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| jtd | Jan 23 2011, 02:28 AM Post #1621 |
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Scott west, where are their holes? |
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| wish-I-had-good-knees | Jan 23 2011, 08:54 AM Post #1622 |
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No where. :D |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 23 2011, 09:54 AM Post #1623 |
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Holes...none. Spots where you can win a match...125, 145, 171 and 285. 103: Z. Siegle - ranked No. 6 112: Betchwars - very solid 119: L. Zilverberg - ranked No. 6 125: A. Fogarty - one of the spots where teams can win (although he did beat a quality LS-H kid 1-0 Friday) 130: Dobmeier - ranked No. 9 135: G. Fogarty - ranked No. 7 140: J. Siegle - ranked No. 3 145: P. Dvorak - beatable, but holds his own 152: T. Zilverberg - ranked No. 5 160: N. Dvorak - very solid 171: M. Dvorak - one of the spots where teams can win 189: Z. Dvorak - ranked No. 7 215: Kroells - ranked No. 1 285: Lucas - holds his own against smaller guys, has wrestled at 215 This is one of the most balanced teams I've seen in a while. They have some very solid kids behind these kids, too. |
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| !!!!! | Jan 23 2011, 01:50 PM Post #1624 |
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Didn't Betchwars just beat Siegle at 103 in the Hutch tournament? I wonder which one of the bottom three will be bumped out for individual state. |
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| BaBa88 | Jan 23 2011, 02:50 PM Post #1625 |
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Siegle I would guess since he is prolly to small for 112 |
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| wish-I-had-good-knees | Jan 24 2011, 09:50 AM Post #1626 |
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I saw in the results that there has been a Charlie Pesch sighting. He wrestled 140 and got 2nd. If Patrick Dvorak is beatable will having Pesch wrestle 145 be a better option for the team? The kid he lost to is ranked #10 in AAA. |
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| BaBa88 | Jan 24 2011, 11:14 AM Post #1627 |
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if Pesch was the better option than I would assume he would be wrestling varsity right now |
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| wish-I-had-good-knees | Jan 24 2011, 11:34 AM Post #1628 |
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Up until now they have not needed a better kid at 145. I am saying come team sections/state. I am not in there wrestling room so I purposed a question for this forum. If they are both getting varsity matches right now at different weights whats saying he won't try to wrestle off for a spot come late february? Look at 103 and 112. You have three kids that are really tough and could place but only have 2 spots, what is a coach to do? Answer the best for his team and him and his coaching staff must come up with an answer. The good thing is they still have time. the bad thing is they are running out of time. |
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| jtd | Jan 24 2011, 06:00 PM Post #1629 |
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who is this Charlie Pesch? |
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| OLDMATRASLER | Jan 24 2011, 07:52 PM Post #1630 |
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Hutchfan13, 125, 145, 171 and 285 are all really good wrestlers...each has placed in multiple tournaments, beaten quality and even some ranked wrestlers and would be the "Stars" and "Studs" on many other teams. No holes here. I believe they all have winning records. Good luck beating them. With the depth you mentioned, remember these 4 wieghts beat out other good varsity level wrestlers. SW reloads. jtd, Charlie Pesch is a new team member this year who was a A state participant in the past. He is a really good wrestler who has joined at team full of really good wrestlers. He will fit in and wrestle as the team needs. It is a gift to have this much depth. |
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| BaBa88 | Jan 24 2011, 07:56 PM Post #1631 |
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Scott West really doesn't have a lot of depth. Haven't seen many jv guys in the upper weights in the ROR results |
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| OLDMATRASLER | Jan 24 2011, 08:34 PM Post #1632 |
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MNnice, From what I have heard they have 4 guys that could wrestle 171,189 weights ( not counting the two that do) but thin out alittle at 215 and 285. Thats 8 for that top 4 weights. |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 24 2011, 11:02 PM Post #1633 |
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I didn't mean to knock any of the Panthers. I know whenever you get a Dvorak or Fogarty on the mat, you're going to get a great effort. There is no easy six points anywhere in the lineup. Obviously Scott West will be the No. 1 seed at sections. After that, though, 2-4 are up for grabs in my mind still. I think if Hutch/BLHS beats WM/ML next Tuesday, they're No. 2. Vice versa for the Royals, who already topped New Prague, 37-32. The Trojans probably are still in the mix and they are supposed to wrestle Hutch/BLHS the final weekend. I believe they seeded on Sunday or Monday last year so that meet would be completed in time for seeding. Anyone see any other team in this section lying claim to a top-four spot (receiving a bye and hosting the first round/quarterfinals)? |
