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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 19 2008, 12:34 PM (1,998 Views) | |
| McPlayer56 | Nov 27 2008, 04:35 PM Post #31 |
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Hope it dosnt happen Brock is not ready, There is a little of me who wants it to happen so Brock gets beat and sent back down to reality |
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| grecoguy1234 | Dec 1 2008, 08:16 PM Post #32 |
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F :blink: edor is a beast the 1st time i watched him i was shocked because the way i hered people talk about him but he proved me wrong.... i felt stupid. |
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| Eskimo Coyote | Dec 3 2008, 01:56 AM Post #33 |
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i guess i just simply do not understand why people want to just make love to Fedor. and why everyone thinks he would just destroy brock. im not saying brock would win the fight, because MMA has that good old submission rule. but c'mon people, he would manhandle him physically...again, not saying that brock is the greatest, just that fedor is not this man-god that everyone seems to think he is. i know that fedor is 29-1-1 or whatever, but i just cannot be impressed with anybody he has EVER beat. brock just beat randy couture. a guy who is light years better than anyone fedor has EVER even faced. with that said, he'll garner a little bit of respect from me if he can beat arlovski in dominant fashion, but i guess im just gonna say that i am totally unimpressed with this guy, even if im the only one. and yes, ive seen plenty of his fights. if he was a true competitor and thought he was the best in the world, he would sign with the ufc and fight guys like couture and brock. but instead hes stalling like a wrestler whos up by 12 points until hes too old to compete and cant take these fights with guys who would actually challenge him. the clock is ticking on his career and he knows it. why chance his legacy? why not take fights against schmendricks like tim sylvia just to make yourself seem great to the idiots who dont realize that sylvia is a joke of jokes. sorry for the rant, i just hate fedor so bad. |
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| XHockeyDad | Dec 3 2008, 07:24 AM Post #34 |
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I am far from being a nut hugger of anybody :lol: , but NOBODY puts together a strategy better than Fedor and his team.....NOBODY...he has an overhand right to leg pick combination that just can not be stopped. His hand speed is that of a lightweight...if you can spare a moment, go back and watch the Silvia fight....just prior to coming out to fight, they show him warming up in the back....I couldn't beleive the speed of his hands...and the exact punching combination he was practicing in the back, was the one he used to floor Silvia(Yes, I have too much time on my hands). Beat nobody? Nogueira(twice)? Coleman?, Randleman? Sobral? Hunt? Goodridge? Fujita? Herring? Schilt? Arona? Cro Cop? I am a huge fan of Brock...he needs at least three more fights under his belt before they can begin even THINKING about fighting Fedor. |
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| bob | Dec 3 2008, 10:38 AM Post #35 |
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After seeing Brock tire against Randy, at this time he would not be able to go 3 or 5 rounds with Fedor. He could very well win and even dominate the first 2 tho. |
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| Sharkey | Dec 3 2008, 08:14 PM Post #36 |
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Brock never looked tired to me in his last fight. I don't think he could go five with Fedor, but he looks like he can handle two or three rounds. |
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| CropDuster | Dec 3 2008, 09:47 PM Post #37 |
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Dude, as much as you can hate Fedor, you can't help but understand he IS THE BEST that the HWT class has to offer... Plus, he's Russian. :D |
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| bob | Dec 3 2008, 09:58 PM Post #38 |
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Exactly :D |
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| deedsnotwords | Dec 4 2008, 04:37 AM Post #39 |
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Sign with the UFC. Hmm No Offense, but UFC is not the best MMA competition. You'll see plenty of UFC fighters that fight in Pride and other organizations and just get humilated. You can't be impressed by who Fedor's fought... Well that's why he's recognized as one of the best. If you can't be impressed with Fedor how can you even think of being impressed by Randy Couture? No doubt I think he's quite the impressive fighter, but Couture hasn't fought anyone better than some of the guys Fedor has gone against. Fedor has only been defeated by doctor stoppage lol Then he fights them again and beats them just to prove he could. I think Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira should be the fight people are talking about before Brock goes for Fedor. Nogueira is a stud, and besides how beastly Brock Lesnar is I don't know if he could over power Nogueira enough to beat him. Brock would have to knock him out to win that fight, Nogueira will control the ground game. |
