 16 2016, 08:19 PM
That heavy weight from Belle Plaine - Jordan is a beast. I expect him to finish above his ranking at state. Did he play football?
I am not from this section and obviously some posters are trying to antagonize the Scott West fans but hasn't it been Scott West for about 25 years now? Also seems like a high percentage of the schools around the state have done the same thing over the last 30 years or so.
I'm not sure what Aftermath is trying to get at by calling Scott West- Jordan/ Belle Plaine, and why he doesn't include Holy Family then?

But this brings up a totally different question. A lot of people might not know what schools make up Scott West. Does any other schools combine just for wrestling and rename the whole program? I couldn't think of any but a name that came up in my mind was Quad County. I had no clue of all the schools that make up Quad County. I'm sure at least 75% of the forum has no idea what schools Quad County consist of. I had no clue what MACCRAY stood for. Is there any other teams that changed there name just for wrestling?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Folkstyle
Member Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
United is another one.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
thesportsfan
No Avatar
Newbie
[ * ]
Scott West is made up of Belle Plaine and Jordan. The Holy Family reference is to Holy Family Academy, which is a tiny operation ran out of Belle Plaine with an enrollment of 9. Holy Family Academy is a coop with Belle Plaine for all sports. The more commonly known Holy Family Catholic out of Victoria with an enrollment of 437 coops with Mound Westonka and Southwest Christian for wrestling.

There are many examples of schools that coop for wrestling that don't change there name entirely like Jordan/Belle Plaine.

Examples:

Chaska-Chan Stormhawks (Chaska-Chanhassen)
United Clay Becker Badgers (Hawley/Lake Park-Audubon)
Quad County (MACCRAY, Yellow Medicine East, Renville County Central)
United North Central (Sebeka/Menahga)
Mille Lacs Raiders (Isle/Onamia)
Border West Buccaneers (CBG/HN/Wheaton)
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
goTigersgo
Member Avatar
Fanatic
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
RBryce
Feb 17 2016, 09:12 AM
Aftermath
Feb 16 2016, 08:19 PM
That heavy weight from Belle Plaine - Jordan is a beast. I expect him to finish above his ranking at state. Did he play football?
I am not from this section and obviously some posters are trying to antagonize the Scott West fans but hasn't it been Scott West for about 25 years now? Also seems like a high percentage of the schools around the state have done the same thing over the last 30 years or so.
Looking at Aftermath's profile, he has posted 11 times, 9 of which have been taken down by the moderators. That explains a lot.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Tricity79
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
thesportsfan
Feb 17 2016, 12:32 PM
Scott West is made up of Belle Plaine and Jordan. The Holy Family reference is to Holy Family Academy, which is a tiny operation ran out of Belle Plaine with an enrollment of 9. Holy Family Academy is a coop with Belle Plaine for all sports. The more commonly known Holy Family Catholic out of Victoria with an enrollment of 437 coops with Mound Westonka and Southwest Christian for wrestling.

There are many examples of schools that coop for wrestling that don't change there name entirely like Jordan/Belle Plaine.

Examples:

