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2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,826 Views)
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What are your thoughts for top 2 at each weight?
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anybody know the match by match results from scott west and lsh? did not see them posted.
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Feb 2 2009, 08:07 PM
What are your thoughts for top 2 at each weight?

I suggest you read the posts on the last couple of pages! Oh, I get it, you have your own predictions you would like to share with your new "G" I. D.! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Give it up!!!
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

Bohler was pinned in the first period Rutt put him in a cradle had both legs hooked and Bohler was flat but then got out. And the reason it was so close is because Rutt had a single in the air at the end of the third period and Bohler did something funky and put Rutt to his back. Rutt was truely the better wrestler Mike Schlueter and Dan Brown also beat Bohler he was 0-3 on the night.

Well if the score was 10-9 then Bohler wasnt pinned. Im sure the ref had a much better view than you.

Well he was pretty flat and when your flat I call that a pin.

Well go through the neccessary steps and become a ref.
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any results from MLLC and Delano and whoever else was involved?

heard rutt (MLLC) beat bohler (Delano) like 10-9 or something like that

and krocak (MLLC) beat Dahl (Delano) like 8-4

Bohler was pinned in the first period Rutt put him in a cradle had both legs hooked and Bohler was flat but then got out. And the reason it was so close is because Rutt had a single in the air at the end of the third period and Bohler did something funky and put Rutt to his back. Rutt was truely the better wrestler Mike Schlueter and Dan Brown also beat Bohler he was 0-3 on the night.

Well if the score was 10-9 then Bohler wasnt pinned. Im sure the ref had a much better view than you.

Well he was pretty flat and when your flat I call that a pin.

Well go through the neccessary steps and become a ref.

i heard thats a tough process
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112 looks to be a deep bracket and so does 145 but 103 in this section is also very deep. Clobes, Seck, Betchwars, Elsenpeter and Hoffman just to name some in no particular order. How about up top, does this section have some guys at 189,215 and 285 that can make noise at the "X"?
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has Natalie Rutt been down to 103?
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Feb 3 2009, 02:27 PM
112 looks to be a deep bracket and so does 145 but 103 in this section is also very deep. Clobes, Seck, Betchwars, Elsenpeter and Hoffman just to name some in no particular order. How about up top, does this section have some guys at 189,215 and 285 that can make noise at the "X"?

Johnny Krocak at 189 has been fun to watch. Will Jared Pawelk be back to challenge for the top nod for 2AA?
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The section definitely has some injuries it is dealing with right now. No one really has said anything about what is wrong with Natalie Rutt, Aaron Redding, Jared Pawelk and Trenton Seck? And they really don't need too. Why give away something like that?

It will be interesting to see who is back for team and individual sections. We're just 16 days for the opening round and quarterfinals at the four high seed sites (Scott West, Hutchinson, Delano and Waconia is my best guess). Team Final Four two days later with individuals again at Delano, which has a very nice wrestling facility. Lots of space.

As for up top LIVEWELL, heavyweight has Brandon Zabel (St. Peter) and Paul Kratzke (Mankato East), 215 has a favorite in Pat Brinkman (New Ulm) and 189 I would say Brian Broll (Waconia) and Johnny Krocak (MLLC).
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Feb 3 2009, 03:44 PM
The section definitely has some injuries it is dealing with right now. No one really has said anything about what is wrong with Natalie Rutt, Aaron Redding, Jared Pawelk and Trenton Seck? And they really don't need too. Why give away something like that?

It will be interesting to see who is back for team and individual sections. We're just 16 days for the opening round and quarterfinals at the four high seed sites (Scott West, Hutchinson, Delano and Waconia is my best guess). Team Final Four two days later with individuals again at Delano, which has a very nice wrestling facility. Lots of space.

As for up top LIVEWELL, heavyweight has Brandon Zabel (St. Peter) and Paul Kratzke (Mankato East), 215 has a favorite in Pat Brinkman (New Ulm) and 189 I would say Brian Broll (Waconia) and Johnny Krocak (MLLC).


Redding was back Sat.
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112 looks to be a deep bracket and so does 145 but 103 in this section is also very deep.  Clobes, Seck, Betchwars, Elsenpeter and Hoffman just to name some in no particular order.  How about up top, does this section have some guys at 189,215 and 285 that can make noise at the "X"?

