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| gopherfan149 | Mar 26 2016, 07:01 PM Post #871 |
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If you aren't a hater this wasn't for you. I covered much of what the haters have been hating on. #GoGophers |
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| grappler6 | Mar 26 2016, 07:04 PM Post #872 |
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A few people have said flat out that McKee would not make 33. FWIW, I think there is a kilo or two allowance at the last chance qualifier. At least I think that is what a couple of the guys said at nationals. |
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| MNRodent | Mar 26 2016, 07:06 PM Post #873 |
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Megaludis wrestled as a true freshman. That's why he was able to redshirt last year. Exactly what I am saying to do with McKee (if he is the best in the room). |
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| JAW2517 | Mar 26 2016, 07:09 PM Post #874 |
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Again, I am really not in either camp on this subject. I fall in the middle. However, people that think the program is down are not haters. They just disagree with you. I am sure they cheered for the guys this year and will again next year. You can support the wrestlers while still disliking the coaching staff. |
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| MNRodent | Mar 26 2016, 07:13 PM Post #875 |
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That's the problem one of them may have to move to 149 at some point, if they both want to be in the lineup. If next year is the only year he can make 133 he should wrestle. If he feels he's a career 133 (I doubt it) than go ahead and redshirt. |
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| Work4ATurn | Mar 26 2016, 07:13 PM Post #876 |
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That's correct. When I suggested he be our guy at 133 next year (on either this thread or another), at least two posters laughed me off--stating how preposterous it was that a guy that wrestled 138 in HS could be expected to be at 133 next year. |
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| Gopher187 | Mar 26 2016, 07:16 PM Post #877 |
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Is there room for him? I mean, there's always room but he probably wants to start eventually. Lizak would only be a junior after Vega's redshirt year. |
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| gopherfan149 | Mar 26 2016, 07:23 PM Post #878 |
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Boy you couldn't tell from their posts that they cheered on any gopher |
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| DWB79 | Mar 26 2016, 07:59 PM Post #879 |
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Next year if Vega would come: 125-Lizak-SO (Vega redshirting) 133-McKee-Fr. 141-Thorn-So. 149-Stroker-Fr (Marko redshirting) 157-Short/Kingsley-Jr/Sr. 165-Kingsley-Sr/Early-Fr. (Jeske Redshirting) 174-Wanzek-Jr. 184-Steveson-Fr. (Webster redshirting) 197-Pfarr-Sr. Hwt-Kroells-Sr. 17/18 (if Vega chose MN) 125-Vega-RFr. (if he's big enough at that point) 133-Lizak-Jr. (assuming it looks like Vega will be big enough and he bulks up). (McKee Redshirts) If he didn't choose MN: 125-Lizak-Jr. 133-McKee-So. 141-Thorn-Jr. 149-Stroker-So./Marko RFr. 157-Short-Sr. 165-Early-So./Jeske-RFr. 174-Wanzek-Sr. 184-Webster-RFr. (unless we could nab Reenan too) 197-Steveson-So. Hwt.-Streifel-So. The following year, you'd probably see one of Early/Jeske bulk up.....IF Marko isn't the next Dolezal then maybe you'd even see Stroker or Marko at 157 to get him into the lineup. McKee as a So. while Thorn is a Sr. would be 133/141 if we didn't get Vega... |
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| DWB79 | Mar 26 2016, 08:04 PM Post #880 |
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I sure hope we can beat out ISU for Vega...he'd be a great "get"... I should also clarify, that I didn't include Berge in either the 17/18 lineup or future lineups as I don't know if he is even considering MN...obviously, I hope he is and he decides to come to MN as he'd probably be a stud at 165 or 174 down the road. Edited by DWB79, Mar 26 2016, 08:06 PM.
