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| Injured; is it legal to "go after" an inury blatently? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 5 2013, 10:25 AM (1,775 Views) | |
| Iron Lotus | Feb 5 2013, 10:25 AM Post #1 |
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Is it legal for wrestler A to blatantly attack an injured part of wrestler B's body? Or is it, If you are on the mat all is fair game? If wrestler A would normally use wrestler B's injured body part in a situation (ie...bad knee and a single lege take down), is that okay? But what if wrestler A appears to be intentionally trying to further wrestler B's injury (ie...chopping at an injury for no apparent wrestling purpose), would it be called dangerous and a point awarded? At this time of the season it seems that just about everyone is bandaged up. But nobody knows what kind of injury is under the tape. Sprain, cut, skin, or maybe...a torn ligament and broken elbow? What's the ruling ref? And would the ruling be different if wrestler A was instructed to do so by his coach? Lastly, should the wrestler explain his/her injury to the ref? Edited by Iron Lotus, Feb 5 2013, 11:27 AM.
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| Iowan@heart | Feb 5 2013, 12:01 PM Post #2 |
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I don't think injuries can or should be taken into account in any situation. A wrestler is either declaring himself fit to wrestle by stepping on the mat or he isn't. If a wrestler is doing anything illegal, then he should be penalized appropriately regardless of the other wrestler's physical condition. As far as blantantly attacking an injury, it's done all the time. I think it can be rather classless by the guy doing it, but likewise, I've seen guys with injuries that have no business being on the wrestling mat. There is no way that a ref could or should keep track of whether or not a guy uses a head-lever a lot or is just doing it because the other guy has a bum shoulder. And no, I would not explain an injury to a referree - frankly he doesn't and shouldn't care. You've reported to the mat ready to wrestle - there are no "well except if he grabs my left knee" exceptions. Edited by Iowan@heart, Feb 7 2013, 06:10 AM.
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| mndak | Feb 5 2013, 02:14 PM Post #3 |
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I 100 percent agree with iowan at heart. This is why it is very important to allow your self enough time to recover from injury and not rush the process. a rushed injury can result in a even more severe injury and As many of us on here know some of these injuries will last and bother you for the rest of your life. Do you want to be having a knee replacement surgery at 60 or would you rather wait an extra week or 2 to recover now. |
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| Iron Lotus | Feb 5 2013, 02:21 PM Post #4 |
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I agreed with your position on if you come to the mat, you are declaring yourself ready to wrestle. That I believe first and foremost. As for the rest, wresting is not only a sport of dominance but also of sportsmanship. It is extremely rare as far as I've seen for a a coach instruct that behavior legal or not. If it is obviously blatant then it is not true sportsmanship. Meaning you would not do it if you did not know of the injury. A wrestler should wrestle his/her match. Yes you are right that it happens all the time. But would it if wrestlers and coaches knew what kind of injury it was? I realize this starts the circle on deciding when to come back. A doctor will clear you to wrestle not knowing of that kind of behavior exsists and the wrestler trusts his doctor and so he/she wrestles. Like I said, I'm not saying that a wrestler who steps onto the mat isn't declaring himself ready, he is. I just want to know the rule Iowan. There are a lot of rules about intentionally causing pain, because it is not a sport of hurting your opponent, it is about controlling your opponent. You can't poke eyes, you cant slam to the mat, punch, kick etc.. Heck you can't even make a slightly negative statement to your opponent, throw your headgear or cry on the mat. Why? sportsmanship. I can't stress enough that the wrestlers should wrestle without worry of an injured anything. But even though it happens, I do wonder if it is legal to intentionally cause pain or injury in that manner when you can't in others.
Edited by Iron Lotus, Feb 5 2013, 02:39 PM.
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| WrestlingOfficial | Feb 6 2013, 06:55 PM Post #5 |
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It's only illegal if you force a joint past it's normal range of motion whether that joint is injured or not. Same can be said about roughness. Again unnecessary roughness is regardless if injured or not. So we will call the rules the way they are supposed to be call but we can't adjust what is past normal range of motion or unnecessary Roughness based of an injury or not. Heck if we adjusted wrestlers might tape a knee to make it appear he has an injury just to get us to reg differently |
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| earetr | Nov 24 2013, 09:43 AM Post #6 |
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When you take the mat (or field or court or whatever venue) you assume the risk of injury. If you enter the contest partially injured, the rules cannot protect you. That is why you seldom see court cases for blatant injuries or career ending injuries succeed. The injured individual assumed the risk when he/she entered the field. |
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