Johnny Krocak at 189 has been fun to watch. Will Jared Pawelk be back to challenge for the top nod for 2AA?

krocak is looking very well this year and he is my pick at takin the top spot at 189
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Hutch- thanks for the info on the big guys. Looks like this section will do very well in St. Paul.
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Is Mankato east having a tourny this weekend? If so which teams will be there?
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Feb 5 2009, 10:42 AM
Is Mankato east having a tourny this weekend? If so which teams will be there?

Saturday, Feb 7, 2009
Invite 10:00AM At Mankato East

Austin,
Marshall,
Le Sueur-Henderson,
Hayfield,
Lakeville South,
Tomah,
Wayzata
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anyone know anything about Tomah?
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Feb 5 2009, 10:59 AM
anyone know anything about Tomah?

Tomah Wrestling 2008-09 Record
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Overall: 10-2
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MVC: 5-1, 2nd Place
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Last Match: vs. Tomah, L 25-35
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103 -- Kevin Betthauser
* 25-3 record
* 1st Place at Nekoosa Invite & Tomah Scramble
* 2nd Place at 2007 Bi-State Classic
* 2007 State Qualifier, Did Not Place
* Ranked 3rd in D1 according to Wisconsin Wrestling Online
112 -- Zurik Adler
* 21-7 record
* 2nd Place at Nekoosa Invite & 5th at Tomah Scramble
* 8th Place at 2007 Bi-State Classic
119 -- Ian Duncan
* 27-4 record
* 1st Place at Nekoosa Invite & 2nd at Tomah Scramble
* 6th Place at Bi-State Classic
* Honorable Mention in D1 according to Wisconsin Wrestling Online
125 -- Tyler Von Haden or Ethan Adler
* 4-13 record (Von Haden), 4-7 record as of 12.8.07 (Adler)
* 5th Place at Nekoosa & Did Not Place at Bi-State (Von Haden)
* Most likely will see Von Haden at this weight
130 -- Scott Pierce
* 20-8 record
* 4th at Nekoosa Invite & 2nd at Tomah Scramble
* 12th at Bi-State Classic
* 2007 State Qualifier, Did Not Place
* Honorable Mention in D1 according to Wisconsin Wrestling Online
135 -- Zach Taylor
* 16-9 record
* 2nd at Nekoosa Invite & 4th at Tomah Scramble
* 8th at Bi-State Classic
* 2007 State Qualifier, Did Not Place
140 -- Joey Organ
* 19-11 record
* 5th at Nekoosa Invite & 3rd at Tomah Scramble
* 11th Place at Bi-State Classic
145 -- Jacob McGinnis
* 27-1 record
* 1st at Nekoosa Invite, Tomah Scramble & Bi-State Classic
* 2006 State Qualifier, Did Not Place
* 2007 State Qualifier, 2nd Place
* Ranked 2nd in D1 according to Wisconsin Wrestling Online
152 -- Josh Vollmer
* 22-8 record
* 2nd at Nekoosa Invite & 5th at Tomah Scramble
* 8th at Bi-State Classic
160 -- Josh Von Haden or Cole Persons
* 6-8 record (Von Haden), 6-5 record as of 12.8.07 (Persons)
* 5th Place at Nekoosa & Did Not Place at Bi-State (Von Haden)
* 9th Place at Tomah Scramble (Persons)
* Likely bet is Von Haden based on who is wrestling that weight most recently
171 -- Dustin Christner
* 14-12 record
* 4th at Nekoosa Invite & 6th at Tomah Scramble
* Did Not Place at Bi-State Classic
189 -- David Pierce
* 20-8 record
* 3rd at Nekoosa Invite & Tomah Scramble
* Did Not Place at Bi-State Classic
215 -- Derrik Johnson
* 15-12 record
* 6th at Nekoosa Invite & Tomah Scramble
* Did Not Place at Bi-State Classic
285 -- Josh Van Gundy
* 24-5 record
* 2nd at Nekoosa Invite & 1st at Tomah Scramble
* 10th at Bi-State Classic
* Ranked 7th in D1 according to Wisconsin Wrestling Online
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Since the seeding meeting is six days away (I believe), I thought I'd post a projection for the seedings. After tonight's match between Delano and Waconia, I think it is pretty much set.

