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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 18 2014, 11:21 PM (1,438 Views) | |
| Lumberjacks | Dec 18 2014, 11:21 PM Post #1 |
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If a dual ends in a tie and there is no advancement as in a tournament…is it a tie, or is it decided by criteria? There seems to be inconsistency in how this is interpreted. Some teams use criteria to determine a winner and others leave it a tie. What are the actual rules…thank you |
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| WrestlingOfficial | Dec 20 2014, 12:18 AM Post #2 |
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Break tie by criteria |
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| .75 Nelson | Dec 21 2014, 02:47 PM Post #3 |
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Is the state championship the only time there can be a tie? |
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| janderson8781 | Dec 22 2014, 02:02 PM Post #4 |
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I don't believe this is correct WrestlingOfficial. I would ask that you look into this and let us know. We have tied in a conference dual and then in fact tied for the conference title at the end of the year. It was determined a tie. I believe this rule only applies in team advancement tournaments. |
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| J Nalan | Dec 22 2014, 03:55 PM Post #5 |
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I believe that is a misconduct penalty right there. |
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| WrestlingOfficial | Dec 23 2014, 07:25 AM Post #6 |
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Janderson8781 What year was that? It must have been a few years ago. I believe the change for tie-breaking of duals went into effect around 2003. I just cut this directly from the 2014-2015 rule book ART. 2 . . . In dual-meet competition, if teams have identical scores, the following team tiebreaking system shall be used to determine the winner. a. The team whose opposing wrestlers or team personnel has been penalized the greater number of team points for flagrant misconduct or unsportsmanlike conduct shall be declared the winner. b. The team whose opposing head coach has been penalized the greater number of team points for coach misconduct shall be declared the winner. c. The team whose opposing wrestlers were penalized the greater number of match points for unsportsmanlike conduct during a match shall be declared the winner. d. The team having won the greater number of matches (including forfeits) shall be declared the winner. e. The team having accumulated the greater total number of falls, defaults, forfeits and disqualifications shall be declared the winner. f. The team having the greater number of technical falls shall be declared the winner. g. The team having the greater number of major decisions shall be declared the winner. h. The team having the greater number (total match points) of first-point(s) scored shall be declared the winner. i. The team having the greater number of points for near-falls shall be declared the winner. j. The team having the greater number of takedowns shall be declared the winner. k. The team having the greater number of reversals shall be declared the winner. l. The team having the greater number of escapes shall be declared the winner. m. The team whose opponent has been penalized the greater number of points for stalling shall be declared the winner. n. The team whose opponent has been warned more often for stalling shall be declared the winner. o. The team whose opponent has the greater number of penalties for all other infractions (i.e. false starts) shall be declared the winner. p. If none of the above resolves the tie, a flip of a disk will determine the winner. Upon determining the winning team by use of the tiebreaking system, a single team point shall be added to the prevailing team. The method of recording the score in breaking team ties shall be the score followed by the letter of the criterion that broke the tie (e.g. Team A-16; Team B-17, criterion e). |
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| WrestlingOfficial | Dec 23 2014, 07:27 AM Post #7 |
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National Federation Of State High School Associations 2003-04 Major Wrestling Rules Changes In dual-meet competition, should teams have identical scores, a tie-breaking system shall be utilized to declare a winner. Although ties are broken in tournaments for teams to advance, this will be a first for dual meets. The suggested team tie-breaker that previously has been in the NFHS Wrestling Rules Book and voluntarily used for tournament progression, will now be officially brought into the rules book. If a match ends in a tie, no more competition will occur; the steps will be followed in order until a winner is determined. The first criterion in the team tie-breaker plan is “the team whose opposing players have been penalized the least number of team points for flagrant or unsportsmanlike conduct shall be declared the winner.” If all other suggestions fail to produce a winner, the last option is the flip of a wrestling disk. |
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| WrestlingOfficial | Dec 23 2014, 07:28 AM Post #8 |
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I will add though MN still does not break ties in the state tournament. I believe MN is the only state that follows this |
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| Willmarwrestling | Dec 23 2014, 10:43 AM Post #9 |
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I can agree with the ref on this one. Three years ago we had 4 ties in one season. Two of them during the regular season in which we lost on criteria to Alexandria and Sartell. However, we won our section title via tie against Wayzata, then won another dual on criteria at the state tournament against Centennial. All duals are decided by the criteria as stated in the rule book. When discussing advancement they are referring to dual tournaments, not duals, tri's and quads. Which is why the state tournament final ultimately ends in a tie. I just assume making the change so there is a clear cut winner. |
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| janderson8781 | Jan 2 2015, 10:37 AM Post #10 |
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It was in the early 2000s. Good change |
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