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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,841 Views) | |
| 3/4 Neilson | Sep 4 2008, 09:05 PM Post #91 |
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Well Cledis, you did pick Nate to come in short again; Cletis pick; 125aa Top Ten 1. Dave Fradette, 12th, Milaca, (7) 2. Nate Friederich, 12th, Montgomery Lonsdale, (2) 3. Garrett Garness, 10th, Kasson-Mantorville, (1) 4. Zach Campbell, 10th, Tracy-Milroy-Balaton, (3) 5. Kyle LeDuc, 11th, Thief River Falls, (8) 6. Eli Stangret, 12th, Waconia, (2) 7. Micah Barnes, 9th, Simley, (4) 8. Kyle Salonek, 11th, STMA, (5) 9. Ben Swanson, 11th, PEM, (1) 10. Sam Haas, 9th, Lac qui Parle Valley, (3) |
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| truthhurts | Sep 8 2008, 09:01 PM Post #92 |
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Thats great ! |
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| IMONTOPSTEP | Sep 16 2008, 02:18 PM Post #93 |
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Not much has been mentioned about Waconia - I beleive that they have a shot at beating Scott West in 2AA - they lost very few wrestlers, and had a stong team last year. Does anyone have a potential line-up for Waconia or Waconia vs SW |
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| The Great Gamma | Sep 16 2008, 03:43 PM Post #94 |
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Go ahead and throw it out their for us TopStep... They got Stangret, Pawelk and Broll for the Stars. Want to fill in the blanks for us? |
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| IMONTOPSTEP | Sep 17 2008, 08:43 AM Post #95 |
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I don't know much about them - other then they seemed to have very few seniors last year, and a 103 pounder that seemed OK - no section placer, but seemed to hold his own. Stangret will hold his own - seems like he cut a lot last year for his size - can it hold it again for senior year 119? - has the body for 140? |
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| truthhurts | Sep 17 2008, 01:24 PM Post #96 |
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They also have Dan Herman at 135-140 and Dacota Hart 215-Hvt. Braumhuasen I think will be to big to make 103 . Maybe thats enough to get them over the hump we"ll see . Delano still seems to be a favorite along with S.W. ,MLLC , Hutch , and WT/M/ML this section shoul be very competitive |
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| greenmachine | Sep 18 2008, 10:26 AM Post #97 |
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Scott West & Delano appear to be the frontrunners. They will both have solid lineups where others might have holes. Scott West would be my guess yet again. |
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| Iowa guy | Sep 18 2008, 10:34 AM Post #98 |
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greenmachine, What is your line-up for Scott West? |
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| cledis | Sep 18 2008, 11:49 AM Post #99 |
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yeah cuz im sure Fradette is just as hungry for that state title too |
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| wrosier | Sep 26 2008, 10:22 AM Post #100 |
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Who was the 2AA wrestler that almost beat thorn at state last year?? I thought he had thorn pinned but the ref didn't see it that way?? |
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| The Great Gamma | Sep 26 2008, 10:50 AM Post #101 |
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Well both Timmermann and Jindra wrestled him last year at state. What's you point? |
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| BigPoppa11 | Sep 26 2008, 10:29 PM Post #102 |
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You're talking about Timmerman. |
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| firemans11 | Sep 27 2008, 01:09 PM Post #103 |
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Ok, I am no cledis, but here is my top ten teams: 1. Simley, just too tough all the way around. Could give Valley a match. 2. STMA is a solid team with depth and history. Plus most of the team has been wrestling year round. 3. PEM 4.Scott West, has enough coming back to be a top team 5. Foley 6. Totino-Grace surprise, only to those outside of region 5AA. They had a young team last year and many returning kids. 7. Thief River 8. Adrian 9. Big Lake 10. Milaca, rich in traditon, but lost seven seniors, time to see what kind of feeder program they have. but none the less a top ten team. Remember this is a preseason ranking...... |
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| wrosier | Sep 28 2008, 06:37 AM Post #104 |