Four quarterfinal/first round hosts
1. Scott West - No. 4 team in state...enough said.
2. Hutchinson - beat Delano, New Prague, Montgomery-Lonsdale/LeCenter, St. Peter, New Ulm, Mankato East as well as Watertown-Mayer and Glencoe-Silver Lake/Lester Prairie in an individual tournament. Resumes speaks for themselves.
3. Delano - may give Scott West the biggest challenge in the end. Delano lost 36-30, while Hutch fell 42-24. Still, they lost to Hutch.
4. Waconia - could move up to No. 3 with a win tonight over Delano. The Wildcats have some studs but have some holes in the middle of the lineup.

5. New Prague - if the Trojans can get healthy, they could knock off a few teams. Just haven't beaten anybody above them yet.
6. Montgomery-Lonsdale/LeCenter - they have Zach and Nate Friederich, Johnny Krocak, Zack Rutt...that is some serious talent. Could be a good 3/6 match.
7. Watertown-Mayer/Mayer Lutheran - again, some nice wrestlers, but some big holes where they give six.
8. St. Peter - beat New Ulm Jan. 9 33-31 for this spot
9. New Ulm - again, lost to St. Peter, but beat Mankato East at Hutch
10. Mankato East - lost to New Ulm and St. Peter
11. Glencoe-SL - haven't recorded a section win yet

Anybody see it any other way?
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where wil the 5-11 teams go?
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where wil the 5-11 teams go?

No. 5 would wrestle at the No. 4 seed gym
6/11 at No. 3 gym
7/10 at No. 2 gym
8/9 at No. 1 gym

There will be two rounds Feb. 19 and then the final four in Waconia Saturday, Feb. 21.
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Double post

With Delano handling Waconia pretty good (53-21), I believe the 3-4 seeds are now set.

Of note, Seck was back at 103 for the Tigers. Pawelk was also back at 171 for the Wildcats.
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Thanks Hutchfan 13.
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Seck was back last week against MLLC.
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Seck was back last week against MLLC.

Can you post the details of that match up? (Hutch vs MLLC)
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Seck was back last week against MLLC.

Can you post the details of that match up? (Hutch vs MLLC)

this was the first meeting:

103- Matt Lloyd lost by fall to Nick Clobes
112- Josh Selly lost by fall to Tyler Wendorff
119- Nate Friederich won 7-1 over Lucas Ferrian
125- Bobby Rasmussen won by forfeit
130- Tim Eckland lost 2-15 to Jordan Hansen
135- Nathan Rosier lost by fall to Ethan Smith
140- Gus Phillips lost by fall to Anthony Setteraren
145- Evan Ludowese won by forfeit
152- David Misch won by forfeit
160- Cody Hietner lost by fall to Mike Schlueter
171- Jeff Miller won 16-1 over Zach Filk
189- Johnny Krocak won by forfeit
215- Devon Deaeffe lost by fall to Dalton Benage
Hwt- Steve Nieves won by fall over Kyle Ondracek.
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Hutchfan13, you are like an oracle. Very good takes on the team and individual outlook. Going with your top eight seeds, the quarterfinals should roll like this: West over St. Peter; Hutchinson over WMML; Delano over Montogomery-Lonsdale; and Waconia over New Prague. Depending upon the line-ups (injuries and health issues), the Waconia/New Prague tilt could go the other way. The top three seeds seem like clear favorites in the quarterfinals. What do you think? I see Scott West in a yawner in its semifinals and Delano beating Hutch in the other. Although Delano continues to match up the best with West, I don't see the upset happening in the big one. Likewise, if Hutch slides through to the finals, I don't see it having a good shot against the faves. Your thoughts, Oracle.
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Hutchfan13, you are like an oracle. Very good takes on the team and individual outlook. Going with your top eight seeds, the quarterfinals should roll like this: West over St. Peter; Hutchinson over WMML; Delano over Montogomery-Lonsdale; and Waconia over New Prague. Depending upon the line-ups (injuries and health issues), the Waconia/New Prague tilt could go the other way. The top three seeds seem like clear favorites in the quarterfinals. What do you think? I see Scott West in a yawner in its semifinals and Delano beating Hutch in the other. Although Delano continues to match up the best with West, I don't see the upset happening in the big one. Likewise, if Hutch slides through to the finals, I don't see it having a good shot against the faves. Your thoughts, Oracle.

I used to work for the Oracle, Hamline's college newspaper. :)

We see it the same way. It's a five-team race in my mind. Injuries/illnesses will be a big factor Feb. 21. The flip of the coin could also mean one team loses and one wins.

