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2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
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OLDMATRASLER	Feb 28 2011, 09:12 PM Post #1891
Super Fan Posts: 408 Group: Die Hard Member #1,332 Joined: January 23, 2005	oh you of little faith in 2AA. There are 6 places at state. 2AA will be represented well in these 6 places.



BigPoppa11	Mar 1 2011, 08:22 AM Post #1892
Fantastic Posts: 1,705 Group: Die Hard Member #4,855 Joined: February 3, 2006	Hutchfan13 Feb 28 2011, 09:04 PM 3/4 Neilson Feb 28 2011, 01:48 PM 130 - Doesn't really pay to be the No. 1 seed sometimes! Dobmeier gets No. 4 Lynn, who jumped up three weight classes from last year. Hartwig, a tourney newcomer, gets Simley's Short, who has 13 wins. Dobmeier gets through 135 - Getting the No. 1 seed here was big. Frederich has a fairly easy run to the semis. Fogarty will have to beat No. 1 Garness in the quarters. I say both - Fogarty will be mad after losing Saturday. . Too bad being on top of the bracket has nothing to do with anything. There is no number one seed in state. Edited by BigPoppa11, Mar 1 2011, 08:24 AM.



CC SportsGuy	Mar 1 2011, 09:05 AM Post #1893
Super Fan Posts: 480 Group: Die Hard Member #9,643 Joined: December 11, 2007	BigPoppa11 Mar 1 2011, 08:22 AM Hutchfan13 Feb 28 2011, 09:04 PM 3/4 Neilson Feb 28 2011, 01:48 PM 130 - Doesn't really pay to be the No. 1 seed sometimes! Dobmeier gets No. 4 Lynn, who jumped up three weight classes from last year. Hartwig, a tourney newcomer, gets Simley's Short, who has 13 wins. Dobmeier gets through 135 - Getting the No. 1 seed here was big. Frederich has a fairly easy run to the semis. Fogarty will have to beat No. 1 Garness in the quarters. I say both - Fogarty will be mad after losing Saturday. . Too bad being on top of the bracket has nothing to do with anything. There is no number one seed in state. I think 2AA will be well represented on the podium as well. I was looking at the first two matches for each section wrestler. There are some tough draws. Poppa - I meant No. 1 seed from the section. With the random draw, the section champion may wrestle a tough No. 2 kid from a traditionally tough section, while the section runner-up may wrestle a champion from a weaker section. It's life. Sometimes it doesn't matter what seed you are - No. 1 or 2.



OLDMATRASLER	Mar 1 2011, 09:13 AM Post #1894
Super Fan Posts: 408 Group: Die Hard Member #1,332 Joined: January 23, 2005	Ya have to beat everyone for the crown, so it doesn't matter who you wrestle first anyway. Second place is the first in the line of 5 other losers. Just kidding...I would have loved to have placed in State....heck even go to State. Any State participant has my respect.



BaBa88	Mar 1 2011, 09:28 AM Post #1895
Super Fan Posts: 178 Group: Die Hard Member #15,953 Joined: October 5, 2009	You only have to beat 4 guys to win it all.



3/4 Neilson	Mar 1 2011, 09:56 AM Post #1896
Fanatic Posts: 980 Group: Die Hard Member #6,483 Joined: November 6, 2006	MNnice Mar 1 2011, 09:28 AM You only have to beat 4 guys to win it all. Exactly, you are only 4 wins away from a state championship!!! B)



yub	Mar 1 2011, 10:25 AM Post #1897
Super Fan Posts: 317 Group: Die Hard Member #6,701 Joined: December 3, 2006	Our section has some very tough expeierenced wrestlers. I hope others take some of them for granted like Hutchfan13 seems to have done.



CC SportsGuy	Mar 1 2011, 05:05 PM Post #1898
Super Fan Posts: 480 Group: Die Hard Member #9,643 Joined: December 11, 2007	yub Mar 1 2011, 10:25 AM Our section has some very tough expeierenced wrestlers. I hope others take some of them for granted like Hutchfan13 seems to have done. I don't take anyone for grant it. I would be happy if Section 2AA has numerous champions, but the reality is, the group isn't as experienced as you think. Newcomers (15 of 28) Westerlund, L. Zilverberg, Sweeney, Lloyd, Madson, Dobmeier, Hartwig, Delwiche, Cihak, Gallus, White, Z. Dvorak, Arroyo, Kichler, Butcher Second-year state entrants (8 of 28) Betchwars, Retzlaff, Brownlee, G. Fogarty, Stadnick, Pesch, N. Dvorak, Neaton Third-year state entrants (5 of 28) Z. Frederich, J. Siegle, T. Zilverberg, Rutt, Kroells Last year Section 2AA had five wrestlers in the semifinals (Kroells, Fleming, Frederich, Hansen and Brinkman) - two in the finals (Kroells and Fleming) and one champion (Fleming). To predict six in the semifinals is about right. I'm excited to see how a few of the newcomers wrestle in their first big show most notably Madson, L. Zilverberg, Dobmeier and Westerlund. Will this be the year for veterans Frederich, Zilverberg, Siegle and Rutt to win a title? How will the group of second-year entrants fare in their second time at the X? Should be fun. Good luck Section 2AA!!!