Chaska-Chan Stormhawks (Chaska-Chanhassen)
United Clay Becker Badgers (Hawley/Lake Park-Audubon)
Quad County (MACCRAY, Yellow Medicine East, Renville County Central)
United North Central (Sebeka/Menahga)
Mille Lacs Raiders (Isle/Onamia)
Border West Buccaneers (CBG/HN/Wheaton)
United (Dawson-Boyd, Lac Qui Parle Valley, Montevideo)
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
doubleleg344
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
Dobber
Feb 16 2016, 08:00 PM
I'll take a stab at it if nobody else is going too.
106- Pickell over Shackle
113- Vos over Stauffacher
120- Huss over Gillette
126- Stauffacher over Luthens
132- Wagener over (Pundsack, Piche) I believe that is going to be a fun match to watch. I know Pundsack won on Saturday but I still don't know who to pick.
138- Donnay over Schultz, I hope to see a Siegle, Schultz round 3 this weekend at some point too.
145- Kelvington over Sweeney
152- Parriott over Milbrett
160- Hemze over Neaton
170- Knutson (if healthy) over Rutt If Knutson can't go I think there are multiple guys that could fight it out for second.
182- Buesgens over Brejle which would set up a true second match versus Kurth
195- I have no idea really. Is Kurth healthy? This weight seems really up in the air to me.
220- Jakes over Stenzel with the possibility of a true second
285- Burns over Swanson with a true second against Schatz
At 138 I see Schultz & Siegle going. I think Donnay will be odd man out
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Aftermath
Member Avatar
Wrestling Fan
[ *  *  * ]
goTigersgo
Feb 17 2016, 12:52 PM
RBryce
Feb 17 2016, 09:12 AM
Aftermath
Feb 16 2016, 08:19 PM
That heavy weight from Belle Plaine - Jordan is a beast. I expect him to finish above his ranking at state. Did he play football?
I am not from this section and obviously some posters are trying to antagonize the Scott West fans but hasn't it been Scott West for about 25 years now? Also seems like a high percentage of the schools around the state have done the same thing over the last 30 years or so.
Looking at Aftermath's profile, he has posted 11 times, 9 of which have been taken down by the moderators. That explains a lot.
Turning over a new leaf. Just trying to give a compliment to a tough wrestler.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Aftermath
Member Avatar
Wrestling Fan
[ *  *  * ]
thesportsfan
Feb 17 2016, 12:32 PM
Scott West is made up of Belle Plaine and Jordan. The Holy Family reference is to Holy Family Academy, which is a tiny operation ran out of Belle Plaine with an enrollment of 9. Holy Family Academy is a coop with Belle Plaine for all sports. The more commonly known Holy Family Catholic out of Victoria with an enrollment of 437 coops with Mound Westonka and Southwest Christian for wrestling.

There are many examples of schools that coop for wrestling that don't change there name entirely like Jordan/Belle Plaine.

Examples:

Chaska-Chan Stormhawks (Chaska-Chanhassen)
United Clay Becker Badgers (Hawley/Lake Park-Audubon)
Quad County (MACCRAY, Yellow Medicine East, Renville County Central)
United North Central (Sebeka/Menahga)
Mille Lacs Raiders (Isle/Onamia)
Border West Buccaneers (CBG/HN/Wheaton)
Those are 6 examples of poor wrestling communities that need to co-op to keep their wrestling programs alive. Here are some more numbers for you:

Enrollment:
A
Minneota- 135
Kenyon Wanamingo- 230
Frazee- 222
AA
Foley-436
Wabasso/Red Rock- 255
Perham- 413

...and..
Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438

This will probably get erased but remember... Jeep'n served for my right to have free speech.

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
pantherfan84
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
doubleleg344
Feb 17 2016, 01:10 PM
Dobber
Feb 16 2016, 08:00 PM
I'll take a stab at it if nobody else is going too.
106- Pickell over Shackle
113- Vos over Stauffacher
120- Huss over Gillette
126- Stauffacher over Luthens
132- Wagener over (Pundsack, Piche) I believe that is going to be a fun match to watch. I know Pundsack won on Saturday but I still don't know who to pick.
138- Donnay over Schultz, I hope to see a Siegle, Schultz round 3 this weekend at some point too.
145- Kelvington over Sweeney
152- Parriott over Milbrett
160- Hemze over Neaton
170- Knutson (if healthy) over Rutt If Knutson can't go I think there are multiple guys that could fight it out for second.
182- Buesgens over Brejle which would set up a true second match versus Kurth
195- I have no idea really. Is Kurth healthy? This weight seems really up in the air to me.
220- Jakes over Stenzel with the possibility of a true second
285- Burns over Swanson with a true second against Schatz
At 138 I see Schultz & Siegle going. I think Donnay will be odd man out
Any reasoning behind this?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
3girlsanddad
Member Avatar
4 girls and dad
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 06:25 PM
thesportsfan
Feb 17 2016, 12:32 PM
Scott West is made up of Belle Plaine and Jordan. The Holy Family reference is to Holy Family Academy, which is a tiny operation ran out of Belle Plaine with an enrollment of 9. Holy Family Academy is a coop with Belle Plaine for all sports. The more commonly known Holy Family Catholic out of Victoria with an enrollment of 437 coops with Mound Westonka and Southwest Christian for wrestling.

