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Topic Started: Dec 31 2014, 07:48 PM (944,604 Views)
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Why wasn’t Casperson recruited by any of the upper Midwest D1 schools?
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Feb 14 2018, 02:26 PM
McKee is listed as #2 125 prospect by Flo. They also speculate that he could start right away.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/6112343-wno-the-show-ep-10-125lb-prospect-rankings
I'll be eating crow for the next 4 or 5 years on Patrick, ;) !

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Feb 14 2018, 02:36 PM
Why wasn’t Casperson recruited by any of the upper Midwest D1 schools?
He was, I'm pretty sure the offer from Fresno was just really good.
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Word is that nationally ranked 195 pounder Nick Casperson (Fresno State) is going to be bumping up to heavyweight for the postseason to get a shot at Nash. Should make things interesting at the SD state tournament.
That should be a very short match for Nick.
You think so? I think it's a complete coin flip.
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Word is that nationally ranked 195 pounder Nick Casperson (Fresno State) is going to be bumping up to heavyweight for the postseason to get a shot at Nash. Should make things interesting at the SD state tournament.
That should be a very short match for Nick.
You think so? I think it's a complete coin flip.
I don't follow SD HS wrestling, but that is an awful lot of size to give up to a big, powerful, skilled dude.
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That should be a very short match for Nick.
You think so? I think it's a complete coin flip.
I don't follow SD HS wrestling, but that is an awful lot of size to give up to a big, powerful, skilled dude.
Casperson is very good. However, Hutmacher is as good of a high school heavy I’ve seen (outside of Gable) in a long time. His best chance at winning is getting Hutmacher to take a bad shot, get extended, and spin around for the takedown. My guess is 7-2 for the big man.
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Why wasn’t Casperson recruited by any of the upper Midwest D1 schools?
His brother went to SDSU and that didn’t pan out. I was told it cooled the waters for Nick’s recruitment by SDSU.
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Feb 14 2018, 02:36 PM
Why wasn’t Casperson recruited by any of the upper Midwest D1 schools?
His brother went to SDSU and that didn’t pan out. I was told it cooled the waters for Nick’s recruitment by SDSU.
Yeah, it's a real shame. There are so few top flight South Dakotans, I wish they'd do a better job of keeping them in state. Guys like Dakota Galt, Regan Bye, Seth Lange, and Kris Klapprodt were all top flight guys out of South Dakota who left the state and either couldn't find their way into the line-up or just didn't work out. The only two wrestler from South Dakota that I can even think of who qualified for a national tournament outside of SDSU in the past five years or so have been Storley and Kokesh. Honestly I don't see Casperson being a DI level talent anyway, but it would be good for them to keep a guy like Hutmacher in state.
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Feb 14 2018, 02:36 PM
Why wasn’t Casperson recruited by any of the upper Midwest D1 schools?
His brother went to SDSU and that didn’t pan out. I was told it cooled the waters for Nick’s recruitment by SDSU.
Yeah, it's a real shame. There are so few top flight South Dakotans, I wish they'd do a better job of keeping them in state. Guys like Dakota Galt, Regan Bye, Seth Lange, and Kris Klapprodt were all top flight guys out of South Dakota who left the state and either couldn't find their way into the line-up or just didn't work out. The only two wrestler from South Dakota that I can even think of who qualified for a national tournament outside of SDSU in the past five years or so have been Storley and Kokesh. Honestly I don't see Casperson being a DI level talent anyway, but it would be good for them to keep a guy like Hutmacher in state.
Jensen from Mobridge qualified a few times for the Huskers. SDSU wasn't really missing out on much with either Galt or Bye.
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Feb 14 2018, 02:36 PM
Why wasn’t Casperson recruited by any of the upper Midwest D1 schools?
His brother went to SDSU and that didn’t pan out. I was told it cooled the waters for Nick’s recruitment by SDSU.
Yeah, it's a real shame. There are so few top flight South Dakotans, I wish they'd do a better job of keeping them in state. Guys like Dakota Galt, Regan Bye, Seth Lange, and Kris Klapprodt were all top flight guys out of South Dakota who left the state and either couldn't find their way into the line-up or just didn't work out. The only two wrestler from South Dakota that I can even think of who qualified for a national tournament outside of SDSU in the past five years or so have been Storley and Kokesh. Honestly I don't see Casperson being a DI level talent anyway, but it would be good for them to keep a guy like Hutmacher in state.
Jensen from Mobridge qualified a few times for the Huskers. SDSU wasn't really missing out on much with either Galt or Bye.
I've been told that Galt has been kicked off the ASU team. I was never really convinced he was even D1 talent.
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Yeah, it's a real shame. There are so few top flight South Dakotans, I wish they'd do a better job of keeping them in state. Guys like Dakota Galt, Regan Bye, Seth Lange, and Kris Klapprodt were all top flight guys out of South Dakota who left the state and either couldn't find their way into the line-up or just didn't work out. The only two wrestler from South Dakota that I can even think of who qualified for a national tournament outside of SDSU in the past five years or so have been Storley and Kokesh. Honestly I don't see Casperson being a DI level talent anyway, but it would be good for them to keep a guy like Hutmacher in state.
Jensen from Mobridge qualified a few times for the Huskers. SDSU wasn't really missing out on much with either Galt or Bye.
I've been told that Galt has been kicked off the ASU team. I was never really convinced he was even D1 talent.
Yeah I was never a very big Galt believer either. He never impressed me. He just happened to be in a weak weight range.
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Indiana State Finals are being aired on Direct TV Channel 671-4 right now...Watch Lee go for three.

