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| UFC 94 "ST. PIERRE VS. PENN" FIGHTER SALARIES; not a 1.5 million, but not too bad. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 4 2009, 08:44 AM (963 Views) | |
| XHockeyDad | Feb 4 2009, 08:44 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templa...=8100&zoneid=13 The total payroll is less than what Arlovski got paid to get pummelled by Fedor... MMAWeekly has obtained the fighter salary information from the Nevada State Athletic Commission for UFC 94 "Georges St. Pierre vs. B.J. Penn" featuring the welterweight championship mega-fight, which took place on Saturday, Jan. 31, at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The following figures are based on the fighter salary information that promoters are required by law to submit to the state athletic commissions, including the winners' bonuses. Although mixed martial arts fighters do not have collective bargaining or a union, the fighters' salaries are still public record, just as with every other major sport in the United States. Any undisclosed bonuses that a promoter also pays its fighters, but does not disclose to the athletic commissions (specifically, pay-per-view bonuses, fight of the night bonuses, etc.), are not included in the figures below. In the listings below, "Main Event Fighters" are defined as fighters who compete in the main event of a show. "Main Card Fighters" are defined as fighters whose fights appear on the main card, but not in the main event. "Preliminary Card Fighters" are defined as fighters whose matches take place before the main card goes on the air, regardless of whether or not those matches end up airing on the TV or Internet broadcast. MAIN EVENT FIGHTERS – Georges St. Pierre $400,000 (includes $200,000 win bonus) def. B.J. Penn $125,000 (win bonus would have been $125,000) MAIN CARD FIGHTERS – Lyoto Machida $120,000 (includes $60,000 win bonus) def. Thiago Silva $29,000 (win bonus would have been $29,000) – Jon Jones $14,000 (includes $7,000 win bonus) def. Stephan Bonnar $22,000 (win bonus would have been $22,000) – Karo Parisyan $80,000 (includes $40,000 win bonus) def. Dong Hyun Kim $26,000 (win bonus would have been $26,000) – Clay Guida $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus) def. Nate Diaz $20,000 (win bonus would have been $20,000) PRELIMINARY CARD FIGHTERS – Jon Fitch $68,000 (includes $34,000 win bonus) def. Akihiro Gono $28,000 (win bonus would have been $28,000) – Thiago Tavares $26,000 (includes $13,000 win bonus) def. Manny Gamburyan $14,000 (win bonus would have been $14,000) – John Howard $6,000 (includes $3,000 win bonus) def. Chris Wilson $15,000 (win bonus would have been $15,000) - Jake O'Brien $22,000 (includes $11,000 win bonus) def. Christian Wellisch $12,000 (win bonus would have been $12,000) – Dan Cramer $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus) def. Matt Arroyo $8,000 (win bonus would have been $8,000) UFC 94 DISCLOSED FIGHTER PAYROLL: $1,091,000 (Editor's Note: MMAWeekly.com incorrectly omitted the salaries of Jake O'Brien and Christian Wellisch upon the initial publishing of this article.) |
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| CropDuster | Feb 4 2009, 06:13 PM Post #2 |
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Jon Fitch, This is CropDuster, here... Yeah man... Could you give a message to Dana? Ok Thanks... DANA, YOU IDIOT! YOU WILL LOSE GREAT FIGHTERS IF THEY CAN MAKE MUCH MORE FIGHTING FOR AFFLICTION! Oh, and John... Yeah? Nice job, when you jumping ship to Affliction? When Dana loses grip of my throat... :lol: I absolutely hate what they're doing to the fighters in the UFC. It takes only a few true champions to tell Dana and Co. off and leave... |
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| wrastling | Feb 5 2009, 03:47 PM Post #3 |
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It has been reported a number of times, main event fighters and sometimes co main event fighters make a PPV% Als Affliction paid for fighters to wear there shirt and have no additional advertisers on them, thus cutting into what they make on sponsors. Obviously they make it up in the higher pay. I can tell you with certainty GSP made well over what was reported with his PPV% and possible signing bonuses |
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| wrastling | Feb 5 2009, 03:49 PM Post #4 |
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Keep in mind, Affliction has lost money on each show. So one could easily come to the conclusion they are over paying there fighters. Which is obvious they are. |
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| CropDuster | Feb 5 2009, 08:51 PM Post #5 |
