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2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,827 Views)
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Jan 27 2009, 12:22 PM
I think its funny how Delano is getting all this credit for being the 2nd best team in the conference and then you (wrestling father) bring up the individuals and give them no credit.  The only four kids you have listed from Delano are Hessing, Sowers, Bohler, and Dahl.  I would have to say that they must have a couple other good wrestlers on their team to be a successful as they have been. After watching them wrestle, I would have to say that Seck is a contender (if he wrestles), Brasket is another back-door guy that couple slip in, also Roth is a good contender....
I wouldn't count out their big boy either. Nelson

Look a little closer, I added two names, to fill a couple of weights, but other than that, the remaining ones, are listed under the guillotine ratings! I wasn't purposely leaving anyone out, just pointing out how tough this section is.
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I think Betchwars (103lbs.) from SW could also be one of the 2AA representitives at state. Where is N. Rutt going to be and where has she been? She could make one of the weights more interesting. Taylor Neaton (WM) could be a force somewhere. Also, with Smith down could Madsen go to 140? It will be a very interesting section tourney no doubt!
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Jan 27 2009, 11:44 AM
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Jan 27 2009, 07:10 AM
Lets hear it from some of the die-hards, this section at team"s and individual tournament time,  could do pretty well. You have very good teams in Scott West and Delano. Hutch, MLLC , New Prague and Waconia are no slouch's. Individually you have :

103: Clobes
112: Flemming, Goldberg,and Braunhausen
119: Nate Friederich, Redding
125:Stranget, Sowers, and Zach Friederich
130: Siegle
135: Dvorak, I would put Hermann in here some place to
140: Jensen, Hessing
145: Kivel, madison and Poikonen
152; Manderscheid, maybe Davis
160: Bolher
171: Fogarty
189: Pawelk, krocak and Dahl
215: Brinkman, Broll
285: Zabel, Kratzke

Pretty tough kids, Go section 2AA.

I'll add to this list

103: Nick Clobes (Hutch), Trenton Seck??? (Del), Matt Elsenpeter (WM)
112: Drew Fleming (WM), Lee Goldberg (SW), Sam Braunshausen (Wac)
119: Nate Friederich (MLLC), Aaron Redding (NP), Tyler Zilverberg (SW), Nick Rydell (SP)
125: Eli Stangret (Wac), Dalton Sowers (Del), Zach Friedrich (MLLC), Jacob Siegle (SW)
130: Stephen Delwiche (GSL), Jordan Hansen (Hutch), Mark Dvorak (SW), Joey Stadnick (WM)
135: Ethan Smith (Hutch), Dan Hermann (Wac)
140: Alex Jenson (GSL), Joe Hessing (Del)
145: Tyler Kivel (SW), Ryan Madson (Hutch), Max Poikonen (WM), Mike Roth (Del)
152: Cody Manderscheid (Hutch), Jim Wilkins (SP)
160: Jake Bohler (Del), Mike Schlueter (Hutch), Dillon Fogarty (SW), Zach Rutt (MLLC)
171: Connor Fogarty (SW), Jeff Miller (MLLC)
189: Jared Pawelk (Wac), Johnny Krocak (MLLC), Eric Dahl (Del), Justin Nowak (GSL)
215: Pat Brinkman (NU), Brian Broll (Wac), Travis Hentges (SW)
285: Brandon Zabel (SP), Paul Kratzke (ME)

Who is missing?


Add Betchwars-SW @ 103
Add Patroit-NP @ 125
Add Neaton-WML @ 171
Add Nelson-Del @ Hwt

Move Rydell to 112
Move Stangret to 130
Move Delwich to 135

I just don't think we will see Kivel, Madson and Poikonen all at 145. Somebody will move. Interesting thought with Madson going to 140, could he win it all at that weight?

Team section winner might affect indv. section the following week. If SW loses, will Zilverberg take a shot at 125? If Del loses, will we see Seck @ 112?
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Jan 27 2009, 01:48 PM
I think Betchwars (103lbs.) from SW could also be one of the 2AA representitives at state. Where is N. Rutt going to be and where has she been? She could make one of the weights more interesting. Taylor Neaton (WM) could be a force somewhere. Also, with Smith down could Madsen go to 140? It will be a very interesting section tourney no doubt!

