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Cael Sanderson vs Chuck Liddell
Cael Sanderson 26 (51%)
Chuck Liddell 25 (49%)
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Cael Sanderson vs Chuck Liddell; Who wins?
Topic Started: Jan 12 2009, 10:56 PM (1,519 Views)
timothyleary1
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Who wins?
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are we talking about Sanderson today...just walking in off the street? Or are we talking about Sanderson, if he committed to the sport for a year to learn Jits and elements of striking? I think Chuck would kill him today. :rolleyes: ...but Sanderson training specific to the sport I love might be a different story... :ph43r:
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At what sport?
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if you put the 2 in a cage and it was life or death i would bet on sanderson
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Anyone voting for Sanderson is extremely naive about MMA. It would be a brutal beat down.
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I'm not naive... cael is an amazing athlete.. he's the best wrestler of all time.. Rashad evans was not even a all american d1 wrestler and thats the fight game he came from... and he put chuck to sleep.. I bet cael can learn anything and be better than anything rashad or chuck can... because he is the mike jordan of wrestling with his mind set and his physical skill... easily transformed over to the ufc.. but why would he want to .. I'm sure he already makes alot of money know with the iowa state coaching job and has a family and has it made.
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sanderson would do well if he trained for it, but now he is not used to getting hit.

liddell tko
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Jan 13 2009, 09:43 PM
I'm not naive... cael is an amazing athlete.. he's the best wrestler of all time.. Rashad evans was not even a all american d1 wrestler and thats the fight game he came from... and he put chuck to sleep.. I bet cael can learn anything and be better than anything rashad or chuck can... because he is the mike jordan of wrestling with his mind set and his physical skill... easily transformed over to the ufc.. but why would he want to .. I'm sure he already makes alot of money know with the iowa state coaching job and has a family and has it made.

So would he beat Tiger Woods at golf? Would he beat Phelps swimming? Most likely not. Would he beat Liddel in a wrestling match? Most likely yes, would he win in an MMA fight? Not a chance.
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Jan 13 2009, 10:09 PM
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Jan 13 2009, 09:43 PM
I'm not naive... cael is an amazing athlete.. he's the best wrestler of all time.. Rashad evans was not even a all american d1 wrestler and thats the fight game he came from... and he put chuck to sleep.. I bet cael can learn anything and be better than anything rashad or chuck can... because he is the mike jordan of wrestling with his mind set and his physical skill...  easily transformed over to the ufc.. but why would he want to .. I'm sure he already makes alot of money know with the iowa state coaching job and has a family and has it made.

So would he beat Tiger Woods at golf? Would he beat Phelps swimming? Most likely not. Would he beat Liddel in a wrestling match? Most likely yes, would he win in an MMA fight? Not a chance.

Where do you find the reasoning to compare wrestling to golf and swimming? Not only that, but you suggest that he wouldmost likely lose? :blink: . I'll lay out the facts for you: Phelps and Woods would annihilate Sanderson in their respective sports (yes, even with Tiger playing on one leg) because they are light years away from any similarities to wrestling. Sanderson would destroy Liddel in wrestling, and would stand more of a chance in a fight than you're giving him credit for because wrestling skill translates very well to MMA skill, as evidenced by the amount of former wrestlers in the sport, along with it's inclusion on a wrestling forum. Like others have been saying, I agree that Chuck wins if they fought today, but give Sanderson a year to grasp the sport and there could be trouble.
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Jan 13 2009, 11:47 PM
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I'm not naive... cael is an amazing athlete.. he's the best wrestler of all time.. Rashad evans was not even a all american d1 wrestler and thats the fight game he came from... and he put chuck to sleep.. I bet cael can learn anything and be better than anything rashad or chuck can... because he is the mike jordan of wrestling with his mind set and his physical skill...  easily transformed over to the ufc.. but why would he want to .. I'm sure he already makes alot of money know with the iowa state coaching job and has a family and has it made.

So would he beat Tiger Woods at golf? Would he beat Phelps swimming? Most likely not. Would he beat Liddel in a wrestling match? Most likely yes, would he win in an MMA fight? Not a chance.

Where do you find the reasoning to compare wrestling to golf and swimming? Not only that, but you suggest that he wouldmost likely lose? :blink: . I'll lay out the facts for you: Phelps and Woods would annihilate Sanderson in their respective sports (yes, even with Tiger playing on one leg) because they are light years away from any similarities to wrestling. Sanderson would destroy Liddel in wrestling, and would stand more of a chance in a fight than you're giving him credit for because wrestling skill translates very well to MMA skill, as evidenced by the amount of former wrestlers in the sport, along with it's inclusion on a wrestling forum. Like others have been saying, I agree that Chuck wins if they fought today, but give Sanderson a year to grasp the sport and there could be trouble.

