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2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,819 Views)
sitandspin Feb 23 2009, 08:21 PM Post #751
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Feb 23 2009, 08:17 PM
Hey sitandspin.....being a former "Valley Boy" all this transfer, recruit talk must have you feeling right at home! :lol:

To bad they are not talking about our transfers. We still got time though. I have a few trips planned to the bigger tournaments this summer, a roll of dollar bills and a spare bedroom.
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MinterMagic Feb 23 2009, 08:22 PM Post #752
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 As usual.....Great Gramma with another insightful post!
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MinterMagic Feb 23 2009, 08:26 PM Post #753
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 All kidding aside, those boys from Scott west can bring it...... What a classy group of kids as well, I got a chance to talk to a few of them on Saturday and was very impressed!
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CC SportsGuy Feb 23 2009, 09:20 PM Post #754
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 Friday: 4:30 - first three rounds
Saturday: 11:00 - everything else
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chickenlittle Feb 23 2009, 10:14 PM Post #755
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 Predictions ANYONE?!?!?! I'm sick of hearing about Scott West they won our Section get over it and move on in life... On the flip side Congrats to Scott West and hopefully they can pull off the ultimate upset in 2AA and beat Simely!
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underrated Feb 23 2009, 10:46 PM Post #756
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Feb 23 2009, 10:14 PM
Predictions ANYONE?!?!?! I'm sick of hearing about Scott West they won our Section get over it and move on in life... On the flip side Congrats to Scott West and hopefully they can pull off the ultimate upset in 2AA and beat Simely!

predictions against simley?!?! here is one for ya, scott west will not be beating simley. i see this one in a landslide goin simleys way
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crusader wrestling Feb 24 2009, 12:05 AM Post #757
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Feb 23 2009, 10:46 PM
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Feb 23 2009, 10:14 PM
Predictions ANYONE?!?!?! I'm sick of hearing about Scott West they won our Section get over it and move on in life... On the flip side Congrats to Scott West and hopefully they can pull off the ultimate upset in 2AA and beat Simely!

predictions against simley?!?! here is one for ya, scott west will not be beating simley. i see this one in a landslide goin simleys way

i don't think it will be a land slide.

i think SW has 5-6 wins in them.

You never know.
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wrestling father 1 Feb 24 2009, 06:37 AM Post #758
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 Tough draw for a couple local teams: Scott West gets Simley and Lake Crystal/WM get KMS, both number one seeds, ouch! Wrestle tough guys!!!!!!!!!!
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!!!!! Feb 24 2009, 08:06 AM Post #759
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 Wow, the last 8 posts have been very informative. Thanks guys.
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crusader wrestling Feb 24 2009, 08:55 AM Post #760
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Feb 24 2009, 08:06 AM
Wow, the last 8 posts have been very informative.  Thanks guys.

And you certainly have enlightened all of us with your last post
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!!!!! Feb 24 2009, 09:03 AM Post #761
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 Kind of set myself up for that one, didn't I?!?!
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Jared Feb 24 2009, 10:31 AM Post #762
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Feb 23 2009, 11:55 AM
The fact is: Section 2AA is tough!! Delano and Hutch are probably the only 2 non co-op teams that have been able to compete.

I guess I'm really not understanding this but I think you should include New Prague in that sentence. Not exactly sure what you are tring to get at but how many transfers have New Prague had in the last couple years, well last 10 years for that? They had like 5 transfer out but very few transfer in. Now with the new coaches its a whole new team, I look forward to the future what will happen.
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Jared Feb 24 2009, 10:51 AM Post #763
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Feb 23 2009, 04:12 PM
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Feb 23 2009, 01:06 PM
How many kids are from Jordan and how many kids are from Belle Plaine, and could they exist on their own today.

Not sure on the total number of kids in both programs but I know that if they split up today it would not be pretty.

Both teams would struggle to field a whole line up. I would say both teams would have at least 4 forfeits.

Scott West has had a string of great wrestlers move up through the youth program. A couple of them quit along the way. But believe it or not, not all of Scott Wests good wrestlers are transfers. Dan Zilverberg, and all of the youth coaching staff and dedicated parents helped mold most of the good wrestlers. As far as the John, Mark and Scott Dvorak, they have many family ties in Scott West. It only made sense for them to wrestle with their cousins. If you had the chance to wrestle with your family on a good team wouldnt you take that.

I'll touch on this subject for a little while since I was in favor of Scott West splitting back in the day. The truth is Belle Plaine could split and probably fill all the weights, but would struggle with wins. Jordan could not afford to split up since there are like 5 wrestlers on the team from that town and very few JV'ers.

