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| sacromattackrom | Jan 22 2009, 03:24 PM Post #481 |
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how do you figure siegle would get majored? If he wouldnt have been thrown to his back, that match would have been really close. I also would say that Hentges will get bonus points against Copenhaver next time if it needs to happen |
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| IMONTOPSTEP | Jan 22 2009, 04:41 PM Post #482 |
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| IMONTOPSTEP | Jan 22 2009, 04:43 PM Post #483 |
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And I think he would rather dip his head in the pot too - then wear a clock around his neck (Flavor Flav)?? |
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| Big E | Jan 22 2009, 04:58 PM Post #484 |
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Thanks again Hutchfan. If your picks are in the ball park, it looks like Delano, Hutch and New Prague match up well with each other and will likely fall into the 2-3-4 spots in some way or another. On paper, it looks like only Delano matches up the best with the faves from SW. Agree or could Hutch/New Prague work some magic? |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 22 2009, 05:09 PM Post #485 |
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Yeah, Hutch gives up too many points up top right now to beat Scott West, who is equally as strong as Hutch in the middle weights. The same thing with New Prague - they are generally stronger where Scott West can give up only three points. It should be an exciting two days of wrestling next week. Jan. 29 Hutch at New Prague (whoever loses is likely No. 4) Jan. 30 Hutch at Delano (w/ MLLC and Big Lake) |
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| Jeep'n | Jan 22 2009, 06:16 PM Post #486 |
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If they meet up again, there will not be a major on Seigle...Seigle was tied when he attemped a thrown and finished it poorly giving up 5 points. Other than that mistake, Sowers did not show any advantage. This match is a toss up and not a sure win for Delano. Forgarty had a rough start at 160, but settled into his game and nearly came back. I think this is his match to lose (In my opinion) A major is possible at 189, but not a certainty. Kroells is tough as nails and he is not going give up points with out a fight. I give the edge to Delano at HWT, but a fall isn't certain there as well. If they match up the same way again, this is how I call it... SW 34-33 if Sowers wins SW 37-30 if Sowers doesn't win My gut feel is the match ups will change if the meet up again. Nothing to back this, I could see them putting someone in at 119 and shift everyone up. Sowers and Zilverberg met at the ROR and it was a 1-0 match (another toss up...) Seigle against Celander - SW Fall Dvorak goes against Brasket - Maj or potential fall for SW Even if SW loses by dec at 119 and 125 its 15-10 SW going into 140 vs. Del 20-18... Oh so many way to play it out. Two very good teams... I can't wait to see them match up again...should be fun to watch! |
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| BigPoppa11 | Jan 22 2009, 07:56 PM Post #487 |
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I know Kroell's is tough for being a freshman. And he has shown he is capable of wrestling great matches. But didnt he get pinned twice last year by Dahl and get majored this year by him? |
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| wrestling father 1 | Jan 23 2009, 07:43 AM Post #488 |
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I think I would rather wear a clock around my neck, then i would never be late for anything. |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 23 2009, 10:43 PM Post #489 |
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Well, after watching a Dassel-Cokato 32-30 win over New Prague tonight I have a better idea of the Trojans. Sam Pokonowski won a 6-5 decision over Svoboda to win the match for the Chargers. Parriot lost 3-2 or 4-3 to Zach Peterson and Brandon Fiedler pinned Redding. Honestly, I didn't think NP was that strong. I'm interested to see if Waconia is better (they were wrestling when I left). 103: Nick Clobes (H) pin Andy Underhill (NP) H 6-0 112: Tyler Wendorff (H) pin Dakota Cole (NP) H 12-0 119: Aaron Redding (NP) dec. Lucas Ferrian H 12-3 125: Morgan Parriot (NP) dec. Bobby Rasmussen (H) H 12-6 130: Jordan Hansen (H) maj. Alex Minette (NP) H 16-6 135: Ethan Smith (H) pin Josh Stocker (NP) H 22-6 140: Logan Giles/Zac Hinricher (NP) dec. Anthony Settergrean (H) H 22-9 145: Ryan Madson (H) pin Andy Reinartz (NP) H 28-9 152: Cody Manderschied (H) pin Jesse Cole (NP) H 34-9 160: Mike Schlueter (H) maj David Doran (NP) H 38-9 171: Roger Sirek maj Mason Anderson (H) H 38-13 189: Jay Reinke (NP) wins by forfeit H 38-19 215: Zach Molitor (NP) fall Wes Corrigan H 38-25 Hwt: Brandon Svoboda (NP) wins by forfeit H 38-31 |