Added Neaton and Betchwars to the list. I knew I was forgetting a solid wrestler from Watertown. Saw Rutt on the sidelines in street clothes last Friday. No brace or anything.

As for Madson, highly unlikely is what I would say. Not going to say it can't happen, but I think it would be tough to get down, stay down and be competitive. That would make a great 1-2-3 at 145 unless Poikonen moves up to 152.

Let's say Madson stays at 145:
1. He likely finishes second - then he would have to wrestle a section champion in the state first round.
But...
2. He would be on the opposite side of the bracket from Kivel.
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What about Alex Minette (130) from new prague and by Patroit i think you mean Morgan Parriott (125). Also I believe Jay Reinke (189) is pretty decent.
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103: Nick Clobes (Hutch), Trenton Seck (Del), Matt Elsenpeter (WM), Luke Betchwars (SW)
112: Drew Fleming (WM), Lee Goldberg (SW), Sam Braunshausen (Wac), Natalie Rutt (NP)
119: Nate Friederich (MLLC), Aaron Redding (NP), Tyler Zilverberg (SW), Nick Rydell (SP)
125: Dalton Sowers (Del), Zach Friedrich (MLLC), Jacob Siegle (SW), Morgan Parriot (NP)
130: Stephen Delwiche (GSL), Jordan Hansen (Hutch), Mark Dvorak (SW), Joey Stadnick (WM), Eli Stangret (Wac)
135: Ethan Smith (Hutch), Dan Hermann (Wac), Ben Brasket (Del)
140: Alex Jenson (GSL), Joe Hessing (Del)
145: Tyler Kivel (SW), Ryan Madson (Hutch), Max Poikonen (WM), Mike Roth (Del)
152: Cody Manderscheid (Hutch), Jim Wilkins (SP), Taylor Neaton (WM)
160: Jake Bohler (Del), Mike Schlueter (Hutch), Dillon Fogarty (SW), Zach Rutt (MLLC)
171: Connor Fogarty (SW), Jeff Miller (MLLC)
189: Jared Pawelk (Wac), Johnny Krocak (MLLC), Eric Dahl (Del), Justin Nowak (GSL)
215: Pat Brinkman (NU), Brian Broll (Wac), Travis Hentges (SW)
285: Brandon Zabel (SP), Paul Kratzke (ME), Nelson (Del)

Delwiche has been wrestling 130 most of the season, I don't see him changing to 125 where he is 4th or 5th best. Same with Rydell - why 112 with Goldberg and Fleming?
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Looks like 125 and 130 are a train wreck! 160 and 171 not much better. Will be fun to watch...
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A lot of questions should be answered on Friday with Delano, Hutchinson, MLLC and Big Lake at Delano! Anyone want to lay this one out for us? Seeing some top 3 playing out....
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How about Scott West going to KM on Sat with Simley, KM, PEM. Four of the top ranked teams in AA there. Along with NRHEG, Zumbrota-Mazeppa, Wabasha-Kellogg, LARP, JCC, Waseca, Rochester-Mayo. Over 40 ranked wrestlers. That will be a dog fight!
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Jan 27 2009, 07:07 PM
What about Alex Minette (130) from new prague and by Patroit i think you mean Morgan Parriott (125).

yea, I ment Parriott (sorry on the spelling)

I also agree with you on Minnette at 130, I forgot about him and he is also a contender and should be added to the list.

Will we see Broll-Wac @ 189 instead of 215????
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Jan 27 2009, 09:38 PM
Delwiche has been wrestling 130 most of the season, I don't see him changing to 125 where he is 4th or 5th best. Same with Rydell - why 112 with Goldberg and Fleming?

I suggested you move Delwich to 135, not 125. 130 is going to be a lot tougher than 135 with Stangret, Standick, M. Devorak and Minnette.

Rydell has been wreslting 112 and 119. I think he has a better chance to advance at 112 vs. 119 and I would not count him out at 112.

Talor Neaton will be at 160 or 171, not 152.

