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| Does MMA training help in folkstyle?; BJJ, Sombo, Judo, etc | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 19 2012, 09:33 PM (1,681 Views) | |
| Ash_Williams | Feb 19 2012, 09:33 PM Post #1 |
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There are a lot of wrestlers who transition to MMA from wrestling, but what about the other direction? Does MMA training (particularly on the grappling arts) directly benefit folkstyle in any way? It's probably a stupid question, because I suppose any type of body combat training is going to benefit more than doing nothing at all. I'm curious if the technique itself has direct benefit in folkstyle? Would it help to get my kids into it? Looking for specific answers like. 1. Makes you better on the feet 2. Makes you a better bottom/top wrestler 3. Has no direct benefit at all. |
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| Mcrow | Feb 20 2012, 04:50 PM Post #2 |
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It's not better than wrestling folkstyle but mat time in ju-jitsu is helpful. I can't see how learning striking or subs would benefit a wrestler much but the basics of control and takedowns could be helpful. There are a lot of differences though because a lot of MMA wrestling is based on the fact that other person can punch you in the face. |
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| Ash_Williams | Feb 20 2012, 05:30 PM Post #3 |
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I'm not talking about the striking arts. I'm referring to the "grappling arts". BBJ, Sombo, and Juda are wrestling only, no direct striking allowed. Obviously folkstyle is better for folkstyle, but what about in the off-season, or maybe a change of pace month of the year (for the wrestlers who go all year round.). |
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| scsu_83 | Feb 21 2012, 08:38 AM Post #4 |
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my $.02 is that BJJ and submission grappling can help, but in the following ways 1) it is a good workout and helps build endurance and cardio. It is also good variety and can keep things a person motivated since variety can be good 2) it would help with working on control and positioning some. Controling your opponenets hips and possitioining are critical to both sports There are things that are different enough where if may work in one discipline but not the other. The first difference that comes to mind is that in BJJ, if/when I get taken down, I work like heck to get to my back and stay on my back until I can better my position. Belly down is a bad place to be in BJJ. Flat on my back is not where the wrestler wants to be. I think the cross training is awesome Edited by scsu_83, Feb 21 2012, 08:40 AM.
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| Mcrow | Feb 23 2012, 01:49 PM Post #5 |
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The title of the thread is "Does MMA training help in folkstyle". My point being that MMA trains in striking and that portion of the training will be completely useless. I mentioned that the wrestling is difference between folk and MMA is that you whether you get punched in the face or not. That's a big difference, there just things you can do very well in wrestling but might get KO'd or subbed doing in MMA. Now if you plan to train just the grappling arts (at totally different thing than MMA) then that's another story. As I mentioned in the first post you learn to control opponents on the ground, which can be helpful. It can help shooting technique and you may learn some new throws, particularly if you train Judo. I think going to a gym that teaches many different grappling arts is probably the best. Judo and BJJ or even better a JJJ style gym. |
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| Wins&Pins | Feb 28 2012, 10:43 AM Post #6 |
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More mat time is always beneficial. I think the more versatile you are the better. If you want to improve on specific things well then work on specific things, but if you are looking for versatility. Mixed martial arts in any form will be majorly beneficial to your folkstyle wrestling even boxing. |
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| Superduck157 | Feb 29 2012, 12:32 AM Post #7 |
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I wrestled in high school and 2 years in college and have been fighting and training for a couple years and what i noticed is that wrestling and grappling (Brazillian jiu jitzu) is much different. in wrestling you have that pure intensity the whole time while in bjj you control yourself alot more and it is alot more slow pace because if u make a mistake you will get submitted. I personally think it would be alot better to go from wrestling before bjj just because it will be alot harder to pick up the intensity coming from bjj |
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| Wins&Pins | Feb 29 2012, 09:12 AM Post #8 |
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That being said, BJJ brings a whole new play style to your wrestling game. BJJ is much more methodical whereas wrestling is much more instant action. There is so much more you can infuse into your ground game from BJJ to wrestling. I would highly reccomend it. |
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| Superduck157 | Feb 29 2012, 03:01 PM Post #9 |
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I would disagree with that |
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| Superduck157 | Feb 29 2012, 03:02 PM Post #10 |
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I would disagree with that |
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| Wins&Pins | Mar 3 2012, 08:50 AM Post #11 |
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You would disagree with BJJ is more methodical? Because I don't think you could disagree that another martial art can help out your wrestling game. I say BJJ is more methodical because it is usually a much slower pace competition. The pace of a wrestling match is a lot faster because of its shorter time periods. I meant methodical in the sense of BJJ is more slow and careful. |
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