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| OLDMATRASLER | Jan 25 2011, 06:17 AM Post #1634 |
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I would add Waconia to the mix. |
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| BigPoppa11 | Jan 25 2011, 07:51 AM Post #1635 |
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Can those 4 guys win any matches on Varsity? They may be able to fill a couple weights, but the next couple years look pretty slim for the upper weights. |
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| CC SportsGuy | Jan 25 2011, 10:42 AM Post #1636 |
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I have them No. 5 right now ahead of ML/LC and St. Peter. Hutch/BLHS beat them already. WM/ML faces them Thursday. New Prague doesn't wrestle them. |
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| 3/4 Neilson | Jan 25 2011, 11:19 PM Post #1637 |
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Does it really matter? |
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| hogfarmer | Jan 26 2011, 07:59 AM Post #1638 |
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No! It doesn't matter! But,"Do you smell what the Rocks got cookn'"! |
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| OLDMATRASLER | Jan 26 2011, 10:03 AM Post #1639 |
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What the heck does that mean? |
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| The Great Gamma | Jan 26 2011, 03:54 PM Post #1640 |
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The Northfield Invitational may produce some good match ups this Saturday with SW and MLLC attending. Tough field. |
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| goTigersgo | Jan 26 2011, 04:31 PM Post #1641 |
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Iowan@Heart did a spread-sheet and posted it on the Northfield Invitational thread: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AlUZtzaBd-1AdFV0UnVWeXlCU3hQVHMzcXFaTWVXeWc&hl=en&authkey=CPSWzYQL#gid=0
Edited by goTigersgo, Jan 26 2011, 04:31 PM.
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| yub | Jan 27 2011, 10:50 PM Post #1642 |
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WM/ML SPANKED! by Scottwest the score doesn't even matter. THE GAP IS HUGE in section 2AA..... Once again the battle left to fight, is for second best in the section. It might be funny if it wasn't so bleeping pathetic!!! I guess they do have magic beans, I mean they must? how do they do it? |
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| OLDMATRASLER | Jan 27 2011, 11:28 PM Post #1643 |
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58 to 9 SW over WM/ML, 73 to 4 over Waconia. Waconia won a major at heavy weight. 6 of the 9 WM/ML points was a FF at 189 because the kid has a bug. Stadnick and Zilverberg had an exciting match. It was close all the way til the end with a 4 to 2 dec. to Stadnick. SW looked tough. The ref was horrible. Screwed up the 160 match something terrible. A 6 to 2 win for SW over ranked WM/ML kid. The WM/ML ranked 160 kids only points were penalty points given by the ref over dubious calls. Then he had the sportsmanship to throw in an efenhiemer at the SW team and the ref let him walk. Where's the love ?
Edited by OLDMATRASLER, Jan 28 2011, 12:39 PM.
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| BigPoppa11 | Jan 28 2011, 08:16 AM Post #1644 |
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Good coaches |
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| OLDMATRASLER | Jan 28 2011, 08:49 AM Post #1645 |
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agreed. |
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| goTigersgo | Jan 28 2011, 08:58 AM Post #1646 |
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Many of the SW wrestlers practice year-round and wrestle freestyle/greco. They have great coaching plus they put in the mat time. It's not magic, its hard work. |
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| BigPoppa11 | Jan 28 2011, 10:42 AM Post #1647 |
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O c'mon, we all know Pen and Teller come in every year and puts a spell on Scott West. :P |
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| OLDMATRASLER | Jan 28 2011, 12:33 PM Post #1648 |
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Right on. Hard work is right. Dedication of parents and coaches also. B) |
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| 3/4 Neilson | Jan 28 2011, 02:03 PM Post #1649 |
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Care to share the individual match up and scores? |
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| yub | Jan 28 2011, 02:06 PM Post #1650 |
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Ya think!!!! but it's not only coaching moves, conditioning, ect........ It, I think it goes that most coaches don't really have any real commitment. They just plow ahead safe in there jobs happy with average out comes. Uncommitted to their programs and mostly Uncommitted to their kids. That is truly @#$%ty, how do you do that to a kids. Remember earlier in the tread we talked about egos what a ego it must take to @#$% on a team of kids. Unfortunately is is every where and poisons most H.S. programs |
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