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Can we find a happy median? This is a business of compromise, no? |
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| Tbowling | Feb 5 2009, 09:36 PM Post #6 |
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wrastling u r dumb ufc made 100 million off this event ..........the fighters total purse 1 million ............. they are meat they deserve a fuuuuuuuuck load more that is disrespectful |
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| XHockeyDad | Feb 6 2009, 07:28 AM Post #7 |
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Source?? |
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| wrastling | Feb 6 2009, 09:46 AM Post #8 |
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I just want you to answer one question for a change. Just once. Do you believe yourself that GSP did not make a PPV%? Yes or no. As far as a source. Dana himself has stated such a number of times. MMAweekly, Sherdog, Fiveouncesofpain and Meltzer have reported that main event fighters and the top UFC guys make a PPV%. Look at Anderson Silva he doesnt make huge show and win money, but his camp has stated he can retire because he has made his money and has earned this right. They say he is wealthy and doesnt need the money anymore. Well you dont retire on a few hundred thousand. I don't keep a Rolodex of clippings. You really are a key board warrior. Everything that comes out of your mouth is the same ###### that you see on sherdog everyday by the keyboard warriors. As far as the UFC making 100 Million do the math. 1.3 Million in buys @ 54.99 = 71.5 Million(not everyone buys the HD version some buy at 44.99) Plus gate ? 4.5 Million Plus Merchandise Of the 71.5 the UFC gets about 50-60% depending on there deals with the cable companies. That is before Tax. Now subtract employee payroll, this is a major company Set up, stadium costs, production costs, commission costs ect ect The UFC made no were near 100 Million. |
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| wrastling | Feb 6 2009, 10:08 AM Post #9 |
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here is an older example The 2nd examples has a quote from Zuffa were he states if the PPV does well you will get a chunk of it. I think it is common sense in to days MMA market and contract battles GSPs handlers are not signing on for 400K in a fight that is marketed as the biggest ever. Based on the little information given I think it is pretty easy to come to the conclusion the UFC stars make quite a bit more then show and win. I believe they do if you dont that is fine it is your opinion. In the latest edition of Dave Meltzer's Wrestling Observer Newsletter www.wrestlingobserver.com (http://www.wrestlingobserver.com) he has a bit on how the bonus pay works in the UFC. Keep in mind that its only the money draws or "stars" who get the big money. Dana does pay small bonuses for best fight, best ko, best sub and sometimes simply for a fighter really busting his butt in a fight. The draws in the mega matches get $2.50 per ppv buy. This would be matches such as Tito/Shamrock and the upcoming Tito/Chuck 2 match. I would think maybe that Hughes/Gracie might qualify for this--but it might not since it was Gracie that was the draw and not Hughes so Royce might have just been paid big on his own. The ticket sellers on regular shows get $1 per ppv buy. I'd think this would apply to most shows with mains such as Franklin/Silva, Hughes/Penn and the upcoming Hughes/GSP. Its not confirmed if the ppv bonuses are paid on every show or whether their is a ceiling that must be met first. I have a hard time seeing Arlovski or Sylvia being paid ppv bonus money for their 3rd fight but I guess its possible. Bonus money is not reported to the NSAC so you won't see 1 million+ paydays show up on the pay scales. Only the contracted salary amounts are reported. I have not read or heard the bonus breakdown money reported anywhere else but the breakdown makes sense based on the total money some fighters are said to have made recently. The bottom line is that Dana is actually making guys millionaires if they can sell shows and I like that. If a fighter can draw money, he makes money and thats the way it should be. Re: UFC Pay Scale « Reply #20 on Aug 21, 2006, 6:41am » Courtesy of Las Vegas Review Journal IN DEPTH: UFC puts boxing on ropes except in fighters' salaries Emerging sport's popularity rockets past 'sweet science' despite pay inequity By KEVIN IOLE The Ultimate Fighting Championship, the Las Vegas-based mixed martial arts promoter, has in just over five years drawn even with boxing by most objective standards. The UFC routinely sells as many