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| MMA; Future alternative to college wrestling? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 20 2008, 11:02 PM (682 Views) | |
| w/cheese89 | Oct 20 2008, 11:02 PM Post #1 |
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A thread on one of the other boards got me interested in this possibility. The possibility that MMA could one day draw high school grads away from wrestling in college. Is this a legitimate threat and if so, how far out is it? My personal thought is that it will happen when the fighters begin making serious bank. Again though, when will that be, if ever? |
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| bob | Oct 20 2008, 11:58 PM Post #2 |
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I don't think the bodys of high schoolers can take MMA. They might as well spend the 4 years in College getting better at wrestling and alot stronger. |
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| CropDuster | Oct 21 2008, 05:07 AM Post #3 |
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I don't know if it could change college wrestling much, but its already starting to stop and halt international style wrestling after college. My coach and I debate this somewhat often. He says that they should atleast attempt at the olympics and international style wrestling. But MMA is where the money's at outta college if you wanna combat and "use your wrestling". You're seeing it more and more now with guys like Johnny Hendricks, Rosholt, Phil Davis, and others. I've heard rumors of guys like Mocco and Perry as well. This is a growing trend, and if they look at the career of the likes of Davis and Hendricks, more will come... And thats a good thing. :) |
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| XHockeyDad | Oct 21 2008, 05:38 AM Post #4 |
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I think given the choice, one should choose college over MMA, but there are several wrestlers that don't have college as an alternative option. I think you will see more and more of these wrestler's attempting to make it in MMA. |
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| D.O'Neill | Oct 21 2008, 01:31 PM Post #5 |
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You'd have to be a pretty big dummy to go straight MMA from highschool unless you are some complete freak mma fighter and wrestling was just something you did. Look here now, mma will be there after you get a degree, but its gonnabe hard to get into school if you fail at making money in mma. |
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| w/cheese89 | Oct 21 2008, 09:53 PM Post #6 |
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That's a good point, Although there are a few kids who would be big/strong enough to pursue a career in MMA straight out of high school. You're right though, most kids aren't. How about college wrestlers leaving in the middle of their college career, as happens in football and basketball? College MMA? :blink: |
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| bob | Oct 21 2008, 11:12 PM Post #7 |
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Im saying most high schoolers not Tyler B :P . I guess I could see that as a possibility if the reward is high enough. Or some training in knowledge of submissions, boxing while wrestling in college. Instead of a jog to lose weight/get in better shape you could practice Boxing and Submissions as long as you don't try to submit/box people in a wrestling matches :o |
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| PostMortal | Oct 22 2008, 12:10 AM Post #8 |
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I just don't see this ever happening, at least not the way I think you're talking about. MMA is different than other sports. It's about marketing, building up your name, etc. Dana White isn't beating down the door of some high school kid to give him big bucks, and he never will. Why? Because who the heck is this high school kid??? That's what college can be used for. It can create a buzz. It can open the door, MMA wise, if you're a stud wrestler. People know who you are then, and you'll make more money in MMA. It would just be so hard for a young kid, just out of high school, to quickly build a name for himself in MMA for it to be a smart move financially. It might take four years of winning before the UFC comes calling. So why not go to school during those four years, too. Wrestle, build your name up that way, fight in the offseason ... and then bang, maybe you get snatched up for decent money by a big organization. Or at the very least, it might cut the time it will take you to build up your name/record. Anyway, that's a lot of rambling. The short answer is ... no. |
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| XHockeyDad | Oct 22 2008, 06:55 AM Post #9 |
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There are several tough wrestlers out there that will never make it in college because they are academically ineligible. They already have the work ethic, they just need to channel it to several disciplines rather than one. Wrestlers have proven to transition best into MMA because they have developed a core strength that can't be seen in other disciplines. There are many options for fighters starting off, hit the smaller shows on the reserves hook up with an established academy (Minnesota Martial Arts academy) and begin the path. Again, I am speaking to those wrestlers who don't have the opportunity to go to college. They still get to train and compete at a high level, and make a few dollars at it to boot. It beats working at footlocker or some other minimum wage job. :rolleyes: |
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| w/cheese89 | Oct 22 2008, 10:52 AM Post #10 |
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Dana White has never seen Tyler B before :lol: Good call bob.. :D Also, PostMortal, could a kid not attend college aaaand train for MMA? If he didn't wrestle, he could train year round in all aspects of the sport and have time to work a dead end job at footlocker! I'm sure most college coaches wouldn't want one of their boys getting banged up through an offseason hobby.. With that said, I don't see it happening on a large scale either. |
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| Icefish | Nov 3 2008, 03:24 PM Post #11 |
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Wrestling has been around a long time, I don't think the sport is in danger of going out of vogue. That being said, my boy has been wrestling since he was five, and choose to focus on grappling instead of wrestling with his HS team "this year". We consider grappling and Jiu jitsu another form like beach, freestyle, judo, grecco or sambo. The really great thing about wrestling different forms is that there is carry over, from one form to the next. We believe learning multiple forms may in the end make him an over all better athlete, and provide intellectual growth that he would'nt get by staying in the same mat room. Sensei and coach mean two different things, and thats only the beginning. The MMA thing takes years of cross training to develop. Most wrestlers in highschool and college are consumed with folkstyle, and few have a desire to take on more or break out of that mold. I do see MMA growing, as well as the foundation elements; but I don't believe wrestling has anything to worry about. Good topic! |
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