If Sanderson had a year there could be trouble for some, but I think he would need more than a year before someone like Liddell would be worried.
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Chuck. How can you even compare two people that don't even compete in the same sport?
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...exactly <_<
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Because cael Sanderson has got the tools and the mind to be a ufc fighter, and alot of wrestling fans would love to see that fight even thow it will never happen...

Keith Jardine has beat chuck
so has rashad

Fighting is not rocket science when it comes to a strong mind with a physical body and raw talent..Cael has better physical atributes than both these guys and is a greater champion than either of them will ever be.... Cael brought his A game every match of his college life and that is more mental than knocking a man out in one fight.. Cael is known for winning more than any other human being alive "just about"... so the reason people who have watched cael break people down say he could beat chuck if he dedicated every thing he had is because he went 151 - 0 in the toughest sport and he is built well..


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Are you saying that Cael Sanderson, today, coming from his coaching job could climb into the Octagon and beat Chuck Liddell because he was a great wrestler?
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Cael is atleast equal to Jardine, except the half-dead stance and awkward facial hair and stature. :D

No dude, cmon... Cael off the street would get demolished by Liddell. I'm a chuck-hater and i admit that... but, after some years of training, hell, maybe even a clinic... who knows?
Maybe Cael watches MMA and secretly is really good.
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No i'm saying with a few months of boxing classes and some submission holds and he has a good chance!
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I know a few nfl players that could take chuck right now and ones name is ray lewis ...
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I was watching the Ravens play this weekend, and i couldnt help but think he looked chubbier then normal?
Might be because i was just paying too much attention, but alot of then looked chubby.
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The only thing that would benefit Cael is the Chuck does not submit people. And Liddell has the best or did have the best takedown defense in the UFC. Couture had plenty of troubles with him and he is an amazing wrestling. And Wrestling and UFC wrestling are 2 different things. Its like Greco and Folkstyle.

We need to get it clear how much Cael gets to train before this would happen.
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This topic ... dumb!
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same amount that brock got would be fair
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Wrestling is much different than MMA. What makes wrestlers could at the sport is the already know a great deal about competing and one on one combo. That's the great advantage to a wrestler wanting to convert to MMA. The bad thing is it is much different in terms of positioning, striking, and submissions. Cael could maybe get locked up in some positions but it would not be a close match at all. Control in wrestling is vastly different from control in MMA. Cael would do fine with practice although its tough for me to picture cael as the fighter type. No doubt I would love to be surprised and Cael just rock the UFC scene but i just dont see it happening.

Even if Cael could control the whole match, what's he going to do without submissions and striking? go for the decision? lol
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Wrestling is much different than MMA. What makes wrestlers could at the sport is the already know a great deal about competing and one on one combo. That's the great advantage to a wrestler wanting to convert to MMA. The bad thing is it is much different in terms of positioning, striking, and submissions. Cael could maybe get locked up in some positions but it would not be a close match at all. Control in wrestling is vastly different from control in MMA. Cael would do fine with practice although its tough for me to picture cael as the fighter type. No doubt I would love to be surprised and Cael just rock the UFC scene but i just dont see it happening.

Even if Cael could control the whole match, what's he going to do without submissions and striking? go for the decision? lol

ya he would get the decision at least like henderson has come to rely on.
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Cael was a technician on the wrestling mat. Most of the UFC guys who came from wrestling were the physical type of wrestlers. Cael was all about finesse, quickness and technique. I don't think he'd have been a great UFC guy.

Think of John Smith...I don't think he'd have been a great UFC fighter...on the wrestling mat he picked guys apart. Gable would have been good at UFC...he was extremely physical. Just my opinion.
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Jan 13 2009, 05:54 PM
if you put the 2 in a cage and it was life or death i would bet on sanderson

how about putting them in a 20 ft pit to the death. i give this one to sanderson. ;)
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if you put the 2 in a cage and it was life or death i would bet on sanderson

how about putting them in a 20 ft pit to the death. i give this one to sanderson. ;)

I wouldn't for the reasons Willaert mentioned, and Liddell is a badass.
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if you put the 2 in a cage and it was life or death i would bet on sanderson

how about putting them in a 20 ft pit to the death. i give this one to sanderson. ;)

I wouldn't for the reasons Willaert mentioned, and Liddell is a badass.

i would give it to liddle ,only if sanderson has no training. liddle is the best sprawler and yes bob liddle is a badass! yah i wouldnt want to c either put to the death .
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i think sanderson could take liddell down at will...... sanderson is a much better wrestler than couture at this point in their careers.
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Jan 23 2009, 04:58 PM
i think sanderson could take liddell down at will...... sanderson is a much better wrestler than couture at this point in their careers.

This isn't wrestling, its UFC. Caels got to make sure he doesn't take a knockout punch while shooting. Liddell still has power. Plus Greco is better for UFC and Couture is better than Cael at that. And Liddell has always had one of the best takedown defenses in the UFC.
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