Then again, its all speculation so we will have to wait and see.
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Did Hutch and New Prague wrestle last night? If they Did an results out there, or score.
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Jan 30 2009, 11:30 AM
Did Hutch and New Prague wrestle last night? If they Did an results out there, or score.

I think the final was 43-27 Hutch, but don't quote me on it.
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Jan 30 2009, 11:30 AM
Did Hutch and New Prague wrestle last night?  If they Did an results out there, or score.

I think the final was 43-27 Hutch, but don't quote me on it.

That is the correct score.
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It looks like Fleming lost to Fiedler. Anyone see that match? That result surprises me.
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it looks like delano isn't the number 2 team anymore, hutch came up and upset them... not really a suprise though, forfieted 3 weights to boot, i think delano may have ff'd 2? i think this will definitely shake up things in the 2AA standings eh?
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Jan 30 2009, 05:25 PM
It looks like Fleming lost to Fiedler. Anyone see that match? That result surprises me.

yeah like 7-3 or something
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I have not seen results for Jared Pawelk from Waconia since the Christmas Tourney. Is he injured? Whats up with him? Anyone...
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4
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Jan 31 2009, 04:27 AM
any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

Bohler was pinned in the first period Rutt put him in a cradle had both legs hooked and Bohler was flat but then got out. And the reason it was so close is because Rutt had a single in the air at the end of the third period and Bohler did something funky and put Rutt to his back. Rutt was truely the better wrestler Mike Schlueter and Dan Brown also beat Bohler he was 0-3 on the night.
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Jan 31 2009, 11:18 AM
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

Bohler was pinned in the first period Rutt put him in a cradle had both legs hooked and Bohler was flat but then got out. And the reason it was so close is because Rutt had a single in the air at the end of the third period and Bohler did something funky and put Rutt to his back. Rutt was truely the better wrestler Mike Schlueter and Dan Brown also beat Bohler he was 0-3 on the night.

Well if the score was 10-9 then Bohler wasnt pinned. Im sure the ref had a much better view than you.
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

Bohler was pinned in the first period Rutt put him in a cradle had both legs hooked and Bohler was flat but then got out. And the reason it was so close is because Rutt had a single in the air at the end of the third period and Bohler did something funky and put Rutt to his back. Rutt was truely the better wrestler Mike Schlueter and Dan Brown also beat Bohler he was 0-3 on the night.

Well if the score was 10-9 then Bohler wasnt pinned. Im sure the ref had a much better view than you.

of course big poppa comin in and throwin his opinion in there ;) ha jk bud
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Im not your bud...pal. :P
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Feb 1 2009, 04:13 AM
Im not your bud...pal. :P

haha :D :) ;)

so big poppa, SW goin to state as a team this year?
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

How did the Zach Frederich (MLLC)- Dalton Sowers (DEL) match turn out?
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Feb 1 2009, 12:28 PM
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

How did the Zach Frederich (MLLC)- Dalton Sowers (DEL) match turn out?

I think Delano forfeited to Nate F. at 119 and MLLC forfeited to Sowers at 125.

Zach did not wrestle against Hutch either.
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

How did the Zach Frederich (MLLC)- Dalton Sowers (DEL) match turn out?

I think Delano forfeited to Nate F. at 119 and MLLC forfeited to Sowers at 125.

Zach did not wrestle against Hutch either.

Thats to bad, i guess we will have to wait till sections.
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Im not your bud...pal.  :P

haha :D :) ;)

so big poppa, SW goin to state as a team this year?

What do you think?
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Im not your bud...pal.  :P

haha :D :) ;)

so big poppa, SW goin to state as a team this year?

What do you think?

my guess is that they will be goin, to good of a lineup not too
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Jan 31 2009, 11:18 AM
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

Bohler was pinned in the first period Rutt put him in a cradle had both legs hooked and Bohler was flat but then got out. And the reason it was so close is because Rutt had a single in the air at the end of the third period and Bohler did something funky and put Rutt to his back. Rutt was truely the better wrestler Mike Schlueter and Dan Brown also beat Bohler he was 0-3 on the night.

Well if the score was 10-9 then Bohler wasnt pinned. Im sure the ref had a much better view than you.

Well he was pretty flat and when your flat I call that a pin.
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