What does everyone think about the two-day format? Personally, love the spotlight it gives to the top four. One day format makes it a long day. Plus it's nice to host a section match for those that earn a top-four seeding.
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Since the seeding meeting is six days away (I believe), I thought I'd post a projection for the seedings. After tonight's match between Delano and Waconia, I think it is pretty much set.

Four quarterfinal/first round hosts
1. Scott West - No. 4 team in state...enough said.
2. Hutchinson - beat Delano, New Prague, Montgomery-Lonsdale/LeCenter, St. Peter, New Ulm, Mankato East as well as Watertown-Mayer and Glencoe-Silver Lake/Lester Prairie in an individual tournament. Resumes speaks for themselves.
3. Delano - may give Scott West the biggest challenge in the end. Delano lost 36-30, while Hutch fell 42-24. Still, they lost to Hutch.
4. Waconia - could move up to No. 3 with a win tonight over Delano. The Wildcats have some studs but have some holes in the middle of the lineup.

5. New Prague - if the Trojans can get healthy, they could knock off a few teams. Just haven't beaten anybody above them yet.
6. Montgomery-Lonsdale/LeCenter - they have Zach and Nate Friederich, Johnny Krocak, Zack Rutt...that is some serious talent. Could be a good 3/6 match.
7. Watertown-Mayer/Mayer Lutheran - again, some nice wrestlers, but some big holes where they give six.
8. St. Peter - beat New Ulm Jan. 9 33-31 for this spot
9. New Ulm - again, lost to St. Peter, but beat Mankato East at Hutch
10. Mankato East - lost to New Ulm and St. Peter
11. Glencoe-SL - haven't recorded a section win yet

Anybody see it any other way?

Just to be devils advocate, let me throw in some possible wrinkles:

1) Is Hutch the #2 seed or can Delano still make a claim to that? The Hutch/Del dual ended in a tie, though criteria went Hutchs way. Lets assume that coaches view this match as a tie, would Hutch still be considered the #2 seed?

2) NP wrestles WML next tues, if WML can pull out a win, would that make WML the 5 seed, NP 6 seed, MLLC 7 seed?

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Since the seeding meeting is six days away (I believe), I thought I'd post a projection for the seedings. After tonight's match between Delano and Waconia, I think it is pretty much set.

Four quarterfinal/first round hosts
1. Scott West - No. 4 team in state...enough said.
2. Hutchinson - beat Delano, New Prague, Montgomery-Lonsdale/LeCenter, St. Peter, New Ulm, Mankato East as well as Watertown-Mayer and Glencoe-Silver Lake/Lester Prairie in an individual tournament. Resumes speaks for themselves.
3. Delano - may give Scott West the biggest challenge in the end. Delano lost 36-30, while Hutch fell 42-24. Still, they lost to Hutch.
4. Waconia - could move up to No. 3 with a win tonight over Delano. The Wildcats have some studs but have some holes in the middle of the lineup.

5. New Prague - if the Trojans can get healthy, they could knock off a few teams. Just haven't beaten anybody above them yet.
6. Montgomery-Lonsdale/LeCenter - they have Zach and Nate Friederich, Johnny Krocak, Zack Rutt...that is some serious talent. Could be a good 3/6 match.
7. Watertown-Mayer/Mayer Lutheran - again, some nice wrestlers, but some big holes where they give six.
8. St. Peter - beat New Ulm Jan. 9 33-31 for this spot
9. New Ulm - again, lost to St. Peter, but beat Mankato East at Hutch
10. Mankato East - lost to New Ulm and St. Peter
11. Glencoe-SL - haven't recorded a section win yet

Anybody see it any other way?

Just to be devils advocate, let me throw in some possible wrinkles:

1) Is Hutch the #2 seed or can Delano still make a claim to that? The Hutch/Del dual ended in a tie, though criteria went Hutchs way. Lets assume that coaches view this match as a tie, would Hutch still be considered the #2 seed?

2) NP wrestles WML next tues, if WML can pull out a win, would that make WML the 5 seed, NP 6 seed, MLLC 7 seed?

Slow day, so I'll throw my two cents in.

1. It's not a tie. It was 36-35 technically. The two teams are a toss up. Could've gone either way at 171 with Bohler and Schlueter. Delano may say we didn't have Seck or someone else, but Hutch could say they were missing a wrestler too.

2 wrestles 3 in the semis, so if I was a coach, I'd go with head-to-head matches and let them decide it Feb. 21 (if they make it there).

2. If they seed next Wednesday, I would hope coaches look out for that Watertown/ML-New Prague matchup.
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