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| Guillotine reader | Feb 19 2017, 06:58 PM Post #4771 |
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I think the referees disagree with you greenwave |
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| Greenwave | Feb 19 2017, 07:09 PM Post #4772 |
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Agreed GR. It's over and the call was made. Would the same call have been made at any other section site other Jordan or Belle Plaine? |
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| WrestlingOfficial | Feb 19 2017, 07:10 PM Post #4773 |
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I talked with the officials Couple of facts 1). There was no.back points being counted that is someone stretching the truth. The TD was at the buzzer and in question and was a close call that would have made 1 team happy and 1 team upset. 2). The 2 officials conferenced and made the decision. 3) the head official did not waive off the TD after the conference. His hand signals and verbal communication that we as fans didn't hear was to tell the head coaches to get back. I know it looked like they waived off the TD but that was not one he was trying to indicate 4) please don't call out the integrity of a very good NCAA and high school official please. Tough close calls happen. Had the TD been waived off we very well could be having this same conversation but it would be the other team complaining. That's what makes a job as an official tough as he has to make a call sometimes that happens right at the buzzer |
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| Folkstyle | Feb 19 2017, 07:21 PM Post #4774 |
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According to the radio call, the KCHK announcer said that there was .3 seconds on the clock when the score was signaled (even if the TD had happened with that time left, it could have been signaled after the buzzer, but he said the score was signaled with time on the clock). It was the former head/current assistant coach from New Prague that mentioned on the radio that it was a Scott West dad running the table. I don't think that was right to say as a radio analyst. Knowing who the "Scott West dad" was at the table makes it hard to believe an unethical call would have been made. Edited by Folkstyle, Feb 19 2017, 07:23 PM.
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| Greenwave | Feb 19 2017, 07:26 PM Post #4775 |
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Wrestling official-I appreciate your response and appreciate the great contribution of HS officials. Only question is why the 2 minute conversation with the table if Shultz confirmed?? If Shultz agreed it is a simple confirm and award points. I do disagree though, acting official Clearly waived off not pushed coaches back. |
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| Thats 2 | Feb 19 2017, 07:51 PM Post #4776 |
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How can you disagree with WrestlingOfficial? It's not him saying the ref was holding off the coaches He said he TALKED WITH THE OFFICIALS and THE OFFICIAL SAID "(I) did not waive off the TD after the conference. His hand signals and verbal communication that we as fans didn't hear was to tell the head coaches to get back. I know it looked like they waived off the TD but that was not one he was trying to indicate" Right from the mouth of the official that made the call Edited by Thats 2, Feb 19 2017, 07:52 PM.
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| WrestlingOfficial | Feb 19 2017, 08:03 PM Post #4777 |
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Greenwave in a very tight dual in tight situation like that a longer conversation to get it right is better than a short conversation. Some of the lengthy time was spent getting the coaches back so the 2 officials could discuss without persuasion from the 2 coaches. |
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| wholemilk | Feb 19 2017, 08:09 PM Post #4778 |
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There is clearly too much at stake here. Just like what was announced before wrestling started, no other final four in any section or class was as awesome as this one. It has to have a neutral site with all workers brought in with no affiliation to section 2AA what so ever. And shame on the MSHSL for taking the gate proceeds and allowing it to be a s$$t show again this year! |
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| Greenwave | Feb 19 2017, 08:12 PM Post #4779 |
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I agree with keeping the coaches out of it...and especially in that that scenario. From a spectator perspective, the call was wrong. |
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| bananasplits | Feb 19 2017, 08:22 PM Post #4780 |
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The ref signaled two points before time ran out, enough said! Scott West runs a great program and unfortunately you bashers out there can't just tip your cap. Maybe the hutch wrestler should have not given up a reversal at the time he did. Did you haters ever think about that? It was a great match and someone had to win, because it was Scott West some fans just can't take that. I'm a neutral fan in all this and I felt it should have been 2.
Edited by bananasplits, Feb 19 2017, 08:23 PM.