OLDMATRASLER	Mar 1 2011, 05:25 PM Post #1899
Super Fan Posts: 408 Group: Die Hard Member #1,332 Joined: January 23, 2005	Many newcomers need to overcome the novelty of being at State to do well. The return enterants tend to do better their second time. Veterans ussually do well and place. I have seen this trend consistantly through the years.



3/4 Neilson	Mar 1 2011, 05:48 PM Post #1900
Fanatic Posts: 980 Group: Die Hard Member #6,483 Joined: November 6, 2006	OLDMATRASLER Mar 1 2011, 05:25 PM Many newcomers need to overcome the novelty of being at State to do well. The return enterants tend to do better their second time. Veterans ussually do well and place. I have seen this trend consistantly through the years. I call it tunnel shock!



yub	Mar 1 2011, 09:37 PM Post #1901
Super Fan Posts: 317 Group: Die Hard Member #6,701 Joined: December 3, 2006	Hutchfan13 Mar 1 2011, 05:05 PM yub Mar 1 2011, 10:25 AM Our section has some very tough expeierenced wrestlers. I hope others take some of them for granted like Hutchfan13 seems to have done. I don't take anyone for grant it. I would be happy if Section 2AA has numerous champions, but the reality is, the group isn't as experienced as you think. Newcomers (15 of 28) Westerlund, L. Zilverberg, Sweeney, Lloyd, Madson, Dobmeier, Hartwig, Delwiche, Cihak, Gallus, White, Z. Dvorak, Arroyo, Kichler, Butcher Second-year state entrants (8 of 28) Betchwars, Retzlaff, Brownlee, G. Fogarty, Stadnick, Pesch, N. Dvorak, Neaton Third-year state entrants (5 of 28) Z. Frederich, J. Siegle, T. Zilverberg, Rutt, Kroells Last year Section 2AA had five wrestlers in the semifinals (Kroells, Fleming, Frederich, Hansen and Brinkman) - two in the finals (Kroells and Fleming) and one champion (Fleming). To predict six in the semifinals is about right. I'm excited to see how a few of the newcomers wrestle in their first big show most notably Madson, L. Zilverberg, Dobmeier and Westerlund. Will this be the year for veterans Frederich, Zilverberg, Siegle and Rutt to win a title? How will the group of second-year entrants fare in their second time at the X? Should be fun. Good luck Section 2AA!!! Okay, I did some homework and your assessments are right on the money. 3 timers only 2 have placed 1 placed twice 2 timers only 1 placed Fleming is the only first time entrant in recent history to win a title from 2AA (What a Freak) Yet, trends like everything else don't always hold true. So best of luck to all our 2AA boys and remember a little mean is good for you, bad for them.



OLDMATRASLER	Mar 2 2011, 05:21 PM Post #1902
Super Fan Posts: 408 Group: Die Hard Member #1,332 Joined: January 23, 2005	Good luck to all 2AA participants at State. Here we go !!!!!!



Jeep'n	Mar 4 2011, 05:14 PM Post #1903
Fantastic Posts: 2,151 Group: Die Hard Member #10,213 Joined: January 17, 2008	Congrats to SW for making it to the team finals in class AA. Your hard work really showed and you should be proud of your accomplishments this year. Good luck to you in the individuals as well!



BigPoppa11	Mar 4 2011, 07:39 PM Post #1904
Fantastic Posts: 1,705 Group: Die Hard Member #4,855 Joined: February 3, 2006	Scott West wrestlers still in it. Semis- 135- Gabe Fogarty 140- Jake Siegle 145- Charlie Pesch 215- Michael Kroells WB's 103-Luke Betchwars 112-Luke Zilverberg 130-Tyler Dobmeier 152-Tyler Zilverberg 160-Nick Dvorak 189-Zach Dvorak 4 guaranteed placers. The most they have ever had is 5 I think. Edited by BigPoppa11, Mar 4 2011, 07:40 PM.



