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| The Great Gamma | Oct 9 2008, 03:10 PM Post #151 |
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Who is the spokesperson for 2AA Wrestling? AD's, Coaches, Deans, anyone want to help us out? |
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| BigPoppa11 | Oct 9 2008, 04:30 PM Post #152 |
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You really need to learn how to read, I said "My opinion of a stud is someone who places in state or has placed in state." In 2006 Scott West had 3 people place in state. Hmmm...3 studs. It seems like you dont know how to read...you might need to go back to 3rd grade. |
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| 10000 Lakes | Oct 9 2008, 06:43 PM Post #153 |
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| crusader wrestling | Oct 9 2008, 07:19 PM Post #154 |
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I not sure what that means. When I checked the Waconia activites calendar, it shows Thurs night being the section tournament. So if I understand all these changes (which I don't) this is what we might be looking at: Thurs. Feb 19th Preliminary’s (3 mats) Weigh in’s @ 5:00 PM #8 vs. #9 @ 7:00 PM #6 vs. #11 @ 7:00 PM #7 vs. #10 @ 7:00 PM Sat. Feb 21st Quarter, Semi and Finals Weigh in’s @ 3:00 PM (no allowance) 5:00 PM Quarter Finals (4 mats) #8/#9 winner vs. #1 @ 5:00 PM #6/#11 winner vs. #3 @ 5:00 PM #7/#10 winner vs. #2 @ 5:00 PM #5 vs. #4 @ 5:00 PM 7:00 PM Semi Finals (2 mats) 9:00 PM Finals (1 mat) |
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| BigPoppa11 | Oct 9 2008, 09:34 PM Post #155 |
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9PM finals seems pretty late. |
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| Obsessed With Wrestling | Oct 9 2008, 10:20 PM Post #156 |
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Not that I am for or against the 2 day change because I have mixed feelings on it, but when you read the minutes did you look at who was all present? Where was the AD for your school? Did you ask him why he wasn't there and why weren't many of them there at all? Don't we have more than 5 teams in this section? Maybe their would have been more discussion if more where there. Are only so many representatives allowed or can they all come? I also always wonder if the communication between AD's and coachs is as good as it should be. When they were putting out the vote for the weight changes their seemed not to be. http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/regions.asp?region=2AA |
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| Asic | Oct 10 2008, 07:07 AM Post #157 |
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I am completly against the two day format. |
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| crusader wrestling | Oct 10 2008, 07:18 AM Post #158 |
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I agree with you BiggPoppa (can't believe I said that) 9:00 PM would be to late. Please keep in mind that the schedule I layout, I'm making some big assuptions here regarding the times/format, as the only thing that is posted is a 5:00 start time on the Waconia High School Activities Schedule. If the information that has been shared to us is accurate, the host school "might" have a facility conflict on Sat. morning. Start time of 5:00 on web site seems to confirm that. Also, not sure about the Thurs. schedule/format, as sec. 2AA minutes say prelimarys are hosted by "high seed". Does that mean there will be 3 different locations for the prelims, hosted by #6, #7 & #8? |
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| Obsessed With Wrestling | Oct 10 2008, 08:03 AM Post #159 |
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Other sections that run a 2 day format run 2 rounds the first night. Would this be the case? 6AA is this way. Then only 4 schools have to show up on Sat. |
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| crusader wrestling | Oct 10 2008, 08:06 AM Post #160 |
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Obsessed With Wrestling- I'm making a lot of assumptions here, so my facts may not be right, but this is how I understand what happened: Re. AD representation, that was my first thought when I looked at the minutes, but then I found out that not all the sections 2AA AD's are part of this committee. You need to keep in mind there are other sports who have different section alignments and it is physically impossible for an AD to attend all of them. So what they do is "assign" an AD to particular section/sports. These groups/committees also work on multiple sections. The other schools who were present that voted yes on the issue are Chaska, Shakopee, Marshall, Mound, Willmar, DC and Mankato West. Mankato West made the motion to split the 3AA and 2AA section team wrestling tournament into two days, it was a 12-0 unanimous decision. The only other AD’s from sec. 2AA that was assigned to this group, that wasn't there was Delano. I assume that there is some internal section 2AA AD communication regarding issues. Re. communication between AD's and coaches, from what I understand, all the sec. 2AA coaches met during the individual section tournament, discussed the pros/cons of 1 day vs. 2 day, voted and passed on a written recommendation to their AD's and the section 2AA tournament committee. Somewhere between the 2AA coaches vote/recommendations and the April AD meeting, the format was changed to a two a day tournament. There may or may not be an underlining issue of communication from the AD’s to the coaches which could be similar to the weight issue (i don't know). Or maybe this decision was driven by the “non-2AA” schools on the committee. Then again, there was not one “no” vote from any one of the section 2AA voting AD’s, so it does make you wonder. I can see the benefits and draw backs of both formats. I'm not sure there is a right or wrong here. Personally, I don't see this changing, unless the 2AA coaches step up and challege thier AD regarding this decission and thier lack of support of the 2AA coaches recommendations. Maybe the coaches "need some cover" from the wrestling families and they should approach the AD's? (ask your coach). Then the next questions is, will the AD's step up and challenge the other AD's on the committee to reconsider???? |
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| crusader wrestling | Oct 10 2008, 08:36 AM Post #161 |
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You might be correct, so that would mean: Thurs. Feb 19th Preliminary’s @ 4 different sites host site #1 seed Weigh in's @ 4:00 #8 vs. #9 @ 5:00 PM #8/#9 Winner vs. #1 @ 7:00 host site #2 seed Weigh ins @4:00 #7 vs. #10 @ 5:00 PM #7/#10 winner vs. #2 @ 7:00 PM Host site #3 seed Weigh ins @4:00 #6 vs. #11 @ 5:00 PM #6/#11 winner vs. #3 @ 7:00 PM Host site #4 seed Weigh in's @ 5:00 #5 vs. #4 @ 7:00 PM Sat. Feb 21st Semi and Finals @ Waconia Weigh in’s @ 3:00 PM (no allowance) 5:00 PM semi finals (2 mats) 7:00 PM Finals (1 mats) |
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| truthhurts | Oct 10 2008, 09:07 AM Post #162 |
