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UFC 91 Couture vs Lesnar; Its official!!
Topic Started: Sep 2 2008, 02:26 PM (1,654 Views)
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So much for spoon feeding Brock....this will be an incredible challenge for Lesnar.
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I told you all it was going to happen!!!
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You are a true visionary SL22...forgive me for not believing you... ;)

This should be a championship fight....I don't believe Randy ever relinquished the belt; Nog is the interim champion...it would be awesome if this would be a 5 rounder....
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http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/couture-b...-ufc-fold-14261
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I wonder who will get the takedowns in the fight?
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Sep 2 2008, 02:26 PM
So much for spoon feeding Brock....this will be an incredible challenge for Lesnar.

Couture is 45 i just see an end coming soon for him....Maybe not, but 45 in this game just seems old...Couture has proving a lot of people wrong but 45 is 45 and you are a step slower....

I think this is spoon feeding and if brock loses he should go back to wrestling..'
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It's scary to think of a guy with Brock's power, explosiveness, size, and intensity getting into an octagon with someone that age, I don't care how good they are or used to be. Brock is an animal, and could explode in the face of any opponent if he goes after them aggressively and is smart about it.
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Sep 3 2008, 07:28 AM
It's scary to think of a guy with Brock's power, explosiveness, size, and intensity getting into an octagon with someone that age, I don't care how good they are or used to be. Brock is an animal, and could explode in the face of any opponent if he goes after them aggressively and is smart about it.

Couture could very well outsmart him and submit/terrorize him in the clinch. He won the Heavyweight title at age 43/44 you know.


I can't wait for this fight I am definetly going to watch it. Couture used to be my favorite and now Lesnar is right up there for me so I hope this is a very fun/exciting match.
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Lesnar is just going to have to be smart about this match, but by the looks of his last match he has got his head straight and knows how to fight in the octagon. Brock is a smarter fighter so I have to go with him...
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Sep 3 2008, 07:47 AM
Couture could very well outsmart him and submit/terrorize him in the clinch. .

...It makes me sad to say it but that's how I see it going....I think Randy's game plan is to come straight ahead throwing straight punches down the middle, tying up in the clinch and then working hard from the inside....hopefully Lesnar's brute strength can keep him out of those situations.


You start to wonder though, at 45, how much does Couture have left in the tank? He also might be looking past Lesnar to get to Fedor....We all know how that worked out for Chuck when he agreed to fight Jardine prior to Wandy....
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Sep 3 2008, 09:22 AM
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Sep 3 2008, 07:47 AM
Couture could very well outsmart him and submit/terrorize him in the clinch. .

...It makes me sad to say it but that's how I see it going....I think Randy's game plan is to come straight ahead throwing straight punches down the middle, tying up in the clinch and then working hard from the inside....hopefully Lesnar's brute strength can keep him out of those situations.


You start to wonder though, at 45, how much does Couture have left in the tank? He also might be looking past Lesnar to get to Fedor....We all know how that worked out for Chuck when he agreed to fight Jardine prior to Wandy....

I guarantee Couture is not looking past Lesnar. He is way too smart. He sees what Brock is doing to very quality competition. And I don't think coming up the middle is going to do much good for Randy. Lesnar has too much power, Randy is going to have to work angles keeping Brock away from the double leg while still getting close enough to clinch
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Couture is gonna be giving up ALOT of size in this one. Probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-40 pounds.

Now, we all know he rocked Tim Sylvia's world and he was quite the smaller fighter in that contest. But let's be real.....the athleticism of Brock compared to Sylvia is night and day. Not to mention the power, speed, etc.

If I had to bet I would say that Brock will probably be able to overwhelm him with size and just kind of wear him down (assuming he doesnt get punched in the head :-). If he can take him down, I think he can smother him and ride him.

But obviously I'll never doubt Couture. He's a god. He might very well go out there and dominate Brock.

And I dont like the fact that I like both these fighters. I prefer rooting for an ass whooping on someones behalf. For this, I just wanna see a good fight.




Betting my left testicle on it.....

