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Kimbo Exposed; What a fraud!
Topic Started: Oct 5 2008, 01:04 PM (1,375 Views)
TheOriginal CK
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Kimbo was knocked out on 12 seconds by a scrauny 200 lb white boy with pink hair. I guess his run in MMA is over unless they want to put him in with another patsy who might also knock him out cold. Plus, I don't think I have ever seen a guy look so surprised after collecting a "W" as Seth did. hilarious!!! :D
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http://z7.invisionfree.com/The_Guillotine_...pic=18912&st=30
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Sharkey, I don't get it. :blink: ...I opened the link and it puts me to another thread very similar to this one..
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...okay, I get it now :D
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i don't understand why you think he is a fraud. he's just moved up to main event status too quick. not really his fault. elite xc is the fraud for making him a main eventer. ufc is doing almost the same thing with lesnar although lesnar has way more talent i think but a little early in career to be fighting couture for belt. i just think a fraud is a little harsh.
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He's only a fraud to someone who is a dummy and bought into all the hype.
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His underground fight with Sean Gannon showed many in the know that he had a ways to go. Gannon is a mid-tier fighter at best...and Kimbo ended up taking a whooping from him.

The UFC tried to procure Kimbo's services when his popularity was at its peak prior to EliteXc but couldn't...Dana and his crew then brought in Sean Gannon, the man the beat Kimbo. Well Gannon took an butt whooping that can't be measured from Brandon Lee Hinkle at UFC 57. I think that's when Dana realized..hmmm, this Kimbo guy maybe isn't as good as everyone thinks he is.

But you have to give Kimbo his props; he hired Bas Rutten as his trainer...and he seems very focused. Its the 500k he got paid that kills me.


You have guys like Logan, who works just as hard if not harder....and although I don't know how much he got paid for his last fight...I am just going to guess its probably a little short of the 500k mark. But you guys tell me, what fight was more entertaining Logan's last fight, or Kimbo's 14 second debacle.

Logan, I think you need to get yourself a Polish Mohawk like Kimbo's and start hanging the bling off your neck...I think your beard puts his to shame :D Cropduster and I will comedown to your house and we can hire someone to film you throwing us through a fence our two...just give us a cut of your first 500k payday.
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He's a fraud because he was never a Mixed Martial Artist as he and his handlers portrayed him to be. He was a not talent hack who could beat up other idiots in back yards and post the film on youi tube.

Do you mean the millions of rubes who bought into all the hype??

I for one never did, I called him a fraud from very beginning.

His presence has done signficantly more harm to the legitimacy of MMA than you may realilze. This is just more ammo for boxing purests to sit back and say "see I told you so!" This guy was never a legitimate mixed martial artist. He has virtually no pedigree or formal training.

I agree that the fact that he is a fraud is not completely his fault. His handlers and those after the money rush had a lot to do with it as well. However, he has been more than willing to spout the rethoric. B)

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How was he not a mixed martial artist? What is his 3-1 record in?
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dude if you can't figure out the answer to that question on your own, it would be of no help to you for me to explain. B)
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a fraud? i wouldnt go that far...the guy definitely is not a well-rounded individual which would make it tough for him in the cage....but he can throw some pretty good punches...its not like he's some completely un-talented hack....he's just more of a boxer than anything else. anybody can get caught and KO'd at any moment...he's in there training and fighting....gotta give kudos for that.
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Kudos are one thing, but when i hear people speaking of him like a phenom, or comparing him to other fighters like Bas or others...
Makes me SICK!
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You really can't help comparing him to the elite fighters...he's been showered with 500k a 14 second loss.


Yes, I get it...everyone gets caught. But let's please put this into perspective...the following fighters have had the same amount or in some cases more fights under their belt.

Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos -- $4,000/$4,000 win bonus
Yoko Takahashi -- $2,000
Conor Heun -- $2,500/$2,500 win bonus
James Edson Berto -- $6,000
Mikey Gomez -- $2,000/$2,000 win bonus
Lorenzo Borgomeo -- $1,500
David Gomez -- $1,000
Bryan Hamade -- $500/$500 win bonus
Jorge Boechat -- $1,000
Nicolae Cury -- $750/$750 win bonus

If Kimbo would have worked his way through the rankings and legitimatized himself as a true MMA contender...then yes, his 14 second loss would have been easier to swallow.

Is it Kimbo's fault?....of course not....If someone promised me 500k a fight and numerous other incentives to be catapaulted into representing a MULTI MILLION dollar venture, I probably would have hopped on it as well.

Kimbo's next fight is definitely a crossroads fight for him...it will have to be a hand picked opponent...and he will have to win a convincing fashion.
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Oct 8 2008, 11:14 AM




Kimbo's next fight is definitely a crossroads fight for him...it will have to be a hand picked opponent...and he will have to win a convincing fashion.

after seeing his last fight, the number of potential opponents that he could beat in a convincing fashion is somewhat limited. what kind of $ does his opponent make? for half what kimbo makes he can whup me in a very convincing fashion!
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I am not one for sticking up for Kimbo...but under different circumstances, I think he might be able to be a legitimate MMA contender. Rather than be hyped as the second coming...he should have started in the smaller shoes and put his time in like everyone else. Truly, everyone potentially can get caught...if you touch someone right on the chin with 4 ounce gloves...it can be over in a blink.

Seth Petruzelli is a legitamate opponent..he was a K1 fighter...if you are fighting in K1, you are good striker...he has a 10-4 record in MMA.


...and lets put it into perspective...Kimbo has probabley grossed over a million and half dollars over his last four fights....fighting in the smaller shoes might have grossed him 10g's at the most.
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Oct 8 2008, 08:02 AM
dude if you can't figure out the answer to that question on your own, it would be of no help to you for me to explain. B)

Last I heard if you compete in mixed martial arts, you are a mixed martial artist.
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Did we all not see this coming?
I mean, we all know he was getting "hand-picked opponents"...
I was waiting for him to fight someone that would not only challenge him, but out-skill him...
is that seth petruzelli? maybe... he did get hella caught there, but thats not an excuse.
Is Kimbo a mixed martial artist? Yes.
He competes, he trains, and he works towards a goal like everyone else.
He just gets crap, talks crap and Isn't skilled as some who do the same.
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like i said-its elite xc's fault not kimbo's. maybe a little of the ufc's fault too as they try so hard to keep the other promotions down they have to resort to junk like making kimbo a main eventer
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Oct 8 2008, 06:34 PM

Is Kimbo a mixed martial artist? Yes.
He competes, he trains, and he works towards a goal like everyone else.

That's all I was arguing about.
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How can you say Kimbo is a fraud he has been in several street fights and has only lost to gannon...ya he did get knocked out by some undersized guy with pink hair...but anyone can knock out anyone if they hit them right....Kimbo does need a lot of work to get more well rounded in mma but he is deff. no push over.
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Nov 5 2008, 11:21 AM
How can you say Kimbo is a fraud he has been in several street fights and has only lost to gannon...ya he did get knocked out by some undersized guy with pink hair...but anyone can knock out anyone if they hit them right....Kimbo does need a lot of work to get more well rounded in mma but he is deff. no push over.

There is a difference is street fighting is NOT MMA!
And his wins aren't over "quality" opponents... even though "quality" is so subjective...
Kimbo is exposed.
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FAIL!
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Fail to who? haha...
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