pay-per-views for its fights as boxing does. It nearly always draws larger crowds to its arena shows. Its television ratings dwarf boxing numbers and compete well against other professional sports on cable. But the one area in which the UFC lags behind boxing is in fighter salaries, particularly at the top level of the sport. On March 19, 2005, at the MGM Grand, Erik Morales and Manny Pacquiao engaged in one of the most competitive boxing matches of the year. It was also the year's fifth best-selling pay-per-view, generating 350,000 buys at $44.95 a buy. Almost a month later, the UFC staged a pay-per-view at the MGM featuring a rematch between Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture. Though the UFC refuses to comment on its pay-per-view sales -- "We're a private company and we've made a business decision not to disclose that information," UFC president Dana White said -- co-owner, Lorenzo Fertitta, said several months later that Lidell-Couture did 320,000 buys. The price for that card was $34.95, which was the first at that rate. Previously, all of UFC's pay-per-view cards cost $29.95. But at $34.95, Lidell-Couture generated $11.2 million in pay-per-view revenue. MMAWeekly.com, a Web site that covers the sport aggressively and one which White admits to reading frequently, reported on July 13, 2005, 280,000 pay-per-views were sold. If that figure is correct, the show generated $9.8 million in pay-per-view revenue. In either event, both the Morales-Pacquiao match and the Liddell-Couture match were hugely successful, at the gate and at the pay-per-view box office. In 2006, rematches of both fights were staged. Because of the success of the first bout, promoter Bob Arum paid Morales $2.5 million for the Jan. 21 rematch at the Thomas & Mack Center and paid Pacquiao $2 million. The entire card was paid a total of $4,661,900, according to Nevada Athletic Commission records. Morales and Pacquiao also received a portion of the pay-per-view proceeds, though the amount was not disclosed. Couture-Liddell III was held two weeks later, on Feb. 4 at Mandalay Bay. Liddell's pay rose from $140,000 in the first fight (which was $70,000 to fight and $70,000 to win) to $250,000. Commission records explicitly state that no bonus for winning on Feb. 4 was paid to Liddell. Couture made $225,000 for the rematch, up from $150,000. The entire card was paid $656,000, which includes $59,000 in bonus money for winning. Though White refuses to release the pay-per-view sales for that bout, MMAWeekly.com reported it came in between 400,000 and 410,000 buys worth between $15.98 million and $16.34 million. Even with expenses, including salaries, production costs, arena rental and marketing estimated at $5 million -- a number several boxing promoters say is high -- the UFC would have managed to net more than $10 million. Fertitta said the business model of the UFC is dramatically different from boxing's and that affects the pay structure. "If I'm a boxing promoter, HBO will come in and tell me that they think a fight will sell a certain amount on pay-per-view and they'll come in and guarantee me that and write me a check up front," Fertitta said. "The boxing promoter has no risk. He knows he has this amount of money coming in and he says to the fighters, 'You get x, you get y and I'll take what's left for my profit.' He doesn't have a risk. All the production and marketing of the pay-per-view is handled by HBO. "But in our model, I'm HBO. I'm paying for the production. I'm paying for the marketing. We get no site fee. So what we tell our fighters is that we can't pay them as much up front, but if the fight performs well and produces numbers, they'll get a nice piece of it. Both Randy and Chuck did very well off their (third) fight." White said the company was close to being forced to fold in late 2004, when he said debt from the first four years of ownership had reached eight figures. The debt has been reported to be as much as $40 million and as little as $20 million. Kirk Hendrick, the UFC's chief operating officer, said top fighters like Couture and Liddell can earn up to $4 million a year. "And we throw a lot of sponsorship money into their laps," Hendrick said. "We built this brand and without the UFC name, they wouldn't be getting that kind of money." When Hendrick, a former Nevada deputy attorney general who represented the state athletic commission when Fertitta was a member, was told that boxers frequently get sponsorships in addition to their pay, he grimaced and said nothing. But Fertitta said being affiliated with the UFC makes a fighter more attractive in the marketplace. Once a fighter competes for the UFC, he is often marketed in smaller shows as