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2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,787 Views)
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Feb 5 2011, 03:16 PM
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Feb 5 2011, 03:33 AM
big poppa will they be back next year
I heard watertown is joining the conference and it makes sense to bring them back in. LSH kept them on there schedual even after they left the conf and watertown duels them as well does MLLC because they are in the same section. As for the last 2 yrs SE has been schedualing them and NYA schedualed this year so why not let them back in. I am sure SW didn't ask to come back into the conf. I am sure with the addition of WTML to the conference it was just a matter of time before it happened. Now you have a even split of AA an A schools in the conf. Before it was it was all class A schools with LSH and NYA bouncing back an forth between A an AA. Just remember when it was NYA, SE, Le Center, Montgomery, LSH, Mankato Loyola, and SW. When looking at that list of schools I can't imagine why the other schools wanted SW out. SW got voted out then Loyola left and shortly after Montgomery and Le Center paired. The conference shrunk in a hurry. I still think they need to add another school like a St. Peter. They are close in distance and for the most part they wrestle everyone else in the conf anyway. If they were to add a St. Peter and one more team they could hold a dual schedual and a 8 team ind tourny at the end of the year. Would be nice in my mind.
If I remember, Le Sueur was an AA school when Scott West was dismisssed from the MRC. Later, this gave the LS coaching staff a chance to compete with the class A schools left in the conference. As of late, the coaches look like genius's from that decision. Of course, they have very good wrestlers, committed supporters, and Henderson to thank. Good luck to the wrestlers as they represent our conference.
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Feb 5 2011, 08:00 PM
Actually Pesch wrestled against Hastings.
Thank's for the info I was watching on Flo and it's posted as Rohr vs Dvorik. But I listened and they announce Pesch.
Edited by yub, Feb 6 2011, 03:49 AM.
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Pesch did a good job agains a beast. Rohr had pinned Dvorak earlier in the year. Pesch is stronger in the upper body and harder to pin. Good call by the coaches.
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Guys we can not let this post fall to 2nd page !! Lets hear some chatter about team sections.
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Feb 7 2011, 06:25 PM
Guys we can not let this post fall to 2nd page !! Lets hear some chatter about team sections.
Who cares about team sections. You will have more participation if you discuss Individual sections don't you think?
What weight class will be the best to watch?
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Feb 7 2011, 06:45 PM
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Feb 7 2011, 06:25 PM
Guys we can not let this post fall to 2nd page !! Lets hear some chatter about team sections.
Who cares about team sections. You will have more participation if you discuss Individual sections don't you think?
What weight class will be the best to watch?
I say watch Rutt 171 and Brownlee 125 Freidrich 135 if he gets over the match with Gabe.The wrestles at almost all the weights in 2AA will be matches that everyone will be on the edge of their seats.I think this is going to be one of the best individual section tournys we will see .The best part is there are alot of younger kids that will get to return next year to do it all over again. Every kid win or lose can look up at the crowd when they are done wrestling and use Russel Crows line from The Gladiator"Are you not entertained !"Because we will be.
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You may be right 3/4, the team part of the section seems to be pretty much decided. The only thing to find out is if WM/ML, Hutch, or NP comes in second. As for the Individuals there seems to be a much greater opportunity for upsets. There are many favorites that one might think will get to the X for sure. Yet we all know in wrestling nothing except Scottwest taking the team title is sure.....
Edited by yub, Feb 7 2011, 08:13 PM.
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Been a few weeks since my last section individual update...

103
Luke Betchwars, Scott West
Matt Elsenpeter, WM/ML
Trevor Westerlund, New Prague
Tyler Karl, Hutch/BLHS

112
Zach Siegle/Luke Zilverberg, Scott West
Hunter Retzlaff, St. Peter
Griffin Parriott, New Prague
Jacob Steinbauer, Waconia