There are many examples of schools that coop for wrestling that don't change there name entirely like Jordan/Belle Plaine.

Examples:

Chaska-Chan Stormhawks (Chaska-Chanhassen)
United Clay Becker Badgers (Hawley/Lake Park-Audubon)
Quad County (MACCRAY, Yellow Medicine East, Renville County Central)
United North Central (Sebeka/Menahga)
Mille Lacs Raiders (Isle/Onamia)
Border West Buccaneers (CBG/HN/Wheaton)
Those are 6 examples of poor wrestling communities that need to co-op to keep their wrestling programs alive. Here are some more numbers for you:

Enrollment:
A
Minneota- 135
Kenyon Wanamingo- 230
Frazee- 222
AA
Foley-436
Wabasso/Red Rock- 255
Perham- 413

...and..
Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438

This will probably get erased but remember... Jeep'n served for my right to have free speech.

The problem I think most people have with Scott West, is that, you Coop when your numbers are down and you can't fill a team. But, IF their numbers were down in 1990, why not separate when their numbers rebounded?? Richfield was a coop with some other team for a few years, but now back on their own(after numbers came back up).
Since state on 1991 SW has sent 148 wrestlers to state, plus this year(over 6 wrestlers per year). And has been to state as a team 16 times in 25 years.
So, my point is, I believe SW cooped to become a power house, not because their numbers were down (that's why they WERE kicked out of the conference) AND I'm jealous.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BLuth
Member Avatar
Wrestling Fan
[ *  *  * ]
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 06:25 PM


Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438




If this is actually the enrollment of these 2 schools, Then why are they paired? Each school on its own is bigger than a lot of the AA schools. Each of these schools would be big enough to have their own team. Are these schools paired in any other sports?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
one bottom
No Avatar
Wrestling Fan
[ *  *  * ]
pantherfan84
Feb 17 2016, 06:39 PM
doubleleg344
Feb 17 2016, 01:10 PM
Dobber
Feb 16 2016, 08:00 PM
I'll take a stab at it if nobody else is going too.
106- Pickell over Shackle
113- Vos over Stauffacher
120- Huss over Gillette
126- Stauffacher over Luthens
132- Wagener over (Pundsack, Piche) I believe that is going to be a fun match to watch. I know Pundsack won on Saturday but I still don't know who to pick.
138- Donnay over Schultz, I hope to see a Siegle, Schultz round 3 this weekend at some point too.
145- Kelvington over Sweeney
152- Parriott over Milbrett
160- Hemze over Neaton
170- Knutson (if healthy) over Rutt If Knutson can't go I think there are multiple guys that could fight it out for second.
182- Buesgens over Brejle which would set up a true second match versus Kurth
195- I have no idea really. Is Kurth healthy? This weight seems really up in the air to me.
220- Jakes over Stenzel with the possibility of a true second
285- Burns over Swanson with a true second against Schatz
At 138 I see Schultz & Siegle going. I think Donnay will be odd man out
Any reasoning behind this?
Haven't seen Donnay much can you give us a few examples of good wrestlers he ha beaten this year
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
.75 Nelson
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 06:25 PM
thesportsfan
Feb 17 2016, 12:32 PM
Scott West is made up of Belle Plaine and Jordan. The Holy Family reference is to Holy Family Academy, which is a tiny operation ran out of Belle Plaine with an enrollment of 9. Holy Family Academy is a coop with Belle Plaine for all sports. The more commonly known Holy Family Catholic out of Victoria with an enrollment of 437 coops with Mound Westonka and Southwest Christian for wrestling.