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| MinterMagic | Jan 23 2009, 10:49 PM Post #490 |
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Waconia 42 New Prague 32 Waconia 37 Dassel 33 Good night for the Cats!!!! |
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| Obsessed With Wrestling | Jan 23 2009, 11:02 PM Post #491 |
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Individual matchup results for Waconia/NP match? |
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| ted 567 | Jan 23 2009, 11:22 PM Post #492 |
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I'm not gonna say much but if Delano hadn't had seck injured at 103 then they probably would have defeated Scott West. Anyway I'm gonna go ahead and say that Delano is gonna win section 2AA. None of the other teams really have a chance. |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 23 2009, 11:28 PM Post #493 |
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I saw the first two matches - Andy Underhill beat Jacob Steinbauer - TCFL Braunshausen was roughing up Richard Reinartz at 112 Well, New Praguen drops out of the top four in my mind. 1. Scott West 2. Delano 3. Hutchinson 4. Waconia |
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| holdyerbreathtillitsover | Jan 23 2009, 11:42 PM Post #494 |
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New Prague had 5 Varsity wrestlers out of the lineup tonight. Also, Redding didn't even wrestle tonight, so how did he get beat???? New Prague will not be letting you down with your original predictions on their strenght.........stay tuned........don't switch the channel just yet................... We have what you thought we had. :rolleyes: |
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| MinterMagic | Jan 24 2009, 07:51 AM Post #495 |
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Did you really see the second match???? Underhill (NP) did tech. Steinbauer (WAC), Braunhausen (WAC) pinned Reinartz (WAC) |
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| IMONTOPSTEP | Jan 24 2009, 09:24 AM Post #496 |
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hutchfan - you should have been listening a little closer to who was wrestling - you have about 4-5 of your stats wrong on who was even wrestling for NP. I appreciate the updates - but make sure you have the correct person in for losing. Do you honestly think the Fiedler would pin Redding? |
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| tileman | Jan 24 2009, 09:31 AM Post #497 |
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Where has redding been, and the other 4 varsity wreslers. Are they on vacation? There is alot of talk on here from new prague parents about how good the team is. Most of the times it better to have the wrestlers prove it on the mat. |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 24 2009, 10:10 AM Post #498 |
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Who else did I get wrong besides Redding? Sorry, I walked in right when that match was just ending. I couldn't believe that DC got six there. Explains it then. I wrote down everybody I saw (didn't catch the name of the 145-pounder that got the forfeit). New Prague wrestlers that did not compete against DC 125-WAC112: Natalie Rutt (who I saw in street clothes), Logan Giles?, Aaron Redding, Jesse Cole? and Evan Beranek. Minter? Isn't that what I said. |
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| crusader wrestling | Jan 24 2009, 11:16 AM Post #499 |
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Is it possible NP now has a more favorable seeding match up come sections? |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 24 2009, 11:34 AM Post #500 |
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Unless New Prague beats Hutch Thursday - no. With a full lineup, yes, they might be better than Waconia or whoever, but seedings usually (key word) are based on what happened in the regular season regardless of why it happened. Hutch had health issues all last year and lost a number of duals because of it. They were given the No. 9 seed because they didn't beat any of the teams above them (outside Waconia in an individual tourney). Off to watch some wrestling at the Hutch Invite. |
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| yub | Jan 24 2009, 11:54 AM Post #501 |
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You must not have understood the question! And if I was from hutch I'd ask you to get off my side!!! or at least change your screen name!!! |
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| lshfan | Jan 25 2009, 06:32 PM Post #502 |
