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2AA Team & Individuals; Top contenders
Topic Started: Jun 23 2008, 11:03 AM (737,755 Views)
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103 Kelvington (9 - 4 dec) Reyant 0 – 3
113 Flynn (17 - 2 TF) Knutson 0 – 8
120 Backlund (5 - 1 dec) Nelson 0 – 11
126 Parriott (3 – 1 dec) Siegle 3 – 11
132 Berg (4 – 1 dec) Weierke 6 – 11
138 Reinartz (19 – 7 maj) Ackermann 10 – 11
145 Zilverberg (7 – 3 dec) Parriott 10 – 14
152 Heinz (6 – 3 dec) Abraham 13 – 14
160 Fogarty – forfeit 13 – 20
170 Dahlke (4 – 18 maj) Maruska 13 – 24
182 Schultz (3 – 9 dec) Gullickson 13 – 27
195 Sirek (5 – 0 dec) Carter 16 – 27
220 Preston (:30 fall) Staples 22 – 27
285 LaFavor (3:45 fall) Kochlin 28-27
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hometowner123
Jan 3 2013, 05:58 PM
It has to have been 10+ years since NP beat SW? It happened in 1999 when NP took 3rd but has it since then....
It has to be 10+ years since SW did not have a Dvorak in there line-up!! I can't remember the last time there wasn't one til this year.
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Jan 3 2013, 08:46 PM
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Jan 2 2013, 07:19 PM
Is danny mcdonnell Scott west's "Secret Weapon?
Seriously! It looks like SW has a huge 9th grader that they will be tring to get in the big matches towards the end of the season. It looks like they are tring to build his confidence a little right now in easy matches, but at 6'5" 280lbs he will be a beast in the next couple of years. Nothing against McDonnell, but it doesn't look like the coaches have to much faith in him!
who was the other SW heavyweight wrestling jv at rumble
Scott West had 3 heavyweight at the Rumble JV Tournement. Daniel Kochlin 3rd, Josiah Schatz 6th and Danny Mcdonnell went 2-2. Not sure who they wrestled against NP, some say McDonnell and some say Schatz, who knows it might of been Kochlin?
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Jan 6 2013, 10:15 AM
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Jan 3 2013, 08:46 PM
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Jan 3 2013, 06:33 PM
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Jan 2 2013, 07:19 PM
Is danny mcdonnell Scott west's "Secret Weapon?
Seriously! It looks like SW has a huge 9th grader that they will be tring to get in the big matches towards the end of the season. It looks like they are tring to build his confidence a little right now in easy matches, but at 6'5" 280lbs he will be a beast in the next couple of years. Nothing against McDonnell, but it doesn't look like the coaches have to much faith in him!
who was the other SW heavyweight wrestling jv at rumble
Scott West had 3 heavyweight at the Rumble JV Tournement. Daniel Kochlin 3rd, Josiah Schatz 6th and Danny Mcdonnell went 2-2. Not sure who they wrestled against NP, some say McDonnell and some say Schatz, who knows it might of been Kochlin?
it was kochlin who was announced

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The last time NP beat Scott West was 1998. With Hutch, Watertown, NP, and Scott West - it appears the title for Section 2AA is up for grabs. This Thursday it is Watertown & NP wrestling, and next week - Watertown and Scott West.
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Seeds for Team Sections:
1) New Prague
2) Scott West
3) Watertown-Mayer
4) Hutchinson
5) Waconia

... If NP beats Watertown Thursday, and Scott West defeats Watertown.
I think Watertown matches up well against NP so that will be a good one to watch. Wonder how it will work if NP loses?

Each then would be 1-1 against each other for the top 3 seeds!
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I do not know if we should put Watertown in the same class as New Prague and Scott West. It seems to me they are not that good.
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Seriously.
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I would not sell WM short. The were 1 point below NP at the MN X-mas tourney and placed 5 wrestlers that day.

I seriously doubt SW and NP are doing anything but taking them seriously.
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They have never come through in the past and an individual tournament is not the same as a dual meet. Just saying...
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I guess we will find out soon enough.
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IMO Watertown is a better individual tournament team and Hutchinson is better at duels.
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I agree. They have always had some good individual but they are always a "semi-finals" team in duals at the end of the year. Scott West on the other hand has always both individuals and team concepts going on. NP must have it going on this year too...
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Jan 7 2013, 10:48 AM
I do not know if we should put Watertown in the same class as New Prague and Scott West. It seems to me they are not that good.
I would put Watertown and Hutch right with NP and Scott West. I believe all 4 of them can beat the other any given day. I still dont see how people can put Watertown in front of Hutch? Have they wrestled eachother? Its good to be a fan of 2AA right know with a lot of teams in the section turning it on lately!!
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I still think SW has the upper hand. "Been there done that" is the real advantage between these teams at tournament time.
SW
NP
Hutch
WM

In my opinion...
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Jan 7 2013, 02:07 PM
I still think SW has the upper hand. "Been there done that" is the real advantage between these teams at tournament time.
SW
NP
Hutch
WM

In my opinion...
If N-P goes unbeaten they have to be #1.
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Close match does not mean same outcome next match.
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With Watertown having no head-head dual with Watertown - it could come down to how they they score at the Hutchinson Tournament on a individual scoring basis.
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Jan 7 2013, 03:25 PM
Close match does not mean same outcome next match.
True, but if you look at last Friday's match, M. Parriott led until halfway through the 3rd period and Giles was not in the lineup. G. Parriott and Siegle will probably always be close but an advantage has to go to Parriott. The rest of the matches (on both sides) were close but the outcome was never greatly contested. With a different coin flip SW may be able to send out some better matchups but as it is now, NP has a small advantage.
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Jan 7 2013, 02:07 PM
I still think SW has the upper hand. "Been there done that" is the real advantage between these teams at tournament time.
SW
NP
Hutch
WM

In my opinion...
Don't underestimate the power of a dream! NP, Hutch, and WM have been waiting for this moment for a long time, granted SW will not go down willingly but its the first time in many years that teams from the section can compete with them. So "been there done that" means nothing...
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A few points....going into the 220 wt the score between SW and NP was 27 to 16 SW lead. NP needs to get over it's self. Hats off to NP for winning that dual by 1 point with 2 pins in a row but if you think for one minute that SW is not making adjustments to prevent a repeat your crazy.

