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2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,822 Views)
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eribac
Feb 20 2009, 03:57 PM
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Feb 20 2009, 01:42 PM
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Feb 20 2009, 01:32 PM
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Feb 20 2009, 01:10 PM
So now that that is solved, let's put our ideas together and figure out how NP can take out SW!
Anyone?

we did our part, as once again we wreslted SW last week with the flu bug going through our wrestling room. Maybe we passed one of our little friends along???

Same thing happened last year, but it did not work then, so probably won't this year either.

It could happen!!!

We could move the section semifinals to another school and say we sent an email, they just must not have gotten it!!!

Just a curious question as I have not really follows HS wrestling but, why all the hatred to SW?

What hatred? Obviously you didn't get we were just trying to lighten the mood on this page a little.
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Feb 20 2009, 04:56 PM
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Feb 20 2009, 11:43 AM
For Hutch to win Saturday, they'll need:
Clobes maj over Seck-Yes. Cobes will get 6
Madson pin over Booth-Maybe
Ferrian dec over Drusch-Yes
Hansen to get six at 130-Yes
Smith to major Brasket-No major
Madson maj/pin-Yes
Manderscheid maj/pin-Yes
Schlueter to win at 171-Yes

That would be somewhere between 34 and 38 points and Delano could get 36 with six pins, so Hutch would need either Rasmussen, Anderson or Settergren to stay off their backs.


Cobes will get 6
Madson could pin Booth, but not Drusch
Ferrian can get a dec over Drusch or Booth
Hansen won't get six if its Sowers or Brasket
Smith will not get a major if it is Brasket
Madson can get maj/pin (if it's not Hessing)
Manderscheid can get maj/pin (if it's not Bohler)
Schlueter can win at 171 (if it's not Bohler)

Tyler Wendorff pinned Booth on the 30th, so I'm hoping little Madson can too.
Sowers will be at 125, so Hansen won't wrestle him
Smith beat Brasket 8-0 last time
Madson majored Hessing last time
Manderscheid will wrestle Tisch - that would be the toughest major - he only lost 8-6 to Poikonen Thursday
Schlueter can beat Bohler again, who is clearly struggling as he lost to another solid wrestler Taylor Neaton Thursday

I think it is going to be a really fun match to watch. Hutch will need things to fall into place like it did Jan. 30.

Smith did not major Braskett and Manderscheid had Tisch majored last time with about 30 sec left and got reversed and got put to his back for a two count so he can major him if he wrestles a smart match.
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Good luck guys! I'm sure it will be an exciting day! its going to be fun to watch the little guys fight it out!

Any big matches or rematches to look forward to today?
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Good to see D&C, and W.V.are back, when there is some whining to be done!!! Almost made it, one whole season but just couldn't quite make it.
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Feb 21 2009, 07:40 AM
Good luck guys! I'm sure it will be an exciting day! its going to be fun to watch the little guys fight it out!

Any big matches or rematches to look forward to today?

For the Delano match, Clobes and Seck at 103 will be interesting. Still searching for that No. 2 seed behind Clobes for individuals. I think that team match will come down to bonus poinst for Hutch - will they be able to get enough in the first 10/11 weights?
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Hey hutchfan, do you think hutch can be scottwest?
what would have to happen for that?

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Feb 20 2009, 04:07 PM

IMONTOPSTEP.....not a bit of frustration here, I am a fan of wrestling....and GOOD coaches do need motivation techniques.....GREAT coaches gain the trust of their athletes and the athletes know what is expected of them!


"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate."
Vince Lombardi


I guess Lombardi was just a "GOOD coach"!
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Feb 21 2009, 11:17 AM
Hey hutchfan, do you think hutch can be scottwest?
what would have to happen for that?

The reason Hutch can beat Delano is that they won 8 of the first 11 matches the first time. Sowers is the best 125 and Roth is better than Settergren at 140 (Hutch could bump up at 125 and then there is a toss up match at 130 with Hansen at 135, Smith at 140).

The thing with Scott West is that they are strong where Hutch is strong. Goldberg, Zilverberg, Siegle, Mark Dvorak, Fogartys and Kivel are all at places where Hutch needs some bonus points.

