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Topic Started: Dec 31 2014, 07:48 PM (944,578 Views)
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May 27 2018, 08:07 AM
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May 27 2018, 06:34 AM
Nice addition to the room for depth but I think Krone and Webster will both beat him out at either 74 or 84
A freestyle match from 2017 WTT at 84 kg (184.8 lbs) for what it's worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVMWrwAS34k

Athletic looking kid, I like the addition.
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Skatzka is a monster get for Minny. I am super pumped as this kid has all the talent in the world and now is free to develop it.
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May 27 2018, 06:34 AM
Nice addition to the room for depth but I think Krone and Webster will both beat him out at either 74 or 84
A freestyle match from 2017 WTT at 84 kg (184.8 lbs) for what it's worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVMWrwAS34k

After watching that I have to think he goes 84 or maybe 97 in 2 years..
No matter how it works out i think 74 and 84 just got a lot better!!
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May 27 2018, 05:17 AM
I like the Gophers showing they have an open door to people who want to switch programs. Wonder if they have looked at JUCO talent to fill in around 133...
Russell transferred in at 125
Lizak at 133

You are looking at two possible all Americans for the gophers. I wouldn't be shocked at 3-4 5th through 8th place all Americans and hopefully gable can have an instant impact at her and finish towards the top.

Realistically the gophers have a shot at finishing somewhere between 5-10 at the NCAA tournament next season. If they can put it together this would be a significant improvement.
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May 24 2018, 08:09 AM
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May 24 2018, 08:05 AM
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May 24 2018, 07:38 AM
I would take all of the money I own and bet the under on your 82 points and then I would go to the bank and take out every penny they would lend me and come back for seconds.
Never bet or invest on margin.
How about 81 pts?
Dude only has $5 to bet and the bank won't give him a loan. Ooops, my bad $3. He bought lottery tickets.
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Any chance Webster can go 74?
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I wonder if Webster redshirts this season and Krone bulks up and Stazka goes 174. Or would that mess with Webster getting a Medical Redshirt for 17/18?
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May 27 2018, 12:42 PM
I wonder if Webster redshirts this season and Krone bulks up and Stazka goes 174. Or would that mess with Webster getting a Medical Redshirt for 17/18?
Why have Skatzka cut to 174 when he is obviously the taller of the 2?
Why not have Webster wrestle 174 and Skatzka at 184 where they are both would be in a weight class that fits their length??
I remember reading somewhere here that Webster weighed 183 and didn't cut when at Augsburg and wrestled 184..
He didn't look overly cut at 184 so maybe 174 isn't much to cut to..
Edited by Walleyes1, May 27 2018, 01:28 PM.
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Webster shared that he gets up to 210ish in offseason
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I think that Skatzka will be the starter at whatever weight he wants.
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The two recent transfers no doubt make the team stronger; by allowing freshmen to redshirt, balance and depth to the lineup, and possibly 2 All-Americans.
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I'm seeing about nine qualifiers and maybe three or four All-Americans, that's a pretty big improvement over last year and over what our expectations were for this year. I'm glad to see the coaching staff wheeling and dealing in the off season and growing with the times. If they can develop them and see them continue their success at Minnesota it would be a pretty big deal.
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May 27 2018, 01:26 PM
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May 27 2018, 12:42 PM
I wonder if Webster redshirts this season and Krone bulks up and Stazka goes 174. Or would that mess with Webster getting a Medical Redshirt for 17/18?
Why have Skatzka cut to 174 when he is obviously the taller of the 2?
Why not have Webster wrestle 174 and Skatzka at 184 where they are both would be in a weight class that fits their length??
I remember reading somewhere here that Webster weighed 183 and didn't cut when at Augsburg and wrestled 184..
He didn't look overly cut at 184 so maybe 174 isn't much to cut to..
Isn't Stazka a 174lber? What makes you think it is that much of a cut that he can't make it again?
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May 27 2018, 12:42 PM
I wonder if Webster redshirts this season and Krone bulks up and Stazka goes 174. Or would that mess with Webster getting a Medical Redshirt for 17/18?
Why have Skatzka cut to 174 when he is obviously the taller of the 2?
Why not have Webster wrestle 174 and Skatzka at 184 where they are both would be in a weight class that fits their length??
I remember reading somewhere here that Webster weighed 183 and didn't cut when at Augsburg and wrestled 184..
He didn't look overly cut at 184 so maybe 174 isn't much to cut to..
Isn't Stazka a 174lber? What makes you think it is that much of a cut that he can't make it again?
Becuase he is 6' tall, is a few inches taller than Webster, wrestles 84 Kilo in the off season...
kinda makes sense for the smaller guy to go to 74 and taller guy go 84..
But we all will know what weights they are wresting in November...
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It will be interesting with the people that will be on the roster who will be 174-197.

Obviously all the incoming freshman (Joles, Steffen) will redshirt.

Most of the individuals (Krone-Sr., Strazk-Jr, Anderson-So, B. Steveson-Jr. and Webster-Jr. although he may have 3 years left and a RS available) seem to be guys that could all wrestle two weights with Bobby being the only 1 weight guy unless he gets into much better shape and cuts again....

Personally, I could see this:

18/19:

174-Stazka-Jr.
184-Krone-Sr. (Webster RS if Krone looks good enough to start and the coaches find out if last year doesn't look like a Med RS candidate)
197-B.Steveson-Jr or Anderson-So.

19/20
174-Allar-So. or Thomas-RFr. (wouldn't be the 1st recruit to go higher after redshirting---Steinhaus style?) Long shot--Stazka-Sr.
184-Stazka-Sr or Webster-RJr.
197-B. Steveson-Sr., Anderson-Jr and Joles-RFr.

