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2 refs-whose in charge?
Topic Started: Jan 8 2012, 10:26 PM (917 Views)
spacecowboy
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Recently at a high school match the ref making the calls and scoring was overturned by the other ref without even talking to the ref that had made the call. The original call was a takedown. The coach of the wrestler that was taken down came to the scoring table complaining and thats when the call was reversed. Someone tried to say that one official is the lead ref and I said that the ref in charge was the one making the calls and the other ref is there to help or to discuss any close calls. My point is that no call should be reversed unless the ref that was awarding points for the match agreed that it should be overturned.
What is the procedure for matches when you have 2 refs?
Edited by spacecowboy, Jan 8 2012, 10:28 PM.
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The assistant ref is on the mat to look for illegal hold and technical violations like locked hands that are often times on the opposite side of the lead ref (and of course most times where everyone else can see it :) . Also the assistant helps with clock and can help with calls that the lead ref asks help for. The lead ref is the one that has the final say in all calls.

As a lead ref you are trained to stay out in front of the kids as most of the action happens towards the head. However we have all seen times where a switch or sitout happens quick and the locked hands is on the opposite side of the head ref. Thus the assistant ref will see the locked hands. And will show the locked hands however the lead official is the one that will stop the match and actually award the points. He is also supposed to be watching for illegal holds/injury/choking etc during a pinning situation, again the lead ref is the only one that can stop the match and actually award the points that the 2nd ref saw.

That is why you will never see the assistant referee on the mat looking for the fall.

Situation, close call on a TD on the edge of the mat. If the leaf official calls a TD but doesn't feel confident in the call he can ask for help. Sometimes the assistant will even say something along the lines "Are you confident in that call" if he says yes then the call stays but a good official will then say "Why what did you see" and the 2 will discuss the call. If the lead referee still thinks it is a TD then it stands no matter what the 2nd thinks.

So remember whenever you see 2 officials talking it doesn't always mean they agree. There are often times a discussion takes place and the 2 don't agree, but the only call that matters is what the lead official calls.

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Edited by WrestlingOfficial, Jan 9 2012, 07:55 AM.
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The situation described by spacecowboy sounds like the referee with the whistle was in a mentoring program and the assistant was the trainer/mentor. Was it a JV match by chance?
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Jan 9 2012, 10:06 AM
The situation described by spacecowboy sounds like the referee with the whistle was in a mentoring program and the assistant was the trainer/mentor. Was it a JV match by chance?

No this was a varsity match. Both Refs were relativley young
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