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;) Point being Gamma, Is that everyone says Thorn is unbeatable and he was on his back for quite a while there while Timmerman was waiting for the call that never came. I think there is a video of that Timmerman/Thorn match on youtube. I think that if you are on your "game" and your opponent has a "off" day you can beat anyone. There ain't no such thing as a "Superman", only just dedicated wrestlers working for the moment. If you believe someone is unbeatable then the match is over before the ref blows the whistle. Personally, I think that is why many wrestle, to see if they can beat the "unbeatable". Can you remember a greater thrill than the moment you realized you had won a game/match against a better opponent? That "rush" is what makes most wrestlers compete and it it completely legal !! That being said, I think 2AA has many fine wrestlers and look forward to seeing some fine matches along with a few upsets. |
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| Iowa guy | Sep 29 2008, 10:51 PM Post #105 |
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bump :mellow: |
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| yub | Oct 3 2008, 09:57 AM Post #106 |
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Back to section 2 AA now that we are getting closer to the season . After a summer of talking to different people . Delano may be the top pre-season team then Scottwest they always seem to put it together . After that Hutch, WT/M/ML ,& MLLC they could all step it up also . In no specific order for the next 3 but I think any of the top five could take the section . Alot of things could happen befor and during the season injurys ect.... The coaching staffs will all have there work cut out for them .We will see whom is really up to the task at hand .Who can motivate ,instruct ,manage. & trully get the most out of thier teams . And who really is not up to the job and maybe needs to go . |
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| The Great Gamma | Oct 3 2008, 10:19 AM Post #107 |
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WOW Yub... Almost sounds like you are giving warning to some coaches out there? :unsure: |
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| yub | Oct 3 2008, 11:53 AM Post #108 |
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Sorry I know what I said sure sounded that way its just a simple observation ment as a ? Not a warning. or anything eles I should have put it in a different way . |
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| Iowa guy | Oct 5 2008, 12:24 PM Post #109 |
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Yub- I just went through the line-up for Delano....I don't see it happening. Please show me the light. |
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| yub | Oct 5 2008, 08:02 PM Post #110 |
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I just think with the amount of returning letterman and team expierence they have is solid . They made it to the final four in the section last year and only really lost thier HVT. I have no current facts for you or any thing that will show you the light. So why don't you inform me on who you think is in your top 5 . |
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| crusader wrestling | Oct 5 2008, 08:15 PM Post #111 |
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Delano 2007-08 Team 15-8 over all record 7-1 conference record 13 returning wrestlers from last years indiv. sections 103-Seck (12), 21-19 112-Drush (12), 9-28, 6th in sec. 119-Sowers (11), 19-6, 5th in sec. 125-Roth (12), 25-17, 4th in sec. 130-Tish (12), 11-11 135-Celander (11), 16-19 140-Hessing-(11), 27-15, 2nd in sections, state participant 145-B.Brasket-(12), 25-17, 3rd in sections 152-A. Brasket-(11), 24-14, 6th in sections 160-Bohler-(12), 18-12, 3rd in sections 171-Brueglmal-(11), 16-24 189-Dahl-(12), 24-17, IDF in sections 215-Copenhaven (12), 6-16 I'm not sure on where everyone's weight will be this year, but I would agree with Yub, Delano looks real solid. |
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| Iowa guy | Oct 5 2008, 08:48 PM Post #112 |
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Thanks for spelling out what I was looking at...as you can see it is not the dominate lineup that will take the section. Would you grace us with the Watertown/Mayor/Luther lineup since that is your team..... |
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| BigPoppa11 | Oct 5 2008, 09:20 PM Post #113 |
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Delano wont win the section. One returning state participant isnt going to cut it. |
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| Iowa guy | Oct 6 2008, 04:28 AM Post #114 |
