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205 lbs.; The Weight Class of The UFC.
Topic Started: Oct 24 2008, 09:33 PM (932 Views)
CropDuster
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I was watchin the re-run of Vera-Jardine, and it sparked my interest on this whole division, and how things could play out eventually...
A list of top 8ish:
Forrest Griffin
Rashad Evans
Quinton Jackson
Wanderlei Silva
Chuck Liddel
Lyoto Machida
Keith Jardine
Mauricio Rua

The 2nd Tier:
Houston Alexander
Mark Coleman?
Matt Hamil
James Irvin
Thiago Silva
Sokodjou
Brandon Vera

As of now, we have these matchups:
Forrest Griffin vs. Rashad Evans (Championship Title Fight) 92
Quinton Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva 92
Lyoto Machida vs. Thiago Silva ??
Mark Coleman vs. Mauricio Rua 93

With this and recent results, off my estimates:
Griffin wins.
Jackson wins.
Machida pwns.
Rua wins.

That sets up matchups like:
Griffin vs. Jackson/Silva winner (especially if Machida doesn't finish Silva)
Machida vs. Rashad?
Rua vs. Jardine?
Jackson/Silva Loser vs. Vera

Comments? Concerns?
Wow i need something to do on my friday nights... :D
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Jackson will never beat Silva....those beatings he got from Silva will always be in the back of his mind...just like Franklin will never beat Anderson Silva.


Machida and Evans would be an absolute horrible matchup...it might set the record for the least punches thrown. :lol:
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Ok so then you take Rashad vs. Rampage.
Silva vs. Machida (Contender Bout)
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Now we are talking.... :D

Rampage against EVANS would be a great fight.

(Wandy) Silva vs Machida would be an incredible match as well...
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Decent list, but I would switch Shogun and Thiago Silva.
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Ahhhhh Luiz Cane???????
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I would put Cane on the Tier 2 list...with the exception of Jardine, I don't think he could beat anyone on Cropduster's Tier 1 list.
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Chuck? He could beat chuck at this point. Plus I just think he's better overall than people give him credit for. He'll keep moving up the ranks. Definitely a Tier II option, but I'd put Chuck in that category, too.
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Oct 27 2008, 10:50 AM
Chuck? He could beat chuck at this point. Plus I just think he's better overall than people give him credit for. He'll keep moving up the ranks. Definitely a Tier II option, but I'd put Chuck in that category, too.

All that partying must be gettin to your head from this weekend, eh BP?
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CropDuster
Oct 27 2008, 10:57 AM
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Oct 27 2008, 10:50 AM
Chuck? He could beat chuck at this point. Plus I just think he's better overall than people give him credit for. He'll keep moving up the ranks. Definitely a Tier II option, but I'd put Chuck in that category, too.

All that partying must be gettin to your head from this weekend, eh BP?

Chuck tier 2? I hear a bong pipe gurglling in the distance...Bwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaa :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Not during my Desktop Publishing class!
Ha...

But as for Phersy... Who knows... :D
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Not you Cropduster :rolleyes: ....looks like PM is still celebrating from this weekend. :D
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Dude, I love chuck as much as the next guy ... heck, there's an autographed Chuck Liddell poster on the wall in my living room!!! When I got into MMA six years ago, Chuck was THE reason!

However, we're talking about a guy who is 1-3 in his last four fights. We're talking about a guy who has been KTFO twice in his last four fights, including once to a wrestler! We're also talking about a guy who lost to Keith Jardine (who I'm pretty sure most of you boys have said sucks right here on this very board).

Answer this ... find another top tier guy who is 1-3 in his past four fights ...

Like I said, I love Chuck. But he's no longer elite as a fighter. I hope he gets back to that level, I really do. If he can put together a little winning streak, then i'll say he's back. Problem is, he's probably one or two losses from retirement.
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Also, bongs/partying??? And I thought you guys knew me!

I went to the party simply because the UFC was on ... of course, I had to put on a costume to do it, but it was worth it to see my boy Sherk get a win!
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One of his three wins was against wandy...I am telling you he didn't have respect for Couture either prior to their first match up....and we all know how that turned out.

Rashad and that meat head Jardine <_< will get the beatings of their lives the next time they tap gloves...hopefully it will be trilogy for both, then we can witness four brutal beatings. :lol:
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You obviously think Chuck has more left in the tank than I think he does. I hope you're right!!!!!
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Jardine is a beast, XHD... no way it turns any different with ol' man Liddel... :D

I can only guess what PM was for Halloween...
He dressed up like Dana and had an "I'm Tito's $%*^!" shirt on haha!
all he had to do was walk around, let the drunks stay in the house, and swear to sound bad @$$
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No, not Dana. Though one of my friends did go as Kimbo, and he pulled it off perfectly. Had the beard perfect, skully, muscles, one hair patch on his peck ... even painted his body!!! And he's not a Kimbo fan, just to let you know. Oh, and i was able to knock him out with a jab in 14 seconds.

I actually went as a priest and my wife went as a nun ... it's as close as I'll ever get to being Catholic. My wife is catholic and I'm lutheran, so ... yeah.

Dana would have been a good one, though duster. You should do that this weekend, since your stewy football team doesn't have plans any more!!!
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Ha, Kimbo... Imagine if the Dana and Kimbo TUF rumors were true!
That would make for good TV.

Well, I don't even know what i'ma do this weekend, but I'm too well spoken for Dana White HA!
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