Madson would need to beat Kivel, Smith or Hansen would need to beat Dvorak and Manderscheid would need six at 152. Plus the lower weights (112 and 125) would need to stay off their backs. Hutch needs a really good day to get to state.

Then again, the girls' hockey team was a decided underdog Thursday against top seed and No. 9 ranked Mankato West and they won 5-1. Anything can happen in the playoffs! Is it 5 yet?
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Feb 21 2009, 11:22 AM
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Feb 20 2009, 04:07 PM

IMONTOPSTEP.....not a bit of frustration here, I am a fan of wrestling....and GOOD coaches do need motivation techniques.....GREAT coaches gain the trust of their athletes and the athletes know what is expected of them!


"Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate."
Vince Lombardi


I guess Lombardi was just a "GOOD coach"!

Guys,

You have to remember when you read this stuff........This is mostly just parents of wrestlers or indvidual wrestlers throwing out their opinion. It may NOT be the coaches of our wrestling teams opinions. It is not always their quotes about "wrestling a revenge match" and may not have the teams backing. It could be just individual parents and wrestlers blowing off their opinion to what "they think". The parents are not in the practice room, they do not see or hear the motivation behind the way the coaches handle day to day practice. The imput they have is from their wrestler, and depending on the wrestler (and their age and dispostion) it could be percieved differently from one kid to another. Many wrestling coaches read and watch these forums, but may not actually go on and on with the verbal volleyball matches that end up here between rival teams. It makes for some good reading, but it should not reflect on how one team is percieved to think as a whole. Its maybe how one parent or wrestler feels. We could now go into some sectional matches with extra grudges because of some of this stuff said. Are we really helping our wrestlers in this way???
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Feb 21 2009, 12:18 PM
You have to remember when you read this stuff........This is just parents of wrestlers or indvidual wrestlers throwing out their opinion. It is NOT the coaches

You sure about that?
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Feb 21 2009, 12:45 PM
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Feb 21 2009, 12:18 PM
You have to remember when you read this stuff........This is just parents of wrestlers or indvidual wrestlers throwing out their opinion.  It is NOT the coaches

You sure about that?

I agree with you crusader wrestling. I know for a fact this is not true... :ph43r:
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Feb 21 2009, 12:51 PM
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Feb 21 2009, 12:45 PM
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Feb 21 2009, 12:18 PM
You have to remember when you read this stuff........This is just parents of wrestlers or indvidual wrestlers throwing out their opinion.  It is NOT the coaches

You sure about that?

I agree with you crusader wrestling. I know for a fact this is not true... :ph43r:

I modified my post. If you two guys say so, then I believe you. The rest of the post still makes the point about "what some are percieving as the way some of our wrestling teams run things.....aka revenge wins etc". It can be one Dad vs another Dad but not the teams thinking. Thanks for the coach imput.
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Is somebody going to be there that will be able to give up to the second updates?!?! cause that would be really nice
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Go to radio station Kchk. They will have a radio broadcast of it. Here is their websight:

http://www.kchkradio.net/


Click on the steaming events button. They will be broadcasting the Waconia matches. I hope this helps!
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thanks
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Feb 21 2009, 02:34 PM
Go to radio station Kchk. They will have a radio broadcast of it. Here is their websight:

http://www.kchkradio.net/


Click on the steaming events button. They will be broadcasting the Waconia matches. I hope this helps!

I think the link is messed up. It's womens hockey......had a hard time figuring it out what it was at first... :huh:
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anyone have any updates??
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Score for SW and NP?
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SW 44 and NP 15. Scott West beats Delano 49 to 13. Scott West is smoken hot !!!!
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May I add that your very first line of your first post was right on the money. Good job on that prediction. :D
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what was the score of the Delano Hutch match?!?!
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33 Delano 32 Hutch. Hutch was up by 17 going into 189 but the last 3 weight were all 1st period sticks by Delano.
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wow kind of a suprise there...
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Feb 21 2009, 11:26 PM
May I add that your very first line of your first post was right on the money. Good job on that prediction. :D

