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Headgear Colors
Topic Started: Oct 2 2014, 07:21 PM (3,020 Views)
BeastMode333
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I heard rumors that the ear pieces on headgear has to be the same color, is this a rule or not?
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Not that I have heard yet. We have our official rules meetings coming up at the end of the month
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BeastMode333 - is this part of the "as sold by the manufacturer", as in "no modifications" type of question? I believe, in the past, you technically weren't supposed to take two different pairs (like two colors), take them apart and put them back together so the right & left ear pads were different colors. It was explained, like adding tape or stickers or whatever, that its a "modification" vs how its originally sold.

Is that the heart of the discussion?
Edited by q95, Oct 3 2014, 05:34 PM.
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This headgear stuff is getting out of hand. Take the tape away. No tape anywhere on the headgear for health reasons. Other then that. Put a sticker on it, paint it, swop a side with your buddy, cross the straps, what ever you want as long as the kids are wearing them. Tell me what the problem is with crossing the straps or having one side black and one side red?
Edited by Inside Trip, Oct 6 2014, 07:39 PM.
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What is the reasoning behind not being able to cross head gear straps?
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I have to say, we required kids to tape their shoes/cover the laces to speed up the match and reduce stoppages. But 10/15 years later we have them take the tape off the head gears and not allow them to cross the straps. The result is increased unnecessary stoppages due to loose head gears. Isn't this counterproductive?
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Oct 6 2014, 07:32 PM
This headgear stuff is getting out of hand. Take the tape away. No tape anywhere on the headgear for health reasons. Other then that. Put a sticker on it, paint it, swop a side with your buddy, cross the straps, what ever you want as long as the kids are wearing them. Tell me what the problem is with crossing the straps or having one side black and one side red?
I couldn't agree more.
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Isn't the reasoning behind not taping headgear due to concerns of bacteria that grows in it? The same concern isn't shared with taping your laces. Pretty hard to take your shoes off without removing the tape.

Plain and simple, if you adjust your headgear to properly fit, you don't need to tape it. Headgear should basically not move if worn properly.

The different colors is dumb but so are the rules regarding uniform colors etc.
Edited by Gonzaga1603, Feb 11 2015, 10:34 AM.
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Feb 11 2015, 10:33 AM
Isn't the reasoning behind not taping headgear due to concerns of bacteria that grows in it? The same concern isn't shared with taping your laces. Pretty hard to take your shoes off without removing the tape.

Plain and simple, if you adjust your headgear to properly fit, you don't need to tape it. Headgear should basically not move if worn properly.

The different colors is dumb but so are the rules regarding uniform colors etc.
My opinion is that if the no tape on head gear is that important to the high school league....then when a tournament takes place with out of state teams....those team need to adhere to Minnesota's rules. My point is that we don't make out of state teams take the tape off...,.how important is that rule.
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Feb 11 2015, 11:58 AM
Gonzaga1603
Feb 11 2015, 10:33 AM
Isn't the reasoning behind not taping headgear due to concerns of bacteria that grows in it? The same concern isn't shared with taping your laces. Pretty hard to take your shoes off without removing the tape.

Plain and simple, if you adjust your headgear to properly fit, you don't need to tape it. Headgear should basically not move if worn properly.

The different colors is dumb but so are the rules regarding uniform colors etc.
My opinion is that if the no tape on head gear is that important to the high school league....then when a tournament takes place with out of state teams....those team need to adhere to Minnesota's rules. My point is that we don't make out of state teams take the tape off...,.how important is that rule.
Its a contradictory rule! One little piece of tape in the middle will speed up every event across the country. You must secure your shoes to reduce down time, but cannot secure your headgear?
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Cliff Keen sells a headgear strap holder for less than $5. Get one - problem solved. They don't want bacteria retaining athletic tape being ground into anyone's face or head. There was also a problem with people wrapping up so much tape that it became a battering ram.

Regarding multicolor headgear, I see that most suppliers let you order headgear with multicolored straps and ear-guards so "as manufacturer designed" shouldn't prohibit multicolored straps.
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Feb 12 2015, 03:08 PM
Cliff Keen sells a headgear strap holder for less than $5. Get one - problem solved. They don't want bacteria retaining athletic tape being ground into anyone's face or head. There was also a problem with people wrapping up so much tape that it became a battering ram.