There are many examples of schools that coop for wrestling that don't change there name entirely like Jordan/Belle Plaine.

Examples:

Chaska-Chan Stormhawks (Chaska-Chanhassen)
United Clay Becker Badgers (Hawley/Lake Park-Audubon)
Quad County (MACCRAY, Yellow Medicine East, Renville County Central)
United North Central (Sebeka/Menahga)
Mille Lacs Raiders (Isle/Onamia)
Border West Buccaneers (CBG/HN/Wheaton)
Those are 6 examples of poor wrestling communities that need to co-op to keep their wrestling programs alive. Here are some more numbers for you:

Enrollment:
A
Minneota- 135
Kenyon Wanamingo- 230
Frazee- 222
AA
Foley-436
Wabasso/Red Rock- 255
Perham- 413

...and..
Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438

This will probably get erased but remember... Jeep'n served for my right to have free speech.

Does W/RRC opt up? Those are single A enrollment numbers.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Folkstyle
Member Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
BLuth
Feb 17 2016, 06:56 PM
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 06:25 PM


Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438




If this is actually the enrollment of these 2 schools, Then why are they paired? Each school on its own is bigger than a lot of the AA schools. Each of these schools would be big enough to have their own team. Are these schools paired in any other sports?
There is a large range between the high end of AA and the low, especially in this section. BPJHF is pretty much in the middle, maybe the high middle. They are more than double some of the smaller 2AA schools like WM/ML, WEM/JWP, TCU, and St Peter.

If you look at the enrollment numbers of just 2AA, you'll see that AAA should expand to more like 75 teams as opposed to 64. And you'll see that BPJHF could support 2 teams.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Guillotine reader
No Avatar
Wrestling Fan
[ *  *  * ]
3girlsanddad...New Prague guy...enrollment 1193
bluth... hutch-blh guy...enrollment 973
aftermath...Waconia guy...enrollment 1062
Scott West...865

Looks like a pretty equal playing field to me. It's not the numbers, it is what you do with them.


It seems like every year this poor dead horse gets beat again. Scott West is probably not going to split up because of people complaining on a message board.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
doubleleg344
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
pantherfan84
Feb 17 2016, 06:39 PM
doubleleg344
Feb 17 2016, 01:10 PM
Dobber
Feb 16 2016, 08:00 PM
I'll take a stab at it if nobody else is going too.
106- Pickell over Shackle
113- Vos over Stauffacher
120- Huss over Gillette
126- Stauffacher over Luthens
132- Wagener over (Pundsack, Piche) I believe that is going to be a fun match to watch. I know Pundsack won on Saturday but I still don't know who to pick.
138- Donnay over Schultz, I hope to see a Siegle, Schultz round 3 this weekend at some point too.
145- Kelvington over Sweeney
152- Parriott over Milbrett
160- Hemze over Neaton
170- Knutson (if healthy) over Rutt If Knutson can't go I think there are multiple guys that could fight it out for second.
182- Buesgens over Brejle which would set up a true second match versus Kurth
195- I have no idea really. Is Kurth healthy? This weight seems really up in the air to me.
220- Jakes over Stenzel with the possibility of a true second
285- Burns over Swanson with a true second against Schatz
At 138 I see Schultz & Siegle going. I think Donnay will be odd man out
Any reasoning behind this?
I just think there better wrestler's
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
3girlsanddad
Member Avatar
4 girls and dad
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Guillotine reader
Feb 17 2016, 07:17 PM
3girlsanddad...New Prague guy...enrollment 1193
bluth... hutch-blh guy...enrollment 973
aftermath...Waconia guy...enrollment 1062
Scott West...865

Looks like a pretty equal playing field to me. It's not the numbers, it is what you do with them.


It seems like every year this poor dead horse gets beat again. Scott West is probably not going to split up because of people complaining on a message board.
Swing and a miss, STRIKE ONE.