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| Eskimo Coyote | Dec 5 2008, 12:13 AM Post #40 |
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what you say is true. ufc may not be the best mma competition, but i do believe that it has the best competition for fedor. and to say couture hasnt fought anyone better than the guys fedor has. lets see. now keep in mind this is all personal opinion...but ill go with nogueira as being the most impressive opponent fedor has ever beaten. coleman was washed up when he faced him and randleman just never really amounted to being an elite mma fighter his entire career. damn good, but not elite. dont gimme herring, brock trounced him. and cro cop? pfff. did you see kongo destroy him? now with that said, im gonna go ahead and say that vitor belfort, tito ortiz, and chuck lidell (couture opponents) are all at or above that level of nogueira. and we all know brock beat couture. and i am also of the belief that brock is going to beat nogueira/mir, it doesnt really matter. now am i saying that brock would beat fedor? who knows? but i do know this, he would NOT get crushed as so many of you think. i just dont see fedor going out and taking the fight to brock and dominating him. no way....it would be a great fight, and ill tell ya this, ill bet that brock would like to get his hands on him. :-) and just to clear things up, im not saying that fedor is bad. just that i am nowhere near ready to crown him as the greatest. thats all. have a nice day :-) |
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| XHockeyDad | Dec 5 2008, 07:13 AM Post #41 |
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All I can say is Sylvia would absolutely walk through Kongo...and we saw what Fedor did to Syliva...Brock, Barnett, Couture, or Nog are the only four fighters that would be a challenge for Fedor. |
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| deedsnotwords | Dec 5 2008, 09:55 AM Post #42 |
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I just think the favorite is definitely Fedor, I'd rather wait a few years and have them fight when Brock is a little more experience, but they could always fight now and later just to see what happens. Randy has lost to both Vitor and Lidell. Tito is not better than Nogueira. I'm sure Brock's next match will be Mir/Nogueira. Mirko is quite the stud in my opinion. He beat Barnett and Barnett is probably one of the top ten fighters of today. |
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| XHockeyDad | Dec 5 2008, 03:07 PM Post #43 |
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I agree, Barnett is incredible...well rounded in every aspect of the sport. |
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| deedsnotwords | Dec 5 2008, 03:17 PM Post #44 |
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He's only lost to Nogueira, Mirko, and Rizzo. He also beat Rizzo and Nogueira later in his career. He's a great fighter. I think Mirko is just a bad match-up for him. I think he's definitely a better fighter all-around. Mirko just gets the better of him. |
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| JohnnyD | Dec 5 2008, 06:32 PM Post #45 |
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The UFC is certainly the best MMA promotion, hands down. The vast majority of the worlds top fighters fight in the UFC, Penn is clearly the best 155 pounder in the world, and boy george is clearly the best 170 pounder in the world, the same goes for Silva (dont give me hollywood Cung Lee)...... and the absolute depth of the 205 pound division makes it the toughest in the world......... so yeah I just think that if Fedor or Lee or Barnett or any of these guys really want to cement a legacy and be called the best, they have to go to the ufc and beat the top guys there...... then I would whole heartedly recognize all of their greatness, I just dont understand why they wouldnt want to do that if they are so sure they can beat these guys.......then they could all say I told you so |
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| CropDuster | Dec 5 2008, 08:29 PM Post #46 |
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Because they want some reembursment (spelling?) instead of their male genitalia ina vice-grip at Dana's mercy... Maybe has the best competition right now, but definitely isn't the best run... EDIT: I dont know if any of you follow Sherdog much, or read the forums... but apparently Cro Cop challenged Allistair Overeem to a fight in his ring in his basement to settle their dispute after AO has been just reaming Mirko in the public... Cro Cop isn't what he used to be... |
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| deedsnotwords | Dec 6 2008, 01:47 AM Post #47 |
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Yeah Cro Cop has been going downhill with age. Whereas someone like Barnett is doing the exact opposite. He is becoming a better and better fighter. |
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| deedsnotwords | Dec 6 2008, 01:53 AM Post #48 |