Regarding multicolor headgear, I see that most suppliers let you order headgear with multicolored straps and ear-guards so "as manufacturer designed" shouldn't prohibit multicolored straps.
I've not seen it as much in HS, but there are college guys that look like their "lucky headgear" is well past worn out. With the surface cracks & surface totally worn off, lots of foam/padding/innards are exposed. I'm guessing that's a bacteria colony breeding ground too! I understand the tape can be bad for that, but so can worn out foam padding. Let alone, never being disinfected.
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Special interest groups got way too involved and forgot about common sense.

Nothing beats good old tape for tightening your straps.

Tape is soft, it cannot be a battering ram. and like i said 1 layer or 1 little piece is not going to cause health issues.

Not showering after practice or an event is the cause of skin related issues!
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q95
Feb 12 2015, 05:28 PM
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Feb 12 2015, 03:08 PM
Cliff Keen sells a headgear strap holder for less than $5. Get one - problem solved. They don't want bacteria retaining athletic tape being ground into anyone's face or head. There was also a problem with people wrapping up so much tape that it became a battering ram.

Regarding multicolor headgear, I see that most suppliers let you order headgear with multicolored straps and ear-guards so "as manufacturer designed" shouldn't prohibit multicolored straps.
I've not seen it as much in HS, but there are college guys that look like their "lucky headgear" is well past worn out. With the surface cracks & surface totally worn off, lots of foam/padding/innards are exposed. I'm guessing that's a bacteria colony breeding ground too! I understand the tape can be bad for that, but so can worn out foam padding. Let alone, never being disinfected.
Good point - I would think that the "as manufactured" clause would make any headgear that is cracked illegal. I'm beginning to think that the headgear companies thought up this rule.
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NHSL absolutely had influence from headgear manufacturers. You can go back and look in wrestling supply catalogs from 6-7 years ago, there were no little headgear strap "widgets" for an insane $5 each. Then about 3 years ago they started showing up in the catalogs and "Ta da!" New rules against taping headgear and doing anything that is "not from the manufacturer".
I see tape on the soles of blown out, worn out shoes all the time. Tell me that isn't bringing bacteria on the mat. How about the soles themselves? Walking in the concessions area and bathrooms, then directly onto the mat with no way of disinfecting them?
No way is this anything about tape and bacteria. It's about the NFHS and headgear manufacturers being in the same bed. I'm glad to see WI has ignored that rule. MN and all other states should do the same.
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Feb 13 2015, 12:54 PM
NHSL absolutely had influence from headgear manufacturers. You can go back and look in wrestling supply catalogs from 6-7 years ago, there were no little headgear strap "widgets" for an insane $5 each. Then about 3 years ago they started showing up in the catalogs and "Ta da!" New rules against taping headgear and doing anything that is "not from the manufacturer".
I see tape on the soles of blown out, worn out shoes all the time. Tell me that isn't bringing bacteria on the mat. How about the soles themselves? Walking in the concessions area and bathrooms, then directly onto the mat with no way of disinfecting them?
No way is this anything about tape and bacteria. It's about the NFHS and headgear manufacturers being in the same bed. I'm glad to see WI has ignored that rule. MN and all other states should do the same.

Don't give them ideas, next thing you know wrestlers, coaches, and officials will have to step in dip pans filled with an alcohol solution before stepping on the mat.
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"...wrestlers, coaches, and officials will have to step in dip pans filled with an alcohol solution before stepping on the mat. " Which by the way is a great idea and should be required. (could be a mat disinfectant solution)
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Feb 13 2015, 07:33 PM
"...wrestlers, coaches, and officials will have to step in dip pans filled with an alcohol solution before stepping on the mat. " Which by the way is a great idea and should be required. (could be a mat disinfectant solution)
It is the type of idea that sounds great in a meeting, but fails miserably when applied and is relatively ineffective to do what it was ment to do.
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mndak
Feb 11 2015, 10:39 PM
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Feb 11 2015, 11:58 AM
Gonzaga1603
Feb 11 2015, 10:33 AM
Isn't the reasoning behind not taping headgear due to concerns of bacteria that grows in it? The same concern isn't shared with taping your laces. Pretty hard to take your shoes off without removing the tape.

Plain and simple, if you adjust your headgear to properly fit, you don't need to tape it. Headgear should basically not move if worn properly.

The different colors is dumb but so are the rules regarding uniform colors etc.
My opinion is that if the no tape on head gear is that important to the high school league....then when a tournament takes place with out of state teams....those team need to adhere to Minnesota's rules. My point is that we don't make out of state teams take the tape off...,.how important is that rule.
Its a contradictory rule! One little piece of tape in the middle will speed up every event across the country. You must secure your shoes to reduce down time, but cannot secure your headgear?
Your headgear would be secure without tape of you put it on right.

Laces have loops when tied.
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