Brock Lesnar def. Randy Couture
(split decision)
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oh hella yes, this is a challenge for lesner like every other fight.... good luck Lesner
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I'm just angry XHD beat me to posting about it... :P
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Lesnar has some incredible size and power...
Couture is a great and visionary of the sport...
hopefully Randy fights Lesnar, and fights Fedor, and is done because i don't think he can fight like he once did at this age.
Lesnar wins by decision.
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Randy has only submitted two people in his 11 years fighting from what i have read. And I believe that will only help Lesnar. Brock is way to quick for Randy.
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Couture is certainly a better test than Shamrock is , that's for sure.

Couture has a complete game, he can strike (see Gabriel Gonzaga,Liddell,Rizzo), he can obviously grapple, and he does have a solid submission game.

No, he's not a great submission type but that's because in the past he could strike and grapple with most everyone. Now, his striking and grappling is not as good with his age so I see him really looking to sub Brock.

Let's face it, Brock has about 45lbs and about 14 years on Couture. He should have the superior wrestling game and overall strength advantage. Brock may be able to strike with him now but Couture is a pretty savy vet facing a still fairly inexperienced fighter.

This is a risky fight to take on this early for Brock.

I still see Brock winning this fight but I think there is a big chance for Brock's inexperience getting him in a bad spot and getting sub'd.
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There is no doubt that Couture is by far the better fighter, but the match-up is really bad for him. Couture is a really good wrestler, but Lesner will dominate him in that area. Couture technique has alway been to put a guy into the cage and throw him on the ground, but Brock isn't going againt the cage unless he wants to. Couture is the better, and more well rounded fighter, but his specialtys will be totaly nutrilzed in this fight. For him to win this fight we're going to have to see a totaly different Randy Couture.
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Brock better show up in the best shape of his life and pace himself plus it would be best not to let Randy hang around too long if possible. Should be a barn burner no doubt Go Lesnar!
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I agree that Randy is the more experienced fighter. But the guy is 15-8 he can be beat. And he isn't getting any younger. So I think if Brock connects like he did last fight Randy will go down. Brock is learning new skills everyday so I think every fight we see him he will be better then the fight before. I could be way off base but I can't wait to see this fight. Either way you have to give to Brock he could be taking about 10-15 easier fights first but he's not.
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I agree that Randy is the more experienced fighter. But the guy is 15-8 he can be beat. And he isn't getting any younger. So I think if Brock connects like he did last fight Randy will go down. Brock is learning new skills everyday so I think every fight we see him he will be better then the fight before. I could be way off base but I can't wait to see this fight. Either way you have to give to Brock he could be taking about 10-15 easier fights first but he's not.

You sure you know who Couture is?
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I agree that Randy is the more experienced fighter. But the guy is 15-8 he can be beat. And he isn't getting any younger. So I think if Brock connects like he did last fight Randy will go down. Brock is learning new skills everyday so I think every fight we see him he will be better then the fight before. I could be way off base but I can't wait to see this fight. Either way you have to give to Brock he could be taking about 10-15 easier fights first but he's not.

You sure you know who Couture is?

I am just saying that everyday Brock gets better. And everyday Randy is just trying to hold on to what he had. Liddel was a bad a$$ but now at age 38 he has dropped 3 of 4.
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You can never really tell with Randy...his career has truly been up and down like a roller coaster ride....

His two back to back losses to Ricco Rodriguez and Josh Barnett kind of leads you to believe that his fighting career is on the down side...then he wins against Chuck, who at the time was considered unbeatable. he beats/dominates Ortiz ...then he loses that crazy match against Belfort where is rips his eye lid open and loses due to referee stoppage....he subsequently wins the rematch...he once again looks at the top of his game....Chuck then knocks him senseless in their rematch, where he doesn't look very good at all. His match against Van Arsdale was a win but it wasn't very dominating and then he loses again to Chuck...so then you think, man it is over.

But in his last two matches against Gonzaga and Syliva, he has looked absolutely spectacular. I think if he would have fought Brock 4 or 5 months after his fight against Gonzaga he probably would have been at the top of his game....he hasn't fought for a year...he has been in an emotional court battle with the UFC. His focus has been on his clothing line and getting the big money fight with Fedor...I don't think he will mentally be ready to handle what Brock has to bring.
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I do not like this fight. I love both fighters. If it goes five, Couture wins. Brock will have to stop Couture in the first couple of rounds to win. The way the former elite have fallen lately (Hughes, Franklin, Liddell, Jackson, Henderson, Rua, Cro Cop) you gotta believe Randy can certainly fall too. I can't wait to watch the fight!
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