How many kids, 7th-12th, does SW have out for wrestling??
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Aftermath
Member Avatar
Wrestling Fan
[ *  *  * ]
Guillotine reader
Feb 17 2016, 07:17 PM
3girlsanddad...New Prague guy...enrollment 1193
bluth... hutch-blh guy...enrollment 973
aftermath...Waconia guy...enrollment 1062
Scott West...865

Looks like a pretty equal playing field to me. It's not the numbers, it is what you do with them.


It seems like every year this poor dead horse gets beat again. Scott West is probably not going to split up because of people complaining on a message board.
Guillotine Reader....Belle Plaine/Jordan guy....enrollment 952

My apologies, those numbers were from 2012, Belle Plaine is actually 457 and Jordan is 495, W/RRC is actually 242...I'm not sure if they opt up.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Guillotine reader
No Avatar
Wrestling Fan
[ *  *  * ]
those numbers are right off the MSHSL website, I didn't look up Scott West's because aftermath already stated them. All facts

OK 952..still smaller than the other 3
Edited by Guillotine reader, Feb 17 2016, 07:29 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Land shark
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 07:26 PM
Guillotine reader
Feb 17 2016, 07:17 PM
3girlsanddad...New Prague guy...enrollment 1193
bluth... hutch-blh guy...enrollment 973
aftermath...Waconia guy...enrollment 1062
Scott West...865

Looks like a pretty equal playing field to me. It's not the numbers, it is what you do with them.


It seems like every year this poor dead horse gets beat again. Scott West is probably not going to split up because of people complaining on a message board.
Guillotine Reader....Belle Plaine/Jordan guy....enrollment 952

My apologies, those numbers were from 2012, Belle Plaine is actually 457 and Jordan is 495, W/RRC is actually 242...I'm not sure if they opt up.
W/RRC does opt up.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
3girlsanddad
Member Avatar
4 girls and dad
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Guillotine reader
Feb 17 2016, 07:17 PM
3girlsanddad...New Prague guy...enrollment 1193
bluth... hutch-blh guy...enrollment 973
aftermath...Waconia guy...enrollment 1062
Scott West...865

Looks like a pretty equal playing field to me. It's not the numbers, it is what you do with them.


It seems like every year this poor dead horse gets beat again. Scott West is probably not going to split up because of people complaining on a message board.
You actually offended me, I'm not arrogant enough to be from NP!! :X
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Guillotine reader
No Avatar
Wrestling Fan
[ *  *  * ]
Sorry, no offense meant, I just had you pegged a little farther north :)
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
pantherfan84
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
doubleleg344
Feb 17 2016, 07:20 PM
pantherfan84
Feb 17 2016, 06:39 PM
doubleleg344
Feb 17 2016, 01:10 PM
Dobber
Feb 16 2016, 08:00 PM
I'll take a stab at it if nobody else is going too.
106- Pickell over Shackle
113- Vos over Stauffacher
120- Huss over Gillette
126- Stauffacher over Luthens
132- Wagener over (Pundsack, Piche) I believe that is going to be a fun match to watch. I know Pundsack won on Saturday but I still don't know who to pick.
138- Donnay over Schultz, I hope to see a Siegle, Schultz round 3 this weekend at some point too.
145- Kelvington over Sweeney
152- Parriott over Milbrett
160- Hemze over Neaton
170- Knutson (if healthy) over Rutt If Knutson can't go I think there are multiple guys that could fight it out for second.
182- Buesgens over Brejle which would set up a true second match versus Kurth
195- I have no idea really. Is Kurth healthy? This weight seems really up in the air to me.
220- Jakes over Stenzel with the possibility of a true second
285- Burns over Swanson with a true second against Schatz
At 138 I see Schultz & Siegle going. I think Donnay will be odd man out
Any reasoning behind this?
I just think there better wrestler's
You are definitely entitled to your opinion I was just curious. This is just another weight that is extremely close I thing there are 4 or 5 kids who have a realistic chance as they are all quite close. From the results I know Donnay lost to Schultz early in the season 4-2 but did beat him in thier only match last year. Seigle and Schultz split 1-1 this year with one of the matches going to OT. Both Donnay and Seigle lost to Mueller from waconia in team sections but I would think he goes 145 being behind Schultz. Donnay also beat Ayers in a close match at team definitely think Ayers has a chance too and I'm sure I missed someone going to be a fun weight assuming they all go 138
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
3girlsanddad
Member Avatar
4 girls and dad
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
New Prague has the largest enrollment in AA, so in two years when MSHSL looks at sections again, NP will be in 2AAA or maybe 1AAA. Jared, what do you think about that, you 171# stud?? See you Saturday.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Folkstyle
Member Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
Guillotine reader
Feb 17 2016, 07:17 PM
3girlsanddad...New Prague guy...enrollment 1193
bluth... hutch-blh guy...enrollment 973
aftermath...Waconia guy...enrollment 1062
Scott West...865