a "UFC star" and he commands more money from sponsors, Fertitta said. "We spent a lot of time and an awful lot of money building the brand and those three letters -- UFC -- mean a lot," Fertitta said. White said the UFC does things for fighters that it doesn't talk about. Fighter salaries aren't a complaint. And when Tito Ortiz, a light heavyweight who is one of the organization's biggest stars, was holding out in 2005, most of the sentiment among fighters and their managers was in favor of the UFC. "Dana and the Fertittas built this thing and they were losing a lot of money, but they continued to run it as a first-class operation and never tried to cut corners," said Monte Cox, a manager of several UFC fighters, including welterweight champion Matt Hughes, one of the biggest names in the sport. "He was running around demanding $200,000 a fight, even though it was pretty obvious that the finances were in trouble and that no one (in the UFC) was making money. "Matt called him a self-centered piece of (trash) and said, 'We don't need people pissing off the Fertittas.' It's a little different now, because they're starting to bring in a lot more money, but the fighters understand the business side of it a lot better than boxers do. That's why there really hasn't been a problem." And there are no other high-paying options at the moment. The smaller organizations don't have the dollars to come close to competing with the UFC and most of the fighters who compete in those outfits hold full-time jobs. Couture, who retired after losing to Liddell and is going to work for the UFC on regulatory issues under Marc Ratner, said that while some dissatisfaction might arise, he doesn't expect any type of revolt. "I guess there's potential for an issue there," Couture said. "But let's be honest: Their marquee fighters are well taken care of. They make a lot more money than they could possibly make anywhere else. "The top guys, the ones who are selling the pay-per-views, may feel a little slighted when they see a guy like (boxer) Oscar De La Hoya making $10 million a fight when we did numbers as good or better, but it will happen one day.'' Link to Post - Back to Top Logged |
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| Tbowling | Feb 6 2009, 10:47 AM Post #10 |
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O 71 million on ppv alone.... talk about consessions and the merchandise and the tickets average about 500 bux and mgm seats about 16,000 Im not gonna do the math but lets just say ok 71 mill off paper view..... Its like Mayweather says i guess..... the ufc fighters are meat .. they fight for thousands... the skilled smart fighters fight for millions in boxing Imo ufc is gonna pass up boxing period point blank!!!!!!!!! GSP deserved at least 2 million for that fight himself and would say bj should have earned 1 million at the very least.... They sold the dam fight..... not dana.... they did.. they freakin earned it and lets face it the UFC is not a better place and does not make as much money with out the likes of GSP - BJ PENN- Rampage- Machida- and Big Brock...... its fighters like these that posess a freakin threat.... they sell ppvs baby and if that group of fighters i just said went else where the ufc ppvs go down by mega mills alright.......... dont frickin come on here ant tell me a 1 million dollar purse is enough to pay over 13 fighters when the dam event is makin over 71 mill ... the ###### makes me sick ... living aint cheap man/ how much you think training costs huh to pay that many trainers ????????? Traveling????????..............................this ###### is like back in the depression when they maid alot off fighting and paid there fighters garbage.... ya half a mill a fight is great but when ur gsp or bj penn the dudes that sold this event......... iespecially for bjs 125 grand ...... it is freakin peanuts man.. they are star prize fighters they deserve more! |
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| Tbowling | Feb 6 2009, 10:49 AM Post #11 |
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O and by the way Oscar freakin makes way more than 10 mill a fight you better beleive that |
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| Tbowling | Feb 6 2009, 01:04 PM Post #12 |
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o ya did i forget to mention FREAKIN... |
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| deedsnotwords | Feb 6 2009, 01:53 PM Post #13 |
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UFC is much more exciting. UFC is only biring when they turn it into a boxing match haha I think eventually UFC will pass up boxing. |
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