119
Aaron Sweeney, WM/ML
Matt Lloyd, MLLC
Ricardo Flectcher, Mankato East
Luke Cihak, New Ulm

125
Eric Madson, Hutch/BLHS
Mason Brownlee, MLLC
Dakota Haslip, St. Peter
Andrew Fogarty, Scott West

130
Tyler Dobmeier, Scott West
Morgan Parriott, New Prague
Mitchell Hartwig, GSL/LP
Chris Schmidt, Hutch/BLHS

135
Gabe Fogarty, Scott West
Zach Friederich, MLLC
Dakota Cole, New Prague
Colt Trebesch, GSL/LP

140
Jake Siegle, Scott West
Sam Braunshausen, Waconia
Stephen Delwiche, GSL/LP
Luke Derksen, New Ulm

145
Joey Stadnick, WM/ML
Patrick Dvorak/Charlie Pesch, Scott Wes
Jeff Tiede, MLLC
Bobby Rasmussen, Hutch/BLHS

152
Tyler Zilverberg, Scott West
Cole Cihak, New Ulm
Anthony Settergren, Hutch/BLHS
Luke Ritter, New Prague

160
Nick Dvorak, Scott West
Matt White, WM/ML
Tanner McLain, St. Peter
Alex Mueller, New Prague or Chris Gallus, Delano

171
Zack Rutt, MLLC
Kyle White, Hutch/BLHS
Marty Dvorak, Scott West
Miles Hammerlund, Delano

189
Taylor Neaton, WM/ML
Zach Dvorak, Scott West
Max Bullock, Waconia
Dalton Clouse, GSL/LP

215
Michael Kroells, Scott West
Mario Arroyo, MLLC
Will Linn, Waconia
Lincoln Benzkofer, Mankato East

285
Jon Lucas, Scott West
Josh Piepmeier, Hutch/BLHS
Derek Butcher, Delano
Collin Gabler, Mankato East
Edited by CC SportsGuy, Feb 8 2011, 02:31 PM.
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You might want to throw little Zilverberg in at 112. He's been tough all year. I think Siegle may be the odd man out at individual sections for Scott West.
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Feb 8 2011, 11:41 AM
You might want to throw little Zilverberg in at 112. He's been tough all year. I think Siegle may be the odd man out at individual sections for Scott West.
he has siegle/zilverberg at 112
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Does anyone know what is going on with Schmidt? I haven't seen him in the results lately. Is he hurt, and if so, when will he be back?
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Hutchfan13,

Couple updates....at 103 Betchwars beat Elsenpeter on the Jan. 27th and at 160 Nick Dvorak beat Matt White same date.

Everything else looks ok.
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Feb 8 2011, 01:13 PM
Hutchfan13,

Couple updates....at 103 Betchwars beat Elsenpeter on the Jan. 27th and at 160 Nick Dvorak beat Matt White same date.

Everything else looks ok.
Thanks. Haven't seen full result-by-result from that match. Will edit those.

!!!!! - are you talking about Chris Schmidt from Hutch/BLHS? Shoulder injury. It happened I believe when he got pinned late against Ann/ML. He had a sling on pre-match against WM/ML, but had it off during the match. I think he'll be back for sections (hopefully).
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Who won between Hutch/BLH vs New Prauge?
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Does anyone know if Waconia's Sam Braunshausen is going to be back this year? I know there was some concern about his shoulder injury being season ending.


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Feb 10 2011, 09:41 AM
Hutchfan13,
Who won between Hutch/BLH vs New Prauge?
Friday night in New Prague. Winner gets No. 3 seed.
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Hutchfan13,

Couple updates....at 103 Betchwars beat Elsenpeter on the Jan. 27th and at 160 Nick Dvorak beat Matt White same date.

Everything else looks ok.
I know Betchwars and Ellsinpeter want to and probably will go 103 and correct me if I'm wrong but I think their match on Jan 27th was wrestled at 112. May or may not be a big deal but some kids wrestle better or worse when they are up or down a weight.
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Feb 10 2011, 10:38 AM
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Feb 8 2011, 01:13 PM
Hutchfan13,

Couple updates....at 103 Betchwars beat Elsenpeter on the Jan. 27th and at 160 Nick Dvorak beat Matt White same date.

Everything else looks ok.
I know Betchwars and Ellsinpeter want to and probably will go 103 and correct me if I'm wrong but I think their match on Jan 27th was wrestled at 112. May or may not be a big deal but some kids wrestle better or worse when they are up or down a weight.
I believe betchwars weighed in at 103 but Elsenpeter weighed in at 112. The match was wanted so Betchwars wrestled up.
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Feb 10 2011, 09:55 AM
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Feb 10 2011, 09:41 AM
Hutchfan13,
Who won between Hutch/BLH vs New Prauge?
Friday night in New Prague. Winner gets No. 3 seed.
Any predictions on how this will go?
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Westerlund maj. Karl 4-0 NP
Parriott dec Kosteleky 7-0 NP
Drew dec Berg 7-3 NP
Madsen pin Reinartz 7-9 Hutch
Parriott pin Pundsack 13-9 NP
Cole dec Schmidt 16-9 NP
Rasmussen pin McGuiggan 16-15 NP
Jordahl maj Zeimet 16-19 Hutch
Settergren dec Ritter 16-22 Hutch
Mueller maj Mellies 20-22 Hutch
White maj Giles 20-26 Hutch
Preston dec Misch 23-26 Hutch
Tuma pin Benage 29-26 NP
Svoboda dec Piepmeier 32-26 NP