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I always thought Pride put together better fights personally. Everyone wants to believe UFC is the greatest thing and earth because they are more televised. For example... Anderson Silva is... 8-0 in the UFC... and 3-2 in Pride... interesting... Although however people want to look at it. There are good fighters in every league, and yes there are some of the best fighters in UFC. I think people would be surprised how many people outside of the UFC could be champions. They don't need to fight in the UFC to prove they are the best. Even if Fedor did... who cares lol |
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| CropDuster | Dec 6 2008, 05:28 PM Post #49 |
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Point on the Pride vs. UFC... Anderson Silva pwns everyone in the UFC. Anderson Silva gets flying knee-bar'd by Ryo Chonan. Get my drift? :D (sarcasm...) And Fedor is the best until someone can knock him off his place... |
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| baker | Dec 6 2008, 06:15 PM Post #50 |
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brock all the way he just beat randy couture |
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| LionHeart | Dec 12 2008, 12:02 PM Post #51 |
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Fedor would leg kick, body kick, and piss pound Brocks head till Mazz stoped the fight... com on fellas Brock lost to Mir, beat a crazy horse, then a very aging and small hwt in couture. lets watch him fight acouple more times before we start this convo again. |
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| XHockeyDad | Dec 12 2008, 01:19 PM Post #52 |
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Troll alert...Troll alert!! Definition of a troll: http://www.flayme.com/troll/#What]http://www.flayme.com/troll/#What |
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| CropDuster | Dec 12 2008, 05:55 PM Post #53 |
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The fact that we're gettin trolls is funny being its a relatively small and new forum. God, thank you for the Love Covenant! |
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| Megalitus | Dec 14 2008, 10:17 PM Post #54 |
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As far as the original post Fedor is my pick. Now to all the interesting gab of who has fought who or that kind of stuff. I think if you have been paying attention to MMA you will see that rules may make a difference as well. This game changes pretty fast and how the athlete prepares will also make a difference. If you tried to take the wins and losses of any competitor you could come up with reasoning why one would win over the other. Frank Mir was given a gift by the ref when he fought Brock. Give him credit he won and that is all that matters. I like Mir but I have seen him come in looking so poor and also looking pretty damn good. Randy has been so impressive on his journey, but he has lost to Barnet does that mean he would have been beat by Crocop (no) He lost to Liddell does that mean he would lose to Jacklson, Griffin etc (no) Fedor has beat everyone that he has faced. If you string it all together does that mean anyone in that chain he has beaten. (no) I would still bet on him though. |
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| wrastling | Dec 15 2008, 01:44 PM Post #55 |
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While I do agree Fedor is on a differant level. Choi took Fedor down at will and beat him up pretty good. Now with Brock a much stronger and big body fighter he culd potentially get away with takedowns and gnp to a dec. That doesnt mean I think it will happen, my point is Brock isnt exactly Fedors best match up out there. AA is an easier fight for Fedor IMO. AA has no chin and Fedor throws sledge hammers. There is no way it is co promoted, best hope is Affliction goes under and Fedor sees big dollars to come to the UFC and it really is the only way Fedor the dough boy with no personality what so ever can improve his image in the states. He has to be the worst persona for a top level fighter in any sport. No physique, No personality, Cant speak english, goofy smile. ect. to be big in the US he needs the UFC. To make alot of cash he doesnt really need the UFC. But for an amazing 2 mil dollar pay day he does. |
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| CropDuster | Dec 15 2008, 08:08 PM Post #56 |
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Or he could start a revolution with Affliction and keep a upcoming org alive which would push the UFC and make them treat fighters with the respect they deserve for a change in the for of reimbursment for putting their bodies and lives on the line. Fedor is a prime example of not selling-out. He pwns nukkaz in the cage. Until he's beaten, there is none better. |
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| XHockeyDad | Dec 15 2008, 10:23 PM Post #57 |
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I watched this fight...all minute and 30 seconds of it...I don't recall Choi taking Fedor down at will....Choi weighed in at 352 pounds and ist a height of 7 foot 2...Fedor probably figured he might have to give up a takedown or two. :D |
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