I don't know for sure if Stazka can get scholarship money with this transfer, so if he can't it is even more impressive of a job for the coaching staff to get him to come to MN. I give big props to Eggum, Becker & Co. for getting Russell to fill a hole at 125 (no offense to Petry or Polakowski--they are good depth but unsure if they would have qualified for NCAA's) and Stazka for 174/184....with all the move ups down low, I think almost every FR except Gable redshirts. Would love to see M. McKee get two years with his brother and the RS class of 18/19 by doing his redshirt this year and letting someone keep his spot warm but it seems the coaching staff is gunning for a "Trophy finish" this year....which is doable if they get some improvement from many of the guys in the room that are likely to start.

Edited by DWB79, May 28 2018, 08:32 PM.
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Any word on where that Schneider from Caledonia is going to next year?
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On Schneider, last I heard Ivy League was the goal. Wrestling was on the table but not a top priority. That was at the end of the season, not sure if anything has changed.
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May 27 2018, 05:56 PM
I think that Skatzka will be the starter at whatever weight he wants.
Apologies if I missed this in previous posts but was curious if there were any issues with transferring in BIG conference? Was he given full release with no stipulations to sit for a year? I’m guessing he is a little young to be a grad transfer....
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If he went PSEO or took AP courses in high school he could have finished his undergrad in 3 years at Indiana. I would guess he's a grad transfer and did not get a release from the Big Ten Conference. With that being said, I have no insider knowledge and could be completely wrong! LOL
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May 27 2018, 06:34 AM
Nice addition to the room for depth but I think Krone and Webster will both beat him out at either 74 or 84
A freestyle match from 2017 WTT at 84 kg (184.8 lbs) for what it's worth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVMWrwAS34k

Did anyone else notice Bader walking by in the background with his hand over his mouth on that first throw? :D
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Discussed on Flo Radio Live this morning. He hasn’t received his clearance from the Big Ten conference yet, but compliance department is pretty confident he will get the transfer rule waived and be able to compete right away with 2 years left.
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May 29 2018, 07:47 AM
If he went PSEO or took AP courses in high school he could have finished his undergrad in 3 years at Indiana. I would guess he's a grad transfer and did not get a release from the Big Ten Conference. With that being said, I have no insider knowledge and could be completely wrong! LOL
He graduated from high school in 2015....next year will be his 4th year of college...he has redshirted and will be a junior.
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May 24 2018, 08:34 AM
Lizak went 2-2 as a freshman.

*Get After It logic

"So you're bumping a guy the overachieved at 2-2 in the National tourney to a top 5 guy in a stacked weight?"

I guess if you don't AA one year that means you're stuck there, no improving, AA is certainly out of the questions. Man, you're on to something...
Yeah, let's just pretend like there wasn't a redshirt year in between there.
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May 24 2018, 08:28 AM
Dude can't make up his own points, just bashes everyone else's opinion.

How bout you actually put an opinion on here and I'll bet the over.

I'll certainly bet the over on Russell/Thorn point total from last year, but apparently with your logic their AA year didn't count for anything and they just forgot how to wrestle therefore they're done.
If I wanted to make a bunch of money, and I knew that the only people placing bets would be coming off of this forum I would put the over/under around 75 points. However the average college wrestling fan who is not a Gopher fan would eat me for lunch with that number. So here is what I think the number would be if I was truly trying to get even action on both sides of the number.

Russell - 5 points
Lizak - 14 points
McKee - 3.5 points
Thorn - 3 points
Bleise - 3 points
Allar - 1.5 points
Krone - 1.5 points
Webster - 1 point
Steveson - 1 point
Gable 22.5 points

O/U on Gopher team points if I'm looking to get even money on both sides: 56 points
Edited by Get after it, May 29 2018, 11:08 AM.
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Those are literally the floors for every wrestler.

I'll take the Over everyday on that analysis
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Get after it
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Dude can't make up his own points, just bashes everyone else's opinion.

How bout you actually put an opinion on here and I'll bet the over.

I'll certainly bet the over on Russell/Thorn point total from last year, but apparently with your logic their AA year didn't count for anything and they just forgot how to wrestle therefore they're done.
If I wanted to make a bunch of money, and I knew that the only people placing bets would be coming off of this forum I would put the over/under around 75 points. However the average college wrestling fan who is not a Gopher fan would eat me for lunch with that number. So here is what I think the number would be if I was truly trying to get even action on both sides of the number.

Russell - 5 points
Lizak - 14 points
McKee - 3.5 points
Thorn - 3 points
Bleise - 3 points
Allar - 1.5 points
Krone - 1.5 points
Webster - 1 point
Steveson - 1 point
Gable 22.5 points

O/U on Gopher team points if I'm looking to get even money on both sides: 56 points
56 is probably a fair betting line.
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May 29 2018, 11:49 AM
Those are literally the floors for every wrestler.

I'll take the Over everyday on that analysis
I have 4 of the 6 wrestlers who actually competed in the postseason last year scoring more points than they did last postseason! How can those numbers be the floor?

I have Russell with 5. If 5 is his floor then explain the 2.5 he scored this year. I could point this out for basically half of the weight classes. I don't know that you really comprehend what "floor" means in this scenario.
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SDSU hoping to announce a pretty big 125 pound signing here soon!
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SDSU hoping to announce a pretty big 125 pound signing here soon!
Like a transfer, or maybe Cashman?
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Cashman just committed to Iowa
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