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Any predictions on MLLC vs LSH? MLLC should win 119,125,160,189,215,HWT - 103 and 171 probably decide the outcome. |
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| The Great Gamma | Jan 25 2009, 07:28 PM Post #503 |
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If LSH has everyone in and healthy including the coaches, they should take it. |
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| wrestling father 1 | Jan 26 2009, 07:16 AM Post #504 |
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Seems like most teams don't want too match up any sooner than they have to. Seedings are good, but not everything, you still have to take it all. Scott West is about the only team during the season that says, here we are, now beat us. Delano, Hutch and New Prague, would need the little things too go there way, but its not impossible. |
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| 3/4 Neilson | Jan 26 2009, 11:27 AM Post #505 |
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It's up to the bonus point. All about the PIN! |
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| wish-I-had-good-knees | Jan 26 2009, 08:11 PM Post #506 |
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went and saw MLLC wrestle last thurs vs NYA and i would give 171 to MLLC miller looked pretty goodif he loses it wont be by much. I see bonus at 160 189 215 275 should all be falls. and could be bonus at 119 an 125 not taking anything away from LSH but the fredricks bros are that tough. |
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| The Great Gamma | Jan 27 2009, 12:05 AM Post #507 |
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I think it will be much closer than you think based on match ups at the MLLC tourney. As you can see Miller didn't look that well. Results; 103 Chris Pfarr _ Mason Brownlee 8-6 LSH 112 Brent O'Connell_ Josh Selly Fall 52 LSH 125 Charlie Pesch_ Zach Friederich 11-4 MLLC 130 Brett Schwartz_ Nathon Rosier Fall 406 LSH 171 Josh Willaert_ Jeff Miller 10-8 LSH 215 Jacob Bruihler_ Andrew Engel Fall 246 MLLC |
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| wrestling father 1 | Jan 27 2009, 07:10 AM Post #508 |
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Lets hear it from some of the die-hards, this section at team"s and individual tournament time, could do pretty well. You have very good teams in Scott West and Delano. Hutch, MLLC , New Prague and Waconia are no slouch's. Individually you have : 103: Clobes 112: Flemming, Goldberg,and Braunhausen 119: Nate Friederich, Redding 125:Stranget, Sowers, and Zach Friederich 130: Siegle 135: Dvorak, I would put Hermann in here some place to 140: Jensen, Hessing 145: Kivel, madison and Poikonen 152; Manderscheid, maybe Davis 160: Bolher 171: Fogarty 189: Pawelk, krocak and Dahl 215: Brinkman, Broll 285: Zabel, Kratzke Pretty tough kids, Go section 2AA. |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 27 2009, 11:44 AM Post #509 |
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I'll add to this list 103: Nick Clobes (Hutch), Trenton Seck??? (Del), Matt Elsenpeter (WM), Luke Betchwars (SW) 112: Drew Fleming (WM), Lee Goldberg (SW), Sam Braunshausen (Wac), Natalie Rutt (NP) 119: Nate Friederich (MLLC), Aaron Redding (NP), Tyler Zilverberg (SW), Nick Rydell (SP) 125: Eli Stangret (Wac), Dalton Sowers (Del), Zach Friedrich (MLLC), Jacob Siegle (SW) 130: Stephen Delwiche (GSL), Jordan Hansen (Hutch), Mark Dvorak (SW), Joey Stadnick (WM) 135: Ethan Smith (Hutch), Dan Hermann (Wac), Ben Brasket (Del) 140: Alex Jenson (GSL), Joe Hessing (Del) 145: Tyler Kivel (SW), Ryan Madson (Hutch), Max Poikonen (WM), Mike Roth (Del) 152: Cody Manderscheid (Hutch), Jim Wilkins (SP), Taylor Neaton (WM) 160: Jake Bohler (Del), Mike Schlueter (Hutch), Dillon Fogarty (SW), Zach Rutt (MLLC) 171: Connor Fogarty (SW), Jeff Miller (MLLC) 189: Jared Pawelk (Wac), Johnny Krocak (MLLC), Eric Dahl (Del), Justin Nowak (GSL) 215: Pat Brinkman (NU), Brian Broll (Wac), Travis Hentges (SW) 285: Brandon Zabel (SP), Paul Kratzke (ME) Who is missing? |
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| Wrestler0001 | Jan 27 2009, 12:22 PM Post #510 |
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I think its funny how Delano is getting all this credit for being the 2nd best team in the conference and then you (wrestling father) bring up the individuals and give them no credit. The only four kids you have listed from Delano are Hessing, Sowers, Bohler, and Dahl. I would have to say that they must have a couple other good wrestlers on their team to be a successful as they have been. After watching them wrestle, I would have to say that Seck is a contender (if he wrestles), Brasket is another back-door guy that couple slip in, also Roth is a good contender.... I wouldn't count out their big boy either. Nelson |
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