Looks like a pretty equal playing field to me. It's not the numbers, it is what you do with them.


It seems like every year this poor dead horse gets beat again. Scott West is probably not going to split up because of people complaining on a message board.
It really cracks me up to hear a Trojan fan complaining about the size of BP and Jordan. NP is slightly bigger than Jordan, which is slightly bigger than BP. But if you compare enrollment numbers NP is just a few heads away from AAA, but they don't usually understand that.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Jeep'n
Member Avatar
Fantastic
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 06:25 PM
thesportsfan
Feb 17 2016, 12:32 PM
Scott West is made up of Belle Plaine and Jordan. The Holy Family reference is to Holy Family Academy, which is a tiny operation ran out of Belle Plaine with an enrollment of 9. Holy Family Academy is a coop with Belle Plaine for all sports. The more commonly known Holy Family Catholic out of Victoria with an enrollment of 437 coops with Mound Westonka and Southwest Christian for wrestling.

There are many examples of schools that coop for wrestling that don't change there name entirely like Jordan/Belle Plaine.

Examples:

Chaska-Chan Stormhawks (Chaska-Chanhassen)
United Clay Becker Badgers (Hawley/Lake Park-Audubon)
Quad County (MACCRAY, Yellow Medicine East, Renville County Central)
United North Central (Sebeka/Menahga)
Mille Lacs Raiders (Isle/Onamia)
Border West Buccaneers (CBG/HN/Wheaton)
Those are 6 examples of poor wrestling communities that need to co-op to keep their wrestling programs alive. Here are some more numbers for you:

Enrollment:
A
Minneota- 135
Kenyon Wanamingo- 230
Frazee- 222
AA
Foley-436
Wabasso/Red Rock- 255
Perham- 413

...and..
Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438

This will probably get erased but remember... Jeep'n served for my right to have free speech.

And I am still behind your right to embarrass yourself.

Please keep it up!
Edited by Jeep'n, Feb 17 2016, 07:55 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BRM8
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
.75 Nelson
Feb 17 2016, 07:03 PM
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 06:25 PM
thesportsfan
Feb 17 2016, 12:32 PM
Scott West is made up of Belle Plaine and Jordan. The Holy Family reference is to Holy Family Academy, which is a tiny operation ran out of Belle Plaine with an enrollment of 9. Holy Family Academy is a coop with Belle Plaine for all sports. The more commonly known Holy Family Catholic out of Victoria with an enrollment of 437 coops with Mound Westonka and Southwest Christian for wrestling.

There are many examples of schools that coop for wrestling that don't change there name entirely like Jordan/Belle Plaine.

Examples:

Chaska-Chan Stormhawks (Chaska-Chanhassen)
United Clay Becker Badgers (Hawley/Lake Park-Audubon)
Quad County (MACCRAY, Yellow Medicine East, Renville County Central)
United North Central (Sebeka/Menahga)
Mille Lacs Raiders (Isle/Onamia)
Border West Buccaneers (CBG/HN/Wheaton)
Those are 6 examples of poor wrestling communities that need to co-op to keep their wrestling programs alive. Here are some more numbers for you:

Enrollment:
A
Minneota- 135
Kenyon Wanamingo- 230
Frazee- 222
AA
Foley-436
Wabasso/Red Rock- 255
Perham- 413

...and..
Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438

This will probably get erased but remember... Jeep'n served for my right to have free speech.