To touch a little bit more on this John Dvorak thing, John open enrolled to wrestle for Scott West because he did all his summer wrestling with the Scott West wrestlers. He was over in Belle Plaine wrestling more then in New Prague wrestling, Coach Zilverberg, with coach Stauf excelled John an extra level and he thought it was only fare to wrestle with them during the school year too. I'm not going to go into the coaching but if New Prague had coaches in 2005 like they do now, I don't think the Dvorak transfer would have happened. It’s all about coaches that care.
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truthhurts Feb 24 2009, 10:57 AM Post #764
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Feb 23 2009, 07:54 AM
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Feb 23 2009, 01:31 AM
At the risk of beating a dead horse, I want to go back to the Scott West discussion for just a second.

How many wrestlers are in the program? How many from each school? combined enrollment from the three schools is 903. Under the current enrollment numbers, Belle Plaine would be one of the smaller Class AA schools, Jordan would be one of the biggest Class A schools.

I know when Belle Plaine and Jordan combined in the late '80s, it was done to save wrestling at those schools. The combined team was "competitive" with other MRC schools at the time. They have since been booted from the MRC for wrestling because of their dominance.

I think it would be interesting to see how these two schools would do on their own.

And yes, some of the Dvoraks are from New Prague...The older three brothers all wrestled for New Prague and so did the fourth, but he open enrolled to Jordan for his junior year, and the little brothers followed. And I'm pretty sure each of the Dvorak daughters (all five of them) were wrestling cheerleaders at New Prague.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IU1bzZheWk

Please check this out
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underrated Feb 24 2009, 11:49 AM Post #765
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Feb 23 2009, 10:14 PM
Predictions ANYONE?!?!?! I'm sick of hearing about Scott West they won our Section get over it and move on in life... On the flip side Congrats to Scott West and hopefully they can pull off the ultimate upset in 2AA and beat Simely!

predictions against simley?!?! here is one for ya, scott west will not be beating simley. i see this one in a landslide goin simleys way

i don't think it will be a land slide.

i think SW has 5-6 wins in them.

You never know.

they can get 5-6 wins, but everything has to go their way. simley is stacked up and down the whole line up. I like Scott West, and wish them the best of luck but simley is tough as nails
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Jared Feb 24 2009, 11:57 AM Post #766
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 I'll give it a shot-

Scott West vs. Simley

103- Torres (S) Maj. Betchwars 4-0
112- Goldberg (SW) dec. Wright 4-3
119- Zilverberg (SW) dec. Short 4-6
125- Dick (S) dec. Seigle 7-6
130- Glenn (S) TF F. Dvorak 12-6
135- M. Dvorak (SW) Maj. Wanzek 12-10
140- Anderson (S) maj. P. Dvorak 16-10
145- Barnes (S) Fall Hentges 22-10
152- Kivel (SW) dec. Julson 22-13
160- D. Fogerty (SW) dec Hoffner 22-16
171- C. Fogerty (SW) dec Morgan 22- 19
189- Berg (S) maj. Kroells 26-19
215- Hentges (SW) dec. Lahomb 26- 22
HWT- Gehlaye (S) dec. Koepp 29-22 Simley


Pretty much this whole match will have some toss up matches, like all the ones that are in bold. I think Simley is favored in probaly most of them but I think Scott West can win all of those. No question Scott West can keep it close but it will be a tall order for them to win it.
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underrated Feb 24 2009, 12:03 PM Post #767
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I'll give it a shot-

Scott West vs. Simley

103- Torres (S) Maj. Betchwars 4-0
112- Goldberg (SW) dec. Wright 4-3
119- Zilverberg (SW) dec. Short 4-6
125- Dick (S) dec. Seigle 7-6
130- Glenn (S) TF F. Dvorak 12-6
135- M. Dvorak (SW) Maj. Wanzek 12-10
140- Anderson (S) maj. P. Dvorak 16-10
145- Barnes (S) Fall Hentges 22-10
152- Kivel (SW) dec. Julson 22-13
160- D. Fogerty (SW) dec Hoffner 22-16
171- C. Fogerty (SW) dec Morgan 22- 19
189- Berg (S) maj. Kroells 26-19
215- Hentges (SW) dec. Lahomb 26- 22
HWT- Gehlaye (S) dec. Koepp 29-22 Simley


Pretty much this whole match will have some toss up matches, like all the ones that are in bold. I think Simley is favored in probaly most of them but I think Scott West can win all of those. No question Scott West can keep it close but it will be a tall order for them to win it.