Iowa State Finals are on Direct TV Channel 665-1 right now also
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Gophers should REALLY REALLY be recruiting 120 pounder Anthony Molton a Junior out of Illinois. Kid just took out two-time defending state champion #4 Joey Melendez and #5 Travis Ford-Melton to claim the Illinois state title.
Him and P. McKee 125/133 one bulks up. As much as I like Gliva I don't think he is the answer for 133
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Indiana State Finals are being aired on Direct TV Channel 671-4 right now...Watch Lee go for three.

Iowa State Finals are on Direct TV Channel 665-1 right now also
Lee won his 3rd title with 4 tech falls. McIntosh ended up 6th at 145.
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Indiana State Finals are being aired on Direct TV Channel 671-4 right now...Watch Lee go for three.

Iowa State Finals are on Direct TV Channel 665-1 right now also
Lee won his 3rd title with 4 tech falls. McIntosh ended up 6th at 145.
McIntosh took 6th in his state tournament??
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Feb 17 2018, 08:27 PM
Gophers should REALLY REALLY be recruiting 120 pounder Anthony Molton a Junior out of Illinois. Kid just took out two-time defending state champion #4 Joey Melendez and #5 Travis Ford-Melton to claim the Illinois state title.
Him and P. McKee 125/133 one bulks up. As much as I like Gliva I don't think he is the answer for 133
We need to set our sights higher than Gliva. He's the kind of guy that minnesota should be recruiting for depth purposes, not as an answer for any weight.
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Brayton Lee's state final match can be seen at about the 2 hour 25 minute mark.
http://ihsaatv.org/
You have to click On Demand and then the wrestling link.


Edited by MNRodent, Feb 18 2018, 08:49 AM.
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Indiana State Finals are being aired on Direct TV Channel 671-4 right now...Watch Lee go for three.

Iowa State Finals are on Direct TV Channel 665-1 right now also
Lee won his 3rd title with 4 tech falls. McIntosh ended up 6th at 145.
McIntosh took 6th in his state tournament??
I was thinking the same thing?
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Gophers should REALLY REALLY be recruiting 120 pounder Anthony Molton a Junior out of Illinois. Kid just took out two-time defending state champion #4 Joey Melendez and #5 Travis Ford-Melton to claim the Illinois state title.
Him and P. McKee 125/133 one bulks up. As much as I like Gliva I don't think he is the answer for 133
We need to set our sights higher than Gliva. He's the kind of guy that minnesota should be recruiting for depth purposes, not as an answer for any weight.
Agree entirely. And that’s nothing against Gliva, you have to be a men exceptional wrestler to get noticed by a D1 program. He’s just not starter quality.
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Indiana State Finals are being aired on Direct TV Channel 671-4 right now...Watch Lee go for three.

Iowa State Finals are on Direct TV Channel 665-1 right now also
Lee won his 3rd title with 4 tech falls. McIntosh ended up 6th at 145.
McIntosh took 6th in his state tournament??
I was thinking the same thing?
Although 6th is surprising, both of his losses were one point matches. The guys he lost to went 7-1 and one was the champ.