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I might , but I tought you ment returning stud . You said you have to have a stud , I don't know how you know for shure before the season starts . Ya see its easy to say after the fact or maybe you talked to the ghost of Jean Dixon . I can't see in the future and you seemed to be stating it that way . Did you know for shure those kids would get to the X or place . For some reason I don't think that you really did . |
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| Obsessed With Wrestling | Oct 10 2008, 01:53 PM Post #163 |
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The MSHSL shows this: Team Feb 19, 2009 Round 1 & Quarterfinal Feb 21, 2009 Semifinal & Final So then I would assume your likely right on 4 different sites on Thurs. night. Kind of a nice deal if your one of the 4 high seeds. I actually think it will be interesting to try something new. Who knows we might like it. |
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| yub | Oct 15 2008, 01:37 PM Post #164 |
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Before the section shuffle Waconia and Watertown where in sec 5AA .The two day format was what they used and it seemed to work then . I like the one day format but what ever works . |
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| IMONTOPSTEP | Oct 15 2008, 02:59 PM Post #165 |
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Could be a hike for New Ulm |
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| sitandspin | Oct 15 2008, 06:52 PM Post #166 |
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Everyone makes it sound like they are having to go to International Falls or something. It's at most 2 days during the most important part of the season for many of the wrestlers. Is it really that big of a deal? So you get home at 12:00 and struggle a little at the start of the next work day, big deal. |
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| BigSkyCountry | Oct 21 2008, 12:27 PM Post #167 |
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Having wrestled for Watertown when it was in 5AA, in my opinion the two day tourney was nice because then you would only have to wrestle 2 matches per night tops so you were still at a decent level at the end rather than wrestling 3-4 matches which even the best wrestlers don't look their best in their 4th match in one day. |
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| yub | Oct 27 2008, 01:42 PM Post #168 |
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Lets go 2AA fans some whom I've talked with think the section is totally up for grabs. Some fans feel like theres a good chance any of last years top four teams could get in the finals . Scottwest may not be a lock but are always tuff, Delano if you ask most could be there . Watertown has some studs and will be interesting as well as Hutch might be.Then could any of the other teams in the sec. break in to the top if so who ? |
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| 3/4 Neilson | Oct 27 2008, 02:01 PM Post #169 |
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Well YUB, help us out here. After talking with all of those people and throwing in your own opinion, who do you see as the potential top 4 then two? Start us off here. |
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| yub | Oct 27 2008, 06:39 PM Post #170 |
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Top 4 in no particular order Scottwest Watertown Delano Hutchinson Being that my son goes to Mayer Lutheran H.S. and wrestles for Watertown .I would love to see a rematch of last years finals . With a different outcome of course for our team . Delano might just have somthing to say about it to both of them .I also think every other team would like to see them selfs in the finals .However I don't think most of the teams in our section have as good a chance as theis 4 teams . Just my thoughts we'll see come Febuary-March . 3/4 Nelson: I mentioned all 4 teams in my last post . Who do you think the top 4 are .I also asked that ? |
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| greenmachine | Oct 27 2008, 07:12 PM Post #171 |
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Even with their losses from last year, MLLC might be included in the mix. I see a match with Delano, MLLC & Hutch on Jan 30th. Should be good. |
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| 13887 | Oct 27 2008, 07:56 PM Post #172 |
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new prague will have a fine team too.... |
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| 3/4 Neilson | Oct 27 2008, 08:14 PM Post #173 |
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I would have a hard time making any kind of a top 4 prediction without a roster that I could put head to head. With that said, you must have some insight as to a roster and weights for your top 4 teams. Do you care to share? |
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| The Great Gamma | Oct 27 2008, 08:19 PM Post #174 |
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This is what I have heard also...... What kind of roster do you have for them...... Not hearing much from Scott West either.....Must be top secret.... |
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| yub | Oct 28 2008, 09:14 AM Post #175 |
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Most of my info is from the guillotine sites and links . I also know people threw baseball ,football, summer wrestling ect.... we talk . I don't think most coaches could give you a complete roster right now as you know. So no I can't share anything like you I just give opinion. |
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| BigPoppa11 | Oct 29 2008, 12:43 AM Post #176 |
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I dont know much about Scott West's line up this year. Kind of hard to tell where people will be, especially younger kids. |
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| Stamina | Oct 29 2008, 09:52 AM Post #177 |
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Don't hold out on us Bigpoppa you always know the facts on scott west. |
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| BigSkyCountry | Oct 29 2008, 04:25 PM Post #178 |
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Give poppa a little break..........there's still over a month til the season starts and its still awhile until you can tell where the guys will come in at |
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| BigPoppa11 | Oct 29 2008, 07:34 PM Post #179 |
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I think I have an idea of who is where.... 103-? 112-? 119-? 125-? 130-? 135-? 140-? 145-? 152-? 160-? 171-? 189-? 215-? 285- Hentges |
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| HIDAWAY | Oct 30 2008, 12:50 PM Post #180 |
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I dunno Pappy. I heard at a football game last week there may be a "big" surprise at HWt. with Mr. Hentges down a weight??? And, if history repeats itself, I bet you can pencil a Davork in a couple of mid wts. Let's get imagenitive. |
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