Does W/RRC opt up? Those are single A enrollment numbers.
Wabasso has jumped back and forth between A and AA a couple times, they opted up this year again.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
3girlsanddad
Member Avatar
4 girls and dad
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Jeep'n
Feb 17 2016, 07:54 PM
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 06:25 PM
thesportsfan
Feb 17 2016, 12:32 PM
Scott West is made up of Belle Plaine and Jordan. The Holy Family reference is to Holy Family Academy, which is a tiny operation ran out of Belle Plaine with an enrollment of 9. Holy Family Academy is a coop with Belle Plaine for all sports. The more commonly known Holy Family Catholic out of Victoria with an enrollment of 437 coops with Mound Westonka and Southwest Christian for wrestling.

There are many examples of schools that coop for wrestling that don't change there name entirely like Jordan/Belle Plaine.

Examples:

Chaska-Chan Stormhawks (Chaska-Chanhassen)
United Clay Becker Badgers (Hawley/Lake Park-Audubon)
Quad County (MACCRAY, Yellow Medicine East, Renville County Central)
United North Central (Sebeka/Menahga)
Mille Lacs Raiders (Isle/Onamia)
Border West Buccaneers (CBG/HN/Wheaton)
Those are 6 examples of poor wrestling communities that need to co-op to keep their wrestling programs alive. Here are some more numbers for you:

Enrollment:
A
Minneota- 135
Kenyon Wanamingo- 230
Frazee- 222
AA
Foley-436
Wabasso/Red Rock- 255
Perham- 413

...and..
Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438

This will probably get erased but remember... Jeep'n served for my right to have free speech.

And I am still behind your right to embarrass yourself.

Please keep it up!
He has a point, but who care about enrollment (besides MSHSL), how many kids does SW have out for wrestling??
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
pantherfan84
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
Folkstyle
Feb 17 2016, 07:49 PM
Guillotine reader
Feb 17 2016, 07:17 PM
3girlsanddad...New Prague guy...enrollment 1193
bluth... hutch-blh guy...enrollment 973
aftermath...Waconia guy...enrollment 1062
Scott West...865

Looks like a pretty equal playing field to me. It's not the numbers, it is what you do with them.


It seems like every year this poor dead horse gets beat again. Scott West is probably not going to split up because of people complaining on a message board.
It really cracks me up to hear a Trojan fan complaining about the size of BP and Jordan. NP is slightly bigger than Jordan, which is slightly bigger than BP. But if you compare enrollment numbers NP is just a few heads away from AAA, but they don't usually understand that.
I have always heard size doesn't matter :-/ haha does it really give a school that much of an advantage to have higher enrollment. .. maybe but the advantage I have seen from SW and many of the other "powerhouse" teams I have seen comes down to coaching and the winning culture they have built. It has always impressed me just seeing the number of coaches SW has compared to other teams in the section. From what I hear many of theses coaches were pretty good wrestlers in their day and I know many of them have had kids wrestle for SW in the past few years.I have always been told coaches kids make some of the best wrestlers. I would love to see the team I follow have as many former wrestlers/alumni help support our team I'm sure it would be beneficial.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BRM8
No Avatar
Super Fan
[ *  *  *  * ]
BLuth
Feb 17 2016, 06:56 PM
Aftermath
Feb 17 2016, 06:25 PM


Belle Plaine-427
Jordan-438




If this is actually the enrollment of these 2 schools, Then why are they paired? Each school on its own is bigger than a lot of the AA schools. Each of these schools would be big enough to have their own team. Are these schools paired in any other sports?
Enough kids for 2 teams and enough coaches for 4!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · High School · Next Topic »
Add Reply