Thanks but it was to easy, ya see SW is a wrestling program! Everyone else in our section is just a team. Yes some teams do better than others but no one else has a program.. ITS ALL SO EASY TO SEE I could go on but no need to Congrats to SCOTTWEST
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Feb 22 2009, 01:49 AM
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Feb 21 2009, 11:26 PM
May I add that your very first line of your first post was right on the money. Good job on that prediction.  :D

Thanks but it was to easy, ya see SW is a wrestling program! Everyone else in our section is just a team. Yes some teams do better than others but no one else has a program.. ITS ALL SO EASY TO SEE I could go on but no need to Congrats to SCOTTWEST

There is an Ian Fleming/James Bond movie called "Never Say Never Again". You just inched close to saying never. Fun stuff.
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Delano......New Prague......Hutchinson......... they are each a TEAM from one town.

NOT a two town combination (Scott West) with some transpants like the Dvoraks from New Prague or Kivel from Prior Lake. Let Belle Plaine or Jordan stand alone and lets then see their "Program" . We are proud to be a "ONE TOWN TEAM" that stands up by itself.
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Feb 22 2009, 01:38 AM
Delano......New Prague......Hutchinson......... they are each a TEAM from one town.

NOT a two town combination (Scott West) with some transpants like the Dvoraks from New Prague or Kivel from Prior Lake. Let Belle Plaine or Jordan stand alone and lets then see their "Program" . We are proud to be a "ONE TOWN TEAM" that stands up by itself.

This topis has been broughten up time after time....

Jordan and Belle Plaine/HF Academy combined there programs to save a sport...would you rather have had them not combine and both schools lose the wrestling program?

Plus Jordan and Belle Plaine's enrollment put together probably equals around Hutchinson, New Prague's, or Delano's...it's not like Jordan and BP are huge schools.

And yes, Scott West is ONE TEAM!

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Feb 22 2009, 01:38 AM
Delano......New Prague......Hutchinson......... they are each a TEAM from one town.

NOT a two town combination (Scott West) with some transpants like the Dvoraks from New Prague or Kivel from Prior Lake. Let Belle Plaine or Jordan stand alone and lets then see their "Program" . We are proud to be a "ONE TOWN TEAM" that stands up by itself.

Irrelevant to my post!!
And I guess Pat LaVessur was born in Hutch, I'll just bet every team you mentioned has had someone transfer in before the rule changed or before that. so quit crying
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holdyourbreathtilitsover.... Don't post again til you know what your talking about... Dvoraks are transplanted? ... I guess another uneducated postee... Jealousy or envy? ... You may not like Scott West but you should atleast give props where they are due. The kids wrestle hard and train hard so why all the negativity? I smell a sore loser.....
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Feb 22 2009, 05:01 AM
You may not like Scott West but you should atleast give props where they are due. The kids wrestle hard and train hard so why all the negativity? I smell a sore loser.....


BPwrestling dad is correct, yub is also correct and man, can't believe I'm going to say this, Big Poppa is correct. (have I said that a couple of time this year BigPoppa?

If you understand wrestling, you can see the difference in the scott west kids and many of thier opponents. Why? They trian hard, which is why they wrestle hard. They are always in good defensive postion (head and body) they are always working to improve thier postion wether they are on thier feet, top or bottom. I saw serveral matches, where the favorite either lost to a SW wrestler or could not score bonus points. I saw this last year and this year and the only difference is different wrestlers. As Bigpoppa would say, SW justs reload or to yubs point, SW is a program not a team.

Here's the thing people, if SW can do it, other teams/program can do the same. They don't have anything special in thier water in BP or Jordon. Thier wrestlers are not more gifted and talented than wrestlers from other communities, though there are a few freaks like kivel. Sure they get a few move ins from time to time, why is that a bad thing? Other communities get move ins too, so becasue a wrestling family picks a community with a strong wrestling traditions to move into, this is a bad thing?

BPwrestling dad is correct, give credit where credit is due. Everyone in 2AA should give Scott West props, as they are once again they are best team in 2AA and will be an excellent representitive in the state tournament. Also props to thier fans for the wonderful support they provide the team. Congratulations Scott West and best of luck at the Xcel.

Now onto to the individuals next week in Delano! Should be a fun weekend.
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