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Hey...you want to take a crack at Scott west lineup? |
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| wrestling father 1 | Oct 6 2008, 06:36 AM Post #115 |
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Why do you always ask question, you know the answers too? If your already looking at it! I'm pretty sure by your previous posts, you have a better grasp on how things are gonna unfold. By the way, what team is it you back , so badly? |
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| vet | Oct 6 2008, 07:12 AM Post #116 |
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Didn't Delano win the 9th grade league tournament like 3 years ago? If they have a decent head coach I would guess they will do well the next two years. It's all about putting 13 guys one the mat with winning records. You don't need superstars to do that, just 13 about average guys who want to win.. |
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| 3/4 Neilson | Oct 6 2008, 07:39 AM Post #117 |
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13 :huh: |
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| crusader wrestling | Oct 6 2008, 08:02 AM Post #118 |
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I agree with you Vet and I get your point. I also think I get 3/4 Nelson point too. There are only 14 matches, a team only needs to win 7 and score more bonus points than they give up. Delano has enough depth (above average wrestlers and studs) this year to pull this off, but it will probably come down to match ups, as they usually do. BigPoppa, I know what your saying, but you need to look a little closer as to why Delano only has 1 state participant returning: In 2006-07 Sowers was a ranked wrestler and qualified for state. In 2007-08, he was out the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the season with a broken wrist or thumb, which is why he only had 25 matches. I don't think he really wrestled to his potential last year and I think his injury was just one reason why. I'm not saying had he been healthy he would have qualified, so please don't anyone jump on me about that. The sec. 2AA, the 119 bracket was very tough last year, maybe the deepest in the state that included Koob, Redding, Standick and Sowers, all whom are very good wrestlers. In a lot of other sections last year, I think they all could have qualified for state. Not very many sections in MN produce both the state champion and runner up. Similar situation at 160 last year, with sec. 2AA producing both the state champion and runner up. For Boher to finish 3rd is saying something about him. Dahl at 189, had he not ID in sections, not only could he have placed and he might have qualifI think he only lost to Mitch Berg last yr. by a point, so he is capable. BiggPoppa, don't forget, I was the one that said Watertown Mayer Lutheran had a legitimate shot to qualify for state last year and you quickly dismissed my early predictions. They did come up short to your Scott West boys when it mattered, but my pre-season prediction was accurate. Last year I also predicted that our sec. was going to be a 3 horse race with Delano and Hutch waiting in the wings. I took a lot of heat about the Delano predictions in the Wright Conference, but both Delano and Hutch proved me right at the end of the year. This year I think Sec. 2AA is a 4-5 horse race. I agree with Iowa Guy and Yub, this year there is no one clear cut "dominate team". Scott West is still the favorite, until someone from 2AA defeats them. But I do think Delano has a great chance to make it to the section finals this year and they could make it to state. |
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| crusader wrestling | Oct 6 2008, 08:46 AM Post #119 |
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Iowa Guy- I’m at a bit of a disadvantage, as a lot of these Watertown kids I haven’t even seen since last winter, being the Drew is at Mayer Lutheran. I’m hearing through the grape vine of a lot of growth over the spring/summer and it sounds like there will be a lot of questions regarding our line up between 125-171. This is what a can tell you at this point (based on the grapevine) 103-Elsenpeter 112-Fleming & ? 119 & 125 Fleming, Standick & ? 130, 135 & 140 Standick, White, Rosdahl, Hillman & Matuska 145, 152, 160 White, Rosdahl, Hillman, Matuska, Poikonen & S. Neaton 171, 189 S. Neaton, T. Neaton & ? 215, Hwt. Abernathy & ? Sorry I can't be more specific. Should have a better feel once I start seeing them on the mat on Nov. |
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| heavyweightdad | Oct 6 2008, 09:14 AM Post #120 |
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Did Elsenpeter grow ito a true 103? He wrestled 84 for SB duals in June. |
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