Gonna be some exciting matches thats for sure. Again the best of luck to SW and i hope they are able to win those close wins
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Jared Feb 24 2009, 12:36 PM Post #768
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 Also a tall order will be to get Zilverberg to 119? Is that even possible? Well if he can't get in there then Gabe Fogerty will have all he can handle to not get pinned against Short.
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CC SportsGuy Feb 25 2009, 06:52 PM Post #769
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 Wow, a whole day-plus of no talk during sections week...bump
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chickenlittle Feb 25 2009, 10:35 PM Post #770
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 wow boys we let this get to the second page pretty lame... bump
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The Great Gamma Feb 25 2009, 10:44 PM Post #771
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 Only thing left to discuss are injury's, illness, and weight issues. And of course, who beat who breakdowns.
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chickenlittle Feb 26 2009, 06:50 AM Post #772
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 24 hrs boys!!!!
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wrestling father 1 Feb 26 2009, 06:53 AM Post #773
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Feb 26 2009, 06:50 AM
24 hrs boys!!!!

Actually if i was Shane , I would have to correct you and say there's, 33 1/2 hours left. LOL can't wait
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CC SportsGuy Feb 26 2009, 07:47 AM Post #774
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Only thing left to discuss are injury's, illness, and weight issues. And of course, who beat who breakdowns.

Eighth-grader Eric Madson will be at 112 for Hutch. That's all I got. Sitting back waiting for the storm of the century to hit!!!
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wrestling father 1 Feb 26 2009, 09:12 AM Post #775
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Only thing left to discuss are injury's, illness, and weight issues. And of course, who beat who breakdowns.

Eighth-grader Eric Madson will be at 112 for Hutch. That's all I got. Sitting back waiting for the storm of the century to hit!!!

I take it seeds are done tonight? you seem to be in the know, anyway theses will be posted before fight night on Friday? Thanks
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blabla Feb 26 2009, 09:22 AM Post #776
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 Just to let everyone know, the seeding meeting has been postpone to Friday morning, Due to the storm!!
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wrestling father 1 Feb 26 2009, 09:23 AM Post #777
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Just to let everyone know, the seeding meeting has been postpone to Friday morning, Due to the storm!!

Thanks for the info
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3/4 Neilson Feb 26 2009, 09:26 AM Post #778
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Feb 26 2009, 09:22 AM
Just to let everyone know, the seeding meeting has been postpone to Friday morning, Due to the storm!!

What storm.......the STORM doesn't till Saturday.....and it is isolated in Delano :D
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Iowa guy Feb 26 2009, 10:52 AM Post #779
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 Solid representation from 2AA on the new rankings.

Class AA Individual Ratings

103 pounds
2. Nick Clobes, Hutchinson (2), 9

112 pounds
1. Drew Fleming, Watertown-Mayer/Lutheran (2), 11
3. Lee Goldberg, Scott West (2), 11

119 pounds
3. Nate Friederich, Montgomery-Lonsdale/Le Center (2), 12
8. Aaron Redding, New Prague (2), 12

125 pounds
5. Dalton Sowers, Delano (2), 11
6. Zach Friederich, Montgomery-Lonsdale/Le Center (2), 10
7. Jake Siegle, Scott West (2), 10

130 pounds
7. Eli Stangret, Waconia (2), 12

135 pounds
9. Mark Dvorak, Scott West (2), 12

140 pounds
5. Joe Hessing, Delano (2), 11

145 pounds
1. Tyler Kivel, Scott West (2), 12
2. Ryan Madson, Hutchinson (2), 12
6. Max Poikonen, Watertown-Mayer/Lutheran (2), 11

152 pounds
9. Cody Manderscheid, Hutchinson (2), 12

160 pounds
6. Dillon Fogarty, Scott West (2), 12
8. Zach Rutt, Montgomery-Lonsdale/Le Center (2), 10

171 pounds
7. Jared Pawelk, Waconia (2), 12
10. Connor Fogarty, Scott West (2), 12

189 pounds
6. John Krocak, Montgomery-Lonsdale/Le Center (2), 12

215 pounds
2. Pat Brinkman, New Ulm (2), 11
4. Brian Broll, Waconia (2), 12

285 pounds
4. Brandon Zabel, Saint Peter (2), 12
6. Paul Kratzke, Mankato East (2), 12
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crusader wrestling Feb 26 2009, 10:54 AM Post #780
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Feb 26 2009, 09:22 AM
Just to let everyone know, the seeding meeting has been postpone to Friday morning, Due to the storm!!

Gees, now what am I going to do this evening? I cleared my schedule this evening, picked up a six pack already, was ready to stay up late tonight online, arm chair quarterbacking all the seeds/match ups. I feel like I have been robbed!!!

Looks like I will just have to go and shovel my driveway 2-3 times tonight instead.
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