Ride Hard Boy

Jul 27 2009, 11:18 PM

You aimed this topic towards 2AA when it should be it's own topic and I would take offense if I were a coach in this section.
You keep saying your not just blaming it on the coachs, but then you make statements like this:

Who am I to say, well I don't have to be anyone to voice my opinion. But I do know a lot of the kids and parents in our section and through the state and region. I have been watching them wrestle since they we're little kids. In town, state, and national tournys ,Many of the parents and I have spoken about the same problems in some programs through out the years. Like lowering the expectation in the wrestling room to the kid that might quits level. Or telling a kid to cut to a weight and just saying oh you can do it, but not giving the kid a nutritional guide lines or plan to fallow. To me thats who is in charges responsibility, and I just don;t get that... And in my opinion there are some like I said who are safe in their job and just rollin along.

Do you really think problems like this are new or getting worse or were they there 10, 15, etc. years ago?
I think years ago coachs were probably alot tougher on the kids than they are now and have heard weight cutting horror stories. I don't think they were handing out nutritional plans to anyone years ago, and in this aspect I hope things are getting better.
There's always going to be better more dedicated coachs in some programs, stronger programs, they have changed throughout the years as coachs have come and gone.
Maybe kids need to also be responsible for their own success and will learn a more valuble lesson. I think they have it much easier now than in the past and far more opportunities than any of us ever had.  The private programs (Pinnacle etc., the many advantages MN/USA wrestling and other programs are offering statewide.

13887

Jul 27 2009, 06:28 PM

John179? Big Whoop? Maybe your right that 2nd place isnt nothing, but from where I come from it is? Its called building a team! Are you some kind of a state or national champion? Or do you just follow success? Its better to be a leader.....not a follower?

yub

Jul 28 2009, 01:19 AM

Ride Hard Boy

Jul 27 2009, 11:35 PM

YUB said-Well for the past 15 years a group of us have been setting up camps and clinics most of them for free with hall of fame coaches, wrestlers, state and national champions, Olympians and world champions and place winners. As well as running tournys, recruiting for and helping to set up private clubs as well as driving kids all over the country so they can experience all that wrestling has to offer. Other than that I've just gripped a lot

So in the next couple years we can look forward to WM taking out SW then?

Ride Hard Boy
We have not work with just WM/ML kids, We do what we can to help any kids that have wanted the help, from Waconia, Mound, Delano, Howard Lake, Minnetonka, Lester Prairie, Glencoe, Hutch, and all over the area. So I can't say any of the teams whos kids come out or we are able to help will be taking out SW. You asked what I've been doing so I told you, Yet you hiding behind a fake name come back at me like I said something about "taking out SW" WOW.
I told everyone my opinion and didn't hide who I am and you can't take it. (whom ever you are) I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone else but at least I spoke as myself, and what I thought and think based on my observations. Sorry I didn't sugar coat it so everyone with thin skin could handle it. Opinions usually don't hurt so bad unless there is some truth to them.

Obsessed With Wrestling

Jul 28 2009, 06:41 AM

yub

Jul 28 2009, 01:19 AM

Ride Hard Boy

Jul 27 2009, 11:35 PM

YUB said-Well for the past 15 years a group of us have been setting up camps and clinics most of them for free with hall of fame coaches, wrestlers, state and national champions, Olympians and world champions and place winners. As well as running tournys, recruiting for and helping to set up private clubs as well as driving kids all over the country so they can experience all that wrestling has to offer. Other than that I've just gripped a lot

So in the next couple years we can look forward to WM taking out SW then?

Ride Hard Boy
We have not work with just WM/ML kids, We do what we can to help any kids that have wanted the help, from Waconia, Mound, Delano, Howard Lake, Minnetonka, Lester Prairie, Glencoe, Hutch, and all over the area. So I can't say any of the teams whos kids come out or we are able to help will be taking out SW. You asked what I've been doing so I told you, Yet you hiding behind a fake name come back at me like I said something about "taking out SW" WOW.
I told everyone my opinion and didn't hide who I am and you can't take it. (whom ever you are) I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone else but at least I spoke as myself, and what I thought and think based on my observations. Sorry I didn't sugar coat it so everyone with thin skin could handle it. Opinions usually don't hurt so bad unless there is some truth to them.

I'm just curious who you have worked with from Hutch because if your refering to "the shed", we've been with the Hutch program for awhile and don't know anyone who has ever been there that you can claim you've worked with. I know a couple years ago ours was invited once, but has never gone. Just wondering.

buttkickers

Jul 29 2009, 10:58 AM

13887, Tell me or show me why Scott West wouldn't be the #1 seed in section 2AA.
They have a solid team with great depth for injuries or whatever else. Placing number 2 one year is great but you could be losing all of your studs due to graduation therefore your not building your team your rebuilding your team the following year. Good luck on getting second place that next year.

13887

Jul 29 2009, 04:28 PM

buttkickers

Jul 29 2009, 10:58 AM

13887, Tell me or show me why Scott West wouldn't be the #1 seed in section 2AA.
They have a solid team with great depth for injuries or whatever else. Placing number 2 one year is great but you could be losing all of your studs due to graduation therefore your not building your team your rebuilding your team the following year. Good luck on getting second place that next year.

I know we would do better than Faribault? Wanna bet Joe?

BigPoppa11

Aug 26 2009, 12:57 PM

I heard that Scott West was splitting up.

IMONTOPSTEP

Aug 26 2009, 04:09 PM

BigPoppa11

Aug 26 2009, 12:57 PM

I heard that Scott West was splitting up.

What do you mean Big Poppa - do you mean the kids that are not from Scott West are going to go back to their original towns??

buttkickers

Aug 27 2009, 08:02 AM

They're creating two teams Scott West 1 and Scott West 2 this way they can get the gold and silver in section 2aa.

wrosier

Aug 24 2009, 06:15 AM

:D
Rumor has it Scott West has picked up a former 4A wrestler that weighs in around 135-145 range.

Bigpoppa any insight here ?

13887

Aug 27 2009, 08:46 PM

buttkickers

Aug 27 2009, 08:02 AM

They're creating two teams Scott West 1 and Scott West 2 this way they can get the gold and silver in section 2aa.

3rd is better than what Faribault will do in their section, right?

3/4 Neilson

Aug 31 2009, 09:52 PM

wrosier

Aug 24 2009, 06:15 AM

:D
Rumor has it Scott West has picked up a former 4A wrestler that weighs in around 135-145 range.

Bigpoppa any insight here ?

Ya, and I heard a former 4A is going to MLLC. :huh:

BigPoppa11

Sep 17 2009, 06:28 PM

I heard someone from Scott West wont be going out this year.

BigPoppa11

Sep 18 2009, 12:16 PM

No its a super duper secret. :P

buttkickers

Aug 27 2009, 08:02 AM

They're creating two teams Scott West 1 and Scott West 2 this way they can get the gold and silver in section 2aa.

asic

Sep 20 2009, 07:45 PM

buttkickers

Aug 27 2009, 08:02 AM

They're creating two teams Scott West 1 and Scott West 2 this way they can get the gold and silver in section 2aa.

haha i could see this happening. ive seen them put to teams in one turny befor