2 other notes: Indiana has a 1 class state tournament. The 3rd and 4th place match is made up of guys who lost in the semis.
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Gophers should REALLY REALLY be recruiting 120 pounder Anthony Molton a Junior out of Illinois. Kid just took out two-time defending state champion #4 Joey Melendez and #5 Travis Ford-Melton to claim the Illinois state title.
Him and P. McKee 125/133 one bulks up. As much as I like Gliva I don't think he is the answer for 133
We need to set our sights higher than Gliva. He's the kind of guy that minnesota should be recruiting for depth purposes, not as an answer for any weight.
Agree entirely. And that’s nothing against Gliva, you have to be a men exceptional wrestler to get noticed by a D1 program. He’s just not starter quality.
Brett Pfarr was a 1x champ, who moved up a weight to have a better match-up than against Cooper Moore. Pfarr ends up being a national runner-up. So high school results isn’t always the guarantee we think.
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Feb 17 2018, 08:27 PM
Gophers should REALLY REALLY be recruiting 120 pounder Anthony Molton a Junior out of Illinois. Kid just took out two-time defending state champion #4 Joey Melendez and #5 Travis Ford-Melton to claim the Illinois state title.
Him and P. McKee 125/133 one bulks up. As much as I like Gliva I don't think he is the answer for 133
We need to set our sights higher than Gliva. He's the kind of guy that minnesota should be recruiting for depth purposes, not as an answer for any weight.
Agree entirely. And that’s nothing against Gliva, you have to be a men exceptional wrestler to get noticed by a D1 program. He’s just not starter quality.
Brett Pfarr was a 1x champ, who moved up a weight to have a better match-up than against Cooper Moore. Pfarr ends up being a national runner-up. So high school results isn’t always the guarantee we think.
Thank you for using the exception as your example. For every wrestler with a resume like Pfarr's coming out of high school that is a multiple time AA, there are 500 who aren't division 1 caliber. Yeah it happens, but you sure don't count on it happening.
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Gophers should REALLY REALLY be recruiting 120 pounder Anthony Molton a Junior out of Illinois. Kid just took out two-time defending state champion #4 Joey Melendez and #5 Travis Ford-Melton to claim the Illinois state title.
Him and P. McKee 125/133 one bulks up. As much as I like Gliva I don't think he is the answer for 133
We need to set our sights higher than Gliva. He's the kind of guy that minnesota should be recruiting for depth purposes, not as an answer for any weight.
Agree entirely. And that’s nothing against Gliva, you have to be a men exceptional wrestler to get noticed by a D1 program. He’s just not starter quality.
Brett Pfarr was a 1x champ, who moved up a weight to have a better match-up than against Cooper Moore. Pfarr ends up being a national runner-up. So high school results isn’t always the guarantee we think.
The difference between a kid like Brett Pfarr, Kevin Steinhaus and Jacob Volkmann is they were not as close to a finished product. A kid like Gliva has had access to top level coaching in his high school, I believe his dad was a top wrestler for NDSU as well. The 3 I mentioned came from small town MN programs whom are nowhere near the metro area and a place such as Pinnacle to train anytime they wish.


You do see it regularly where a kid who did not have the access to top training partners and coaching, ends up exploding on the college scene once they get access to these types of things. At Simley you have close to 10 coaches with a lot of experience, these kids don’t have the Brett Pfarr type jumps in college because they had them in high school. Think of How much more kids like Carson Brolsma, Dylan Anderson and Miles Patton improved as non state champions than someone like Short did in college.
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Agree entirely. And that’s nothing against Gliva, you have to be a men exceptional wrestler to get noticed by a D1 program. He’s just not starter quality.
Brett Pfarr was a 1x champ, who moved up a weight to have a better match-up than against Cooper Moore. Pfarr ends up being a national runner-up. So high school results isn’t always the guarantee we think.
The difference between a kid like Brett Pfarr, Kevin Steinhaus and Jacob Volkmann is they were not as close to a finished product. A kid like Gliva has had access to top level coaching in his high school, I believe his dad was a top wrestler for NDSU as well. The 3 I mentioned came from small town MN programs whom are nowhere near the metro area and a place such as Pinnacle to train anytime they wish.


You do see it regularly where a kid who did not have the access to top training partners and coaching, ends up exploding on the college scene once they get access to these types of things. At Simley you have close to 10 coaches with a lot of experience, these kids don’t have the Brett Pfarr type jumps in college because they had them in high school. Think of How much more kids like Carson Brolsma, Dylan Anderson and Miles Patton improved as non state champions than someone like Short did in college.
This is why I have hope for Bailey O’Reilly.
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Does anybody know much about Sam Horn? I didn't recognize his name atop the rankings so I looked into him a little bit. It looks like he started wrestling as a freshman and has been getting better every year. It looks like he's a multiple sport athlete who doesn't do much if any freco. Seems like a guy with a ton of upside if he's able to put in the work. I'm not sure he'd fit well at Minnesota, but he might do well somewhere, I originally started looking into him because SDSU is so desperate for good big guys.
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Does anybody know much about Sam Horn? I didn't recognize his name atop the rankings so I looked into him a little bit. It looks like he started wrestling as a freshman and has been getting better every year. It looks like he's a multiple sport athlete who doesn't do much if any freco. Seems like a guy with a ton of upside if he's able to put in the work. I'm not sure he'd fit well at Minnesota, but he might do well somewhere, I originally started looking into him because SDSU is so desperate for good big guys.
Very good athlete. 2/3 very solid attacks from neutral. Not a lot of mat wrestling in his matches. Is a pretty full size 220 so don't know where he fits in weight class wise but he is one of those kids who you watch watch wrestle and think wow he's good but is still not a finished product.

Put it this way he beat Fibranz who was state champ last year and has been wrestling year round for a while. Horn is just a better athlete. Seems like a good kid to fwiw.
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Brayton Lee's state final match can be seen at about the 2 hour 25 minute mark.
http://ihsaatv.org/
You have to click On Demand and then the wrestling link.


11 takedowns in just over 3 1/2 minutes. Some nice offense.
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I wonder if the new facilities helps our chances at all with Patrick Kennedy?
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Brayton Lee's state final match can be seen at about the 2 hour 25 minute mark.
http://ihsaatv.org/
You have to click On Demand and then the wrestling link.


Thanks MNRodent, that was a pretty cool broadcast!! I wish a media outlet in MN would put on a state finals production like this. Do you have any additional links to other state wrestling tourney finals?
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