SW will still be the team to beat, number one seed or not. I will be the first to congratulate NP if they pull off another upset and cheer them on in state, (chances are it just won't happen).
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Who said anything that SW will not make adjustments? It's a given that the they will. Likewise I do not expect NP to sit on their laurels either. I wouldn't discount the two pins NP got at the end. If NP, Hutch, or Watertown keep it close through the lower and middle weights they all gain a big advantage in the upper weights.
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Jan 7 2013, 06:02 PM
A few points....going into the 220 wt the score between SW and NP was 27 to 16 SW lead. NP needs to get over it's self. Hats off to NP for winning that dual by 1 point with 2 pins in a row but if you think for one minute that SW is not making adjustments to prevent a repeat your crazy.

SW will still be the team to beat, number one seed or not. I will be the first to congratulate NP if they pull off another upset and cheer them on in state, (chances are it just won't happen).
Very good point. I'm sure NP was not depending on Nathan Preston pinning scott west's 220lber and I'm sure SW will make sure that it doesn't happen again.
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Scott West won the coin flip, had their full line up in, and for some reason Giles wasnt wrestling. Those were 3 things that went SW way and they lost. If you dont think that NP will get 2 pins again the last 2 matches, then you are a bigger homer than most!
You act like NP pulled off a few upsets to miraculously pull by. They didn't give up bonus points and won. If it was any other team, you would give the advantage to the winner. But since it's Scott West, they must have had a bad match right?
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Lighten up Francis...NP won a close dual. Congrats to them. (I love that line in Stripes)

But it was by one point and both teams have adjustments they can do so you are not going to see anyone roll over and proclaim the outcome of the next match is going the same as this one.

Too many variables can happen to both teams. Wrestlers get ill, get hurt, return to line ups, etc.

Enjoy your win now but don't expect instant respect as a dominate team or even a solid advantage with a 1 point victory. If NP wins again, I will congratulate them again. But I don't see them or SW as being any where close to a lock for the next round. Should be another great battle.
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Well said Jeep'n.
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I understand where you are coming from. But people act like SW is the only team to have the ability to make adjustments, or win for that matter. I just feel they get the benefit of the doubt when they lost.
If they would have beaten NP by 1 point, many would be saying how the next time it won't even be close.
If anything I think they will beat them worse next time.. Yeah I said it :)
(gosh will I be getting pounded by "quoters" in about a month and a half if/when I'm wrong LOL)

I just love watching wrestling. And, just like in any sport, the fans enjoy the tight battles. Hearing most people say it won't be close ruins the fairytale of a lot of us fanatics, who would like to see a new face from 2AA at State! Ha
Edited by PickHandzPickHandz, Jan 7 2013, 08:42 PM.
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Jan 7 2013, 06:28 PM
Scott West won the coin flip, had their full line up in, and for some reason Giles wasnt wrestling. Those were 3 things that went SW way and they lost. If you dont think that NP will get 2 pins again the last 2 matches, then you are a bigger homer than most!
You act like NP pulled off a few upsets to miraculously pull by. They didn't give up bonus points and won. If it was any other team, you would give the advantage to the winner. But since it's Scott West, they must have had a bad match right?
I was not in attendance, but wasn't LaFavor on his back in the first?? A lot of close matches, 6 "forsures" (IMO) Flynn, Reinartz, Ziverberg, Fogarty, Dahlke, and Preston.

Knutson got teched and Maruska got majored, that's called bonus points.

And you must be some super fan that you knew who won the flip, I bet that 10 out of 14 varsity wrestlers don't know who won the flip each match. You are Mr. Trojan wrestling or Coach T told you what to call??? Hmmm
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A few points....going into the 220 wt the score between SW and NP was 27 to 16 SW lead. NP needs to get over it's self. Hats off to NP for winning that dual by 1 point with 2 pins in a row but if you think for one minute that SW is not making adjustments to prevent a repeat your crazy.

SW will still be the team to beat, number one seed or not. I will be the first to congratulate NP if they pull off another upset and cheer them on in state, (chances are it just won't happen).
I like how people make excuses for each other!! It’s pretty humorous, SW lost get over it!! NP won the first time around, get over it! It doesn’t matter about that match, only for seeds. The only way SW gets seeded ahead of NP is if NP looses to Watertown and SW beats them, and I still don’t see SW getting seeded ahead of them. SW got the matches they wanted the first time around, maybe NP will win the flip and get the match ups they want the next time around. Scott West always turns it on at the end of the year and every team in the section knows that, so no one will be writing Scott West off saying they won’t be in the section finals. But No one should be writing them in the State tournament either especially since they lost to a team in there section.

New Prague is not lying down and eating cheetos waiting for Scott West to catch them, they are acting like they lost that dual and working just as hard if not harder then Scott West now.
Edited by Jared, Jan 7 2013, 08:54 PM.
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