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I heard it too; Losers Sent Packing Home from Fargo
Topic Started: Jul 24 2008, 09:18 PM (5,058 Views)
takethebite
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Chris, I've also PM'd some of these posters trying to talk about it in private and have failed to receive a response.

Do we have a name of a kid or anything that was supposedly left alone? On his way out, Andy Bisek drove by the parking lot where the kids were to be picked up, and there was no one there. He did this deliberately to make sure there were not still kids there. This took place between 11:30 and somewhere around 11:45-11:50. If there were kids alone on campus, they weren't in that parking lot.
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takethebite
Jul 27 2008, 11:28 AM
Chris, I've also PM'd some of these posters trying to talk about it in private and have failed to receive a response.

Do we have a name of a kid or anything that was supposedly left alone? Andy Bisek drove by the parking lot where the kids were to be picked up, and there was no one there. He did this deliberately to make sure there were not still kids there. This took place between 11:30 and somewhere around 11:45-11:50. If there were kids alone on campus, they weren't in that parking lot.

Why didn't coaches/leaders just stay with the kids and we would not have had this dilemma? Timelines aside it is obvious that coaches/leaders left kids alone otherwise there would have been no concern to drive back by. Does MNUSA have a policy for the safe deliveryof the kids? Or Is the "scatter" delivery the policy...and then having some one drive by in the dark the policy?
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peglegbob
Jul 27 2008, 11:11 AM
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Jul 27 2008, 10:58 AM
Moral of the story:

*There are always lunatic parents making an issue with something

*No one was hurt (besides halfiowafan's bruised ego)...no gang bangs, pediophile attacks, or bearded ninjas with num-chucks selling crack

*Augsburg is a pretty secure campus

*Finally, don't believe everything you read...think for yourself and appreciate the coaches, wrestlers, and families that make MN/USA wrestling such an awesome organization.

-Wojo

better brusied ego's persay than kids left alone anytime day or night. Thanks to each poster that was willing to weigh in to make sure it does not happen again. Also, from what we've heard from more than a handful of posters must be true, as you have confirmed, just like was reported...the coaches scattered and did not remain behind to be sure kids were not left alone. They apparently were. Whether it was 11:30 as you said or after midnight it does not change the importance of the turth of kids being left alone.


And another poster joins in to confirm he knows absolutely nothing about about what really happened.

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peglegbob
Jul 27 2008, 11:46 AM
Why didn't coaches/leaders just stay with the kids and we would not have had this dilemma? Timelines aside it is obvious that coaches/leaders left kids alone otherwise there would have been no concern to drive back by. Does MNUSA have a policy for the safe deliveryof the kids? Or Is the "scatter" delivery the policy...and then having some one drive by in the dark the policy?

I've sent you a couple PM's. I believe they send you a pop-up notification when you get them so you should have noticed. Please get back to me.
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Some of the responses indicate why parents haven't and don't say anything. Instead of people agreeing that the kids shouldn't be left alone people are calling concerned parents "sour grapes", "lunatics" and various other negative comments.

Wojo
Foolish comments. All of them. Concerned adults are not lunatics. Augsburg area is one of the bad areas in the city (ask the Augsburg wrestlers). You want to wait until something bad happens (great advice). People are thinking for themselves and giving good advice about not leaving kids alone. Everyone has thanked MN/USA for all they do. That's beside the point.

I'm not upset with anyone; even those of you who are foolish in thinking it doesn't matter if kids are left alone.
Yes, I know for a fact that kids have been left alone in the past.
The entire point is MN/USA has to have a plan so that kids are not left alone
I'm fairly sure it won't happen again so I'm done with this.
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Imabulldog
Jul 27 2008, 02:45 PM
Some of the responses indicate why parents haven't and don't say anything. Instead of people agreeing that the kids shouldn't be left alone people are calling concerned parents "sour grapes", "lunatics" and various other negative comments.

Of course people are going to get called out on an anonymous message board. If they are not personally bringing it to the attention of MN/USA they are either irresponsible themselves, don't really care that much, or nothing actually happened. Airing complaints on a public, anonymous message board and expecting something to be resolved is just foolish.
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I just want to thank MN USA Wrestling for the great opportunity that was given to my son. This was the first time he has ever done anything like this and he really enjoyed it. I personally could not believe the great deal the wrestlers got, five day on-site training camp, two singlest, shirt, a jacket and transportation to and from the tournament. My son told his little brother to quit BB so he could start taking part in these camps when he is a cadet next year.

Thanks again MN USA wrestling for the great opportunity and bargain that was provided.
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wrestlingfan47
Jul 27 2008, 02:59 PM
Imabulldog
Jul 27 2008, 02:45 PM
Some of the responses indicate why parents haven't and don't say anything. Instead of people agreeing that the kids shouldn't be left alone people are calling concerned parents "sour grapes", "lunatics" and various other negative comments.

Of course people are going to get called out on an anonymous message board. If they are not personally bringing it to the attention of MN/USA they are either irresponsible themselves, don't really care that much, or nothing actually happened. Airing complaints on a public, anonymous message board and expecting something to be resolved is just foolish.

Exactly. We are very concerned about the kids safety. Which is why I'm asking that if there really is/was an issue that somebody please contact me.
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Chris,

Does MN/USA have any sort of Risk Management policy? I'm sure an organization like yours/ours does for the protection of youth and adults.

Regardless of what happened or didn't happen last weekend it seems to me a policy covering the MN/USA's representatives responsibility when dropping off kids should be in writing.
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Unless MN/USA Wrestling is completely unresponsive to a complaint (which they don't seem to be), a message board is not the appropriate place for a complaint like this. The HONORABLE thing to do is to contact the appropriate people involved and give them an opportunity to look into it and respond privately, which apparently hasn't been done.
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