NP could pick up some more bonus points down below. Also, Hutch could get a few more in the middle. Should be fun!
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Feb 10 2011, 09:41 AM
Hutchfan13,
Who won between Hutch/BLH vs New Prauge?
Friday night in New Prague. Winner gets No. 3 seed.
Any predictions on how this will go?
New Prague hasn't reported 2/3 of their duals....so here's my best stab (had to go back to 1/21 to find names):
103: Westerlund dec Karl NP 3-0
112: Parriot maj Kostelecky NP 7-0
119: Drew maj Berg NP 7-4
125: Pundsack dec Reinart 7-7
130: Madson/Parriot toss-up
135: Petersen dec Nelson H 10-7 (might be a forfeit here)
140: Cole dec Rasmussen 10-10
145: G. Jordahl pin Zeimet H 16-10
152: Settergren maj Ritter H 20-10
160: Mueller dec Mellies H 20-13
171: Sirek pin Misch H 20-19
189: White pin Preston H 26-19
215: Tuma dec Benage H 26-22
285: Piepmeier dec Svoboda H 29-22 (32-22 with Madson dec, 29-25 with Parriot dec)

Probably be a few more pins...hard to tell what the Trojans can do when they SHOW NOTHING!
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Feb 11 2011, 08:08 AM
Westerlund maj. Karl 4-0 NP
Parriott dec Kosteleky 7-0 NP
Drew dec Berg 7-3 NP
Madsen pin Reinartz 7-9 Hutch
Parriott pin Pundsack 13-9 NP
Cole dec Schmidt 16-9 NP
Rasmussen pin McGuiggan 16-15 NP
Jordahl maj Zeimet 16-19 Hutch
Settergren dec Ritter 16-22 Hutch
Mueller maj Mellies 20-22 Hutch
White maj Giles 20-26 Hutch
Preston dec Misch 23-26 Hutch
Tuma pin Benage 29-26 NP
Svoboda dec Piepmeier 32-26 NP

NP could pick up some more bonus points down below. Also, Hutch could get a few more in the middle. Should be fun!
Good breakdown. You obviously know NP better. I'll take Piepmeier over Svoboda at heavyweight and Jordahl at 145 should get a pin. Insert Corey Petersen at 135 for Chris Schmidt.

I think we'll see Madson and Parriott. I also wonder how close Hutch/BLHS is to wrestling Kyle White at 171 and having eighth-grader Gregor Fraser (4-1, fifth place at 9th State) at 189. The Preston kid seems to be a favorable matchup.
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Feb 11 2011, 08:09 AM
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Feb 11 2011, 07:25 AM
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Feb 10 2011, 09:55 AM
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Feb 10 2011, 09:41 AM
Hutchfan13,
Who won between Hutch/BLH vs New Prauge?
Friday night in New Prague. Winner gets No. 3 seed.
Any predictions on how this will go?
New Prague hasn't reported 2/3 of their duals....so here's my best stab (had to go back to 1/21 to find names):
103: Westerlund dec Karl NP 3-0
112: Parriot maj Kostelecky NP 7-0
119: Drew maj Berg NP 7-4
125: Pundsack dec Reinart 7-7
130: Madson/Parriot toss-up
135: Petersen dec Nelson H 10-7 (might be a forfeit here)
140: Cole dec Rasmussen 10-10
145: G. Jordahl pin Zeimet H 16-10
152: Settergren maj Ritter H 20-10
160: Mueller dec Mellies H 20-13
171: Sirek pin Misch H 20-19
189: White pin Preston H 26-19
215: Tuma dec Benage H 26-22
285: Piepmeier dec Svoboda H 29-22 (32-22 with Madson dec, 29-25 with Parriot dec)

Probably be a few more pins...hard to tell what the Trojans can do when they SHOW NOTHING!
Yours looks good as well. Who is responsible for posting results?
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Feb 11 2011, 07:25 AM
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Feb 10 2011, 09:55 AM
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Feb 10 2011, 09:41 AM
Hutchfan13,
Who won between Hutch/BLH vs New Prauge?
Friday night in New Prague. Winner gets No. 3 seed.
Any predictions on how this will go?
New Prague hasn't reported 2/3 of their duals....so here's my best stab (had to go back to 1/21 to find names):
103: Westerlund dec Karl NP 3-0
112: Parriot maj Kostelecky NP 7-0
119: Drew maj Berg NP 7-4
125: Pundsack dec Reinart 7-7
130: Madson/Parriot toss-up
135: Petersen dec Nelson H 10-7 (might be a forfeit here)
140: Cole dec Rasmussen 10-10
145: G. Jordahl pin Zeimet H 16-10
152: Settergren maj Ritter H 20-10
160: Mueller dec Mellies H 20-13
171: Sirek pin Misch H 20-19
189: White pin Preston H 26-19
215: Tuma dec Benage H 26-22
285: Piepmeier dec Svoboda H 29-22 (32-22 with Madson dec, 29-25 with Parriot dec)