BigPoppa11	Mar 4 2011, 07:44 PM Post #1905
Fantastic Posts: 1,705 Group: Die Hard Member #4,855 Joined: February 3, 2006	Other 2AA wrestlers in Semis- 135- Zach Friedrich 145- Joey Stadnick HWT- Derek Butcher Congrats to them A lot weaker section this year but at least there are 7 guaranteed placers.



goTigersgo	Mar 4 2011, 10:10 PM Post #1906
Fanatic Posts: 908 Group: Die Hard Member #9,925 Joined: December 30, 2007	All ten Scott West wrestlers are still alive after day one.



CC SportsGuy	Mar 4 2011, 10:54 PM Post #1907
Super Fan Posts: 480 Group: Die Hard Member #9,643 Joined: December 11, 2007	How about Charlie Pesch? Wins 2-1 and then dominates in the quarters before getting a pin. WHAT A DAY! What a match between Fogarty and Garness! Too bad it was in the quarters and not the semis. Fogarty, who lost 5-2 on Thursday, led 10-4 or 5 entering the third and a stalling call with three seconds left sent the match to OT. Never seen two coaches jump in the air and hug at the same time! Very nice wins by Stadnick in triple overtime and Siegle in a tight one. I predicted five, Section 2AA got seven in the semis. Great job!



OLDMATRASLER	Mar 4 2011, 11:40 PM Post #1908
Super Fan Posts: 408 Group: Die Hard Member #1,332 Joined: January 23, 2005	Fogarty's win was huge!!!!!!! Garness is a great wrestler. That was almost worth the over priced admission and food. Pesch continues to suprize anyone who does not know him as a wrestler. He has been here before.



yub	Mar 5 2011, 12:18 AM Post #1909
Super Fan Posts: 317 Group: Die Hard Member #6,701 Joined: December 3, 2006	Some great wrestling! Ya gotta love it! Tomorrow should be just as exciting. I wish all our wrestlers from 2AA the best.



Jeep'n	Mar 5 2011, 08:25 AM Post #1910
Fantastic Posts: 2,151 Group: Die Hard Member #10,213 Joined: January 17, 2008	BigPoppa11 Mar 4 2011, 07:44 PM Other 2AA wrestlers in Semis- 135- Zach Friedrich 145- Joey Stadnick HWT- Derek Butcher Congrats to them A lot weaker section this year but at least there are 7 guaranteed placers. Derek looks to be peaking at the right time... After the big win he just made happen, you have to believe he can continue to knock off anyone they put in front of him. Good luck against Stoll...I would love to see Derek get a pin in this match.



Jeep'n	Mar 5 2011, 02:20 PM Post #1911
Fantastic Posts: 2,151 Group: Die Hard Member #10,213 Joined: January 17, 2008	Looks like 16 in the medal rounds. I think I counted everyone. 8 from SW 8 from a mix of the other 2AA Schools 3 in the finals (Fogarty / Friederich part 3 tied 1-1) (Kroells / Gullickson part 3 Michael leads 2-0) Any predictions for the 3 finalist? After Fogarty took down Garness, I have to give him the slightest of an edge. My money is on Kroells. He has become even more dominant since the last time he seen Gulickson. Who's has the best shot for 3rd? Good luck to all the wrestlers from 2AA...



3/4 Neilson	Mar 5 2011, 04:21 PM Post #1912
Fanatic Posts: 980 Group: Die Hard Member #6,483 Joined: November 6, 2006	Friederich, Kroells Will be our Champs!



BigPoppa11	Mar 5 2011, 09:39 PM Post #1913
Fantastic Posts: 1,705 Group: Die Hard Member #4,855 Joined: February 3, 2006	3/4 Neilson Mar 5 2011, 04:21 PM Friederich, Kroells Will be our Champs! 50 percent right. Congrats to Arroyo though, he wrestled a great tournament.



Jeep'n	Mar 5 2011, 10:39 PM Post #1914
Fantastic Posts: 2,151 Group: Die Hard Member #10,213 Joined: January 17, 2008	All I can say about Fogarty is WOW...With the exception of the reversal, which made remedied right away, he set the pace and controlled the match. Congrats to him and Kroells on their state championships. Congrats to all the 2AA place winners. You should all be proud of your accomplishments!



Jeep'n	Mar 5 2011, 10:44 PM Post #1915
Fantastic Posts: 2,151 Group: Die Hard Member #10,213 Joined: January 17, 2008	BigPoppa11 Mar 5 2011, 09:39 PM 3/4 Neilson Mar 5 2011, 04:21 PM Friederich, Kroells Will be our Champs! 50 percent right. Congrats to Arroyo though, he wrestled a great tournament. Yes, Arroyo did an awesome job. I have always enjoyed seeing him do well considering the kid has a smile on his face regardless of the outcome! Congrats young man. Your earned it!



