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Jan 26 2012, 10:21 AM

sitandspin

Jan 26 2012, 07:19 AM

!!!!!

Jan 25 2012, 01:08 PM

sitandspin

Jan 24 2012, 10:56 PM

I know it's cool seeing your kids name in the rankings, but it doesn't mean much. Come sections either they make it to state or not and NO ONE remembers whether they were ranked during the year.

I think with the depth in section 2AA rankings will have some play into things. It does help with a seeding meeting. And, with the depth at some weights in 2AA it could make the difference of going to state and not.

Yes, I know you still have to place top 2, but sometimes the difficutly of the road there makes a difference.

So, I agree, it does not mean everything, but I would disagree that it does not mean much.

Well maybe, but most of the coaches probably look at head-to-head matches together or between similar opponents, record, level of competition, etc. The rankings are usually pretty good for the top 3, but once you get down to the bottom you could probably switch a number of kids that are very close. At sections I would guess figuring out the #1, #2 or even the #3 seed is not that difficult, it's the 4-6 that people argue.

In most cases, but not all. Take 126 for example.

Madson
Lloyd
Retzlaff
Zilverberg
Sweeney

Who are the top 3?

sitandspin

Jan 26 2012, 10:05 PM

Okay, it's one weight class that is extremely deep, if they all stay there. I doubt the coaches say, "but he's ranked higher by The Guillotine". Maybe I would be suprised, though the raters do a great job, they don't get to watch all the kids thoughout the year. Plus what if a guy is at rank #3 at 132 and goes to 126, but another guys at 126 is ranked #2? Does the guy at 126 automatically get the Section #1 seed because he's ranked higher or the 132 pounder coming down because you think he will be even stronger? The record, head-to-head, common opponents and schedule strength is play a major part.

OLDMATRASLER

Jan 29 2012, 04:52 PM

What...no chatter.....keep the tread alive.

!!!!!

Jan 27 2012, 12:41 PM

sitandspin

Jan 26 2012, 10:05 PM

Okay, it's one weight class that is extremely deep, if they all stay there. I doubt the coaches say, "but he's ranked higher by The Guillotine". Maybe I would be suprised, though the raters do a great job, they don't get to watch all the kids thoughout the year. Plus what if a guy is at rank #3 at 132 and goes to 126, but another guys at 126 is ranked #2? Does the guy at 126 automatically get the Section #1 seed because he's ranked higher or the 132 pounder coming down because you think he will be even stronger? The record, head-to-head, common opponents and schedule strength is play a major part.

I agree. Head-to-head is an obvious #1 criteria. Common opponents....2nd. However, sometimes there are neither; especially if wrestlers are bumping weights. Then it may come down to two coaches (who may be a little bias ;o) saying their wrestler is better than the other. At that point, it is usually open to a vote among coaches......who often times are "buddies" with one of the coaches and not the other. Therefore, it could be brought up that a supposed "non-bias" guillotine rater thinks kid A is better than kid B.

I agree with you on most of this sitandspin. I do, however, think the ratings can, and do, come into play at times in seeding meetings. Believe it or not, not all coaches are knowledgeable with many other wrestlers in the state other than their own. In this situation, the said coach WILL go off of what the "rank" is.

hwt285

Jan 31 2012, 08:03 AM

thoughts on the new rankings individuals and teams who should and shouldnt be?

sitandspin

Jan 31 2012, 12:27 PM

It's interesting to see where everyone is weighing in lately. Some weigh in 1 or 2 classes below where they started, but have moved back up in recent weeks. I know some of it is for team match-ups, but it will be interesting to see where kids land at Section individuals. Any scoop on where some of these guys are going to end up?

FRANK

Jan 30 2012, 02:39 PM

What was the score of the New Prague / Farmington Dual last thursday?

tileman

Jan 31 2012, 04:23 PM

FRANK

Jan 30 2012, 02:39 PM

What was the score of the New Prague / Farmington Dual last thursday?

Found this on the New Prague Times website. The reason they didn't have a score last week.

Wrestling team taking unwanted break


The New Prague High School wrestling team is getting an unexpected, and unwelcome, week off of competition after a possible exposure to the herpes gladiatorum virus at a recent meet. While no Trojan has reported symptoms of the skin infection, the team has postponed its meet with Farmington scheduled for Jan. 26 and will have only conditioning practices - no contact - until Monday, Jan. 30, as a precaution. The Trojans are tentatively scheduled to return to competition Thursday, Feb. 2, at Farmington. Read more in the February 2, 2012, print edition of The New Prague Times

FRANK

Jan 30 2012, 02:39 PM

What was the score of the New Prague / Farmington Dual last thursday?