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| Greenwave | Feb 19 2017, 08:39 PM Post #4781 |
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I am not "hating" and do appreciate the Belle-Plaine-Jordan Coop. It was a great dual between 3 towns. |
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| Guillotine reader | Feb 19 2017, 08:45 PM Post #4782 |
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nice job Greenwave! Rod quashed the conspiracy theory on the clock so now we're back on track with the co-op. I knew it wouldn't take long. Get your dead horse beatin' sticks out boys, it's gonna be a long night ;) |
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| BigPoppa11 | Feb 19 2017, 09:07 PM Post #4783 |
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I guess the hutch wrestler didn't realize matches last 6 minutes. |
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| MinterMagic | Feb 19 2017, 09:10 PM Post #4784 |
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Congrats Scott West!! Represent Section 2AA well at the X!! |
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| buwahkon | Feb 19 2017, 09:19 PM Post #4785 |
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The dueling CO-OP's Jordan/Belle Plaine defeats Hutchinson/Buffalo Lake-Hector-Stewart 32-28 Awesome night at Scott West High School |
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| BigPoppa11 | Feb 19 2017, 09:21 PM Post #4786 |
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It's a great day to be a Scott West Panther! |
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| Folkstyle | Feb 19 2017, 09:29 PM Post #4787 |
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This day and age, someone's got to have it on video. |
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| Thats 2 | Feb 19 2017, 09:37 PM Post #4788 |
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I have a pict showing Beech awarding 2 and Schultz NOT signaling time had expired yet
Edited by Thats 2, Feb 19 2017, 09:39 PM.
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| Aftermath | Feb 20 2017, 01:13 AM Post #4789 |
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I apologize for implying the refs from yesterday's dual aren't good at what they do. Being a ref is not a job anyone envies. They make mistakes and that is just part of the sport. I was just trying to point out the classy comment by this clown :huh: and remind him that Waconia tied his team earlier in the year. It takes a one of kind person to come onto a forum after the team they are cheering for makes it to state and throw incendiary remarks out about a school that wasn't even in the finals. Even though it was clear to everyone in the gym that SW fans, coaches and wrestlers were celebrating when Hutch beat Waconia. big poppa you're not 'a scott west panther', you're some old guy living vicariously through today's wrestlers and making people dislike your coop more than necessary. It would be nice to be able to cheer on the team representing our section, but arrogant fans like you make it hard. Edited by Aftermath, Feb 20 2017, 01:23 AM.
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| buwahkon | Feb 20 2017, 05:35 AM Post #4790 |
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And 2017 SCOTT WEST |
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| Cyclone | Feb 20 2017, 05:56 AM Post #4791 |
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106 Jacob Hill SW Tristan Lang Hutch Nick Johnson TCU Colby Dunkel NP This should be fun! Hill beat Johnson on Thursday. Dunkel beat Hill Saturday Hill beat Lang Saturday. Lang/Johnson beat Dunkel earlier in year. How do you seed this one? |
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| Cattle Catcher | Feb 20 2017, 07:06 AM Post #4792 |
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How do you seed this one?[/quote] Colby Dunkel NP Jacob Hill SW Nick Johnson TCU Tristan Lang Hutch You go with the most recent results. The goal is for your skills to grow as the season progresses so a late season win has more precedence. But since the true second goes to state it really does not matter much how they are seeded. Your right though, it should be fun! Edited by Cattle Catcher, Feb 20 2017, 07:07 AM.
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| OLDMATRASLER | Feb 20 2017, 11:45 AM Post #4793 |
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I hope everyone has had their chance to air their sour grapes, but lets move on to individuals. 2AA has some of the best state match ups. Arguably one of the toughest sections in the State. Who are the top 2 at each weight? |
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| .75 Nelson | Feb 20 2017, 12:28 PM Post #4794 |
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I'd make the argument that it isn't "arguably one of the toughest sections in the state". Plain and simple, it is.
Edited by .75 Nelson, Feb 20 2017, 12:29 PM.
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| Tman21 | Feb 20 2017, 01:06 PM Post #4795 |
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I checked before the latest ratings and there were like 32 ranked wrestlers. Wow |
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| grand marshall | Feb 20 2017, 01:11 PM Post #4796 |
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I think 2AAA might have something to say about that statement. if you took the best 2AA kids at each weight and the best 2aaa kids at each weight I think 2AAA wins a 80% percent of the matches. ;) |
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| djs7s | Feb 20 2017, 02:18 PM Post #4797 |
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No sour grapes here, but I'd expect SW wrestling to be a brand known for state titles rather than section titles. I will give them credit if they win it all this year. In fact, I'd expect nothing less. I just don't want them to be known as a program who qualified 9/10 years but never got it done. |
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| buwahkon | Feb 20 2017, 02:50 PM Post #4798 |
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To start that comment off with "no sour grapes here" is probably the most disingenuous statement I've read on the forum in a long time Edited by buwahkon, Feb 20 2017, 04:58 PM.
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| judson | Feb 20 2017, 04:03 PM Post #4799 |
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Wish our program had the same brand known for winning section titles, think we could live with that. Good luck SW, represent and bring hope a well branded trip to the finals. |
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| buwahkon | Feb 20 2017, 05:56 PM Post #4800 |
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Being a bridesmaid at the Xcel is a lot better than being a bridesmaid in sections But I don't have to tell you that, do I djs7s? |
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