wrestling father 1	Mar 6 2011, 08:35 AM Post #1916
Fantastic Posts: 1,196 Group: Die Hard Member #6,109 Joined: June 8, 2006	wrestling father 1 Feb 28 2011, 05:36 PM 3/4 Neilson Feb 28 2011, 01:48 PM Who is going to make the podium? Section 2AA State Participants 103 Luke Betchwars SW Trevor Westerland NP 112 Luke Zilverberg SW Hunter Retzlaff SP 119 Aaron Sweeney WM/ML Matt Lloyd MLLC 125 Eric Madson HUTCH Mason Brownlee MLLC 130 Tyler Dobmeier SW Mitchell Hartwig GSL/LP 135 Zach Friederich MLLC Gabe Fogarty SW 140 Jake Seigle SW Stephen Delwiche GSL/LP 145 Joey Stadnick WM/ML Charlie Pesch SW 152 Tyler Zilverberg SW Cole Cihak NU 160 Nick Divorak SW Chris Gallus DEL 171 Zack Rutt MLLC Kyle White HUTCH 189 Taylor Neaton WM/ML Zach Davorak SW 215 Micheal Kroells SW Mario Arroyo MLLC 285 Derek Butcher DEL Schoen Krichler WAC My guess would be: 103: Both but I see Westerland placing higher 112: Zilverberg 119: No one 125: maybe Madison 130: Dobmeier 135: Both could be finals 140: Seigle 145: Stadnick 152: Zilverberg 160: no one 171: Rutt 189: no one 215: Kroells 285: no one 12 of 16 on the podium not to bad :) Great job guys, Good to see Michael get the win. Luke did better than I expected, little dynamo. Most seniors finished it out strong!!!



OLDMATRASLER	Mar 6 2011, 08:00 PM Post #1917
Super Fan Posts: 408 Group: Die Hard Member #1,332 Joined: January 23, 2005	Congrats to Scott West for being the State AA Runner up team. Simley should go back to AAA where they belong. 2 and 1/2X more students than SW. Congrats to Stauf and Rip for AA coaches of the year. 2AA well represented at State with 12 placing at State (as predicted). Congrats to Mike Kroells and Gabe Fogarty as State Champions. BTW Big Poppa 11, look back at my predictions for Hastings vs SW, KM vs SW and how many place winners SW will have. Dead on !!! I currently have the braggin rights for SW predictions. Sorry for tooting my own horn.



Stealth	Mar 7 2011, 09:35 AM Post #1918
Wrestling Fan Posts: 34 Group: Member Member #10,379 Joined: January 28, 2008	OLDMATRASLER Mar 6 2011, 08:00 PM Congrats to Scott West for being the State AA Runner up team. Simley should go back to AAA where they belong. 2 and 1/2X more students than SW. Found this on another thread: Scott West is a cooperative between Jordan (enrollment 461) and Belle Plain (enrollment 442), which brings their combined enrollment to 893. Simley comes in at 1022.



Flavor Flav	Mar 7 2011, 10:24 AM Post #1919
Super Fan Posts: 340 Group: Die Hard Member #679 Joined: January 5, 2005	I thought Scott West was a co-op between 3 schools: Belle Plain, Jordan, and Holy Family. Add them together and you have to be getting close to Simely's enrollment.



BigPoppa11	Mar 7 2011, 10:43 AM Post #1920
Fantastic Posts: 1,705 Group: Die Hard Member #4,855 Joined: February 3, 2006	OLDMATRASLER Mar 6 2011, 08:00 PM Congrats to Scott West for being the State AA Runner up team. Simley should go back to AAA where they belong. 2 and 1/2X more students than SW. Congrats to Stauf and Rip for AA coaches of the year. 2AA well represented at State with 12 placing at State (as predicted). Congrats to Mike Kroells and Gabe Fogarty as State Champions. BTW Big Poppa 11, look back at my predictions for Hastings vs SW, KM vs SW and how many place winners SW will have. Dead on !!! I currently have the braggin rights for SW predictions. Sorry for tooting my own horn. Hmmm lets see here. Your predictions: SW vs. Hastings-I didnt find one SW vs. KM-SW by 12 or less (sw won so I will give it to ya) Placers-7 or 8 (wish wash but I will give it to ya) My predictions SW vs. Hastings- Right (sw won) SW vs. KM- Right (sw won) SW vs. Simley- Right (sw lost) That gives me 3 right and you......two. Lol i win You failed to do a prediction for SW vs. Simley :). And I was closer on the KM prediction, and the Hastings prediction ;) But I have to turn in all of my black and silver so I guess you can be the new prediction king. And I guess I could have guessed placers. But I would have said 5, I did guess champs and actually gave Scott West the benifet of the doubt in some matches. But I guess since I didnt pick all 10 Scott West wrestlers to win state that makes me a traitor? Edited by BigPoppa11, Mar 7 2011, 01:38 PM.



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