Probably be a few more pins...hard to tell what the Trojans can do when they SHOW NOTHING!
Yours looks good as well. Who is responsible for posting results?
Coaches. Assistant coaches. Managers. Anybody.
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Feb 10 2011, 09:41 AM
Hutchfan13,
Who won between Hutch/BLH vs New Prauge?
Friday night in New Prague. Winner gets No. 3 seed.
Any predictions on how this will go?
New Prague hasn't reported 2/3 of their duals....so here's my best stab (had to go back to 1/21 to find names):
103: Westerlund dec Karl NP 3-0
112: Parriot maj Kostelecky NP 7-0
119: Drew maj Berg NP 7-4
125: Pundsack dec Reinart 7-7
130: Madson/Parriot toss-up
135: Petersen dec Nelson H 10-7 (might be a forfeit here)
140: Cole dec Rasmussen 10-10
145: G. Jordahl pin Zeimet H 16-10
152: Settergren maj Ritter H 20-10
160: Mueller dec Mellies H 20-13
171: Sirek pin Misch H 20-19
189: White pin Preston H 26-19
215: Tuma dec Benage H 26-22
285: Piepmeier dec Svoboda H 29-22 (32-22 with Madson dec, 29-25 with Parriot dec)

Probably be a few more pins...hard to tell what the Trojans can do when they SHOW NOTHING!
Yours looks good as well. Who is responsible for posting results?
Coaches. Assistant coaches. Managers. Anybody.
So would the opposing teams also be at fault when scores are not entered? Is it the responsibility of the home team? the winning team? or do they not have anything set for this? Is it just being polite to post results. I too get frusturated when I cannot see the individual results of duals!

With that being said, I have a few POTENTIAL changes (just for fun!)

NP could get 6 at 103 and 112
119, 125, and 130 should all be good matches if they match up the way you have them. 130 will be by far the most anticipated match of the night.
Without Schmidt, NP could get 6 at 135
Hutch could get 6 at 140 and 145
152...we agree:)
160....NP could get bonus points
171....Sirek is out for the year...so i've been told. I think Giles is better though.
189...depends what happens with White at 171 and 189....good chance for splitting pins/wins Giles and White would be a better match to watch and would give a better idea for individual sections
215...NP could get 6
HWT...i agree Piepmeier could win...he has shown great improvement and Svoboda does not look like he is doing as well. Could be another toss-up and even more exciting.............the dual decider!!!!

Are you going to the dual tonight Hutchfan13?? If so, do you have the capability of posting updates?!?! That would be great if someone could.
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I won't be. Staying in town for a couple of local events. Otherwise I would bring my laptop and wireless card.

Lots of toss-ups and could gets in this match - that's why it should be a good one. I'm interested to see if Cole and Petersen match up at 135. Petersen was a section placer last year and with four matches under his belt now, he should be more prepared than he was 10 days ago against Reinart from WM/ML. Haven't seen much from Cole this season, but what I have seen, he's looking like a section contender.

As far as reporting, I just think it comes down to individual team's preference. In the past, Hutch rarely had updates on the Guillotine unless the other team posted them. Now, for the most part, they are updating TrackWrestling after every match. Sure, it puts your lineup out there, but it sure helps media do their job.

Here is how I see the seedings shaking out Sunday....the only debate is MLLC and Waconia for six and seven. They didn't wrestle each other.

1. SW 2. WMML 3. Hutch or NP 4. Hutch or NP
5. St. Peter 6. Waconia 7. MLLC 8. G-SL/LP
9. Delano 10. East 11. New Ulm
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Hutch over NP 34-33.
Came down to Hvy & Piepmeier won 7-1
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Hutch over NP 34-33.
Came down to Hvy & Piepmeier won 7-1
Here I thought I was going to break it :)

Hutch trailed 15-0 through four matches but won at 130, 140, 145, 152, 171, 189 and 285. Mellies at 71 and Settergren at 52 trailed in matches, but pulled through for the Tigers.

Should lock up the third seed for Hutch/BLHS.
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When is the team seeding meedting? At first I didn't like the two day sections but it gives 4 teams another home meet. But an extra weigh-in isn't good.
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