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| grappler6 | Mar 26 2016, 08:14 PM Post #881 |
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Wait do the coaches realize Arizona isn't in the Midwest?!? This isn't part of the plan!! |
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| DWB79 | Mar 26 2016, 08:34 PM Post #882 |
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Well, about a week or two after his college choice dropped wrestling, he was showcased two weeks ago an hour from their campus and looked fantastic, so I think that counts as something akin to "if something fell out of the sky and hit you in the face"....... And Reenan's decision to re-open his recruiting after deciding another top notch academic school in the Big Ten that is also in a large urban area was not gonna be his choice would be like the situation above happening and after something that was needed fell out of the sky, looking up again and realizing something else you could use (another good "big" guy who could probably gain admittance at the U at a weight of need) was also falling into their lap... Not hard to recruit when they come to your back door. Might be tougher to win over Reenan...but whatever. |
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| MNRodent | Mar 26 2016, 09:10 PM Post #883 |
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Of the newly available recruits, Reenan would be the most needed pickup, due to our large group of freshmen 125 lbers. Either would be great, though, and Lizak has the length to be a 133 as a Junior. |
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| JAW2517 | Mar 26 2016, 09:16 PM Post #884 |
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Again I do not understand comments like these. The haters as many have said want the Gophers to recruit outside the Midwest. So they would be happy if they got Vega. Since you want to go down this road. When and who was the last stud the Gophers got that was not from the Midwest? I am including Illinois in the Midwest. Please do not say Lizak. He is a great wrestler but was not a stud recruit. This is the point people are trying to make. I think it would be before 2012. That is five recruiting classes. I am trying to have a legitimate conversation. I am positive I will be met with sarcasm or told I am a hater. |
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| TheOriginal CK | Mar 26 2016, 09:43 PM Post #885 |
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McKee is a for real big time recruit. He is going to have a fantastic career for the Gophers IMO! He is also the kind of wrestler who makes those around him better. |
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| MNRodent | Mar 26 2016, 09:46 PM Post #886 |
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The Gophers have brought in recruits fro outside the Midwest, the problem is most haven't worked out. Hence the reason they have stayed close to home. Geiger, Mason, Disney, Ortiz, Bass jump to mind. Going back further you have Cory Cooperman, Tommy Owen, Holiday, Caligari, the 197 from PA, can't think of his name. Ones that have worked out from further away: Eggum, Hahn, Ryan Lewis, the Lawrences. |
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| grappler6 | Mar 26 2016, 09:53 PM Post #887 |
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I was just having a little fun with the new development. It's fun to laugh. Not sure I have ever called someone a hater on here or not. FWIW, Lizak was on a world team and probably a bigger recruit than Vega. |
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| Gopher187 | Mar 26 2016, 10:05 PM Post #888 |
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Yes sir. Mckee's the best 132/138 in the nation!!! |
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| JAW2517 | Mar 26 2016, 10:28 PM Post #889 |
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My apologies. I never meant to say that you called anyone a hater. Just a term others have used. I should not have used it when quoting you. |
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| JAW2517 | Mar 26 2016, 10:32 PM Post #890 |
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I can see this side of the argument. I just feel we might be limiting ourselves a bit by not landing one or two recruits from the east or west coast. I am sure we are trying. Just too bad we have not landed many recently. Hopefully this will change in the near future with Vega or Reenan. |
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| grappler6 | Mar 26 2016, 10:38 PM Post #891 |
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No worries I get ur point. My post was meant to be light hearted. |
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| greatfan | Mar 26 2016, 10:40 PM Post #892 |
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Holiday was a 4 yr starter that never redshirted. So even though he never AA'd, I'd have a hard time putting him in the same category as the other guys like Cooperman and Owen. |
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| DWB79 | Mar 26 2016, 11:13 PM Post #893 |
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I don't think Bass was a big recruit was he? He didn't last long and ended up out East this year right? And although Lewis worked out for them, he was at NDSU first--also in the Midwest. |
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| grappler6 | Mar 26 2016, 11:48 PM Post #894 |
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I don't care where somebody is from, as long as they are good people and can wrassle!! |
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| gopherfan149 | Mar 27 2016, 06:21 AM Post #895 |
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Happy Easter to all the Easter bunnies |
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| MNRodent | Mar 27 2016, 06:51 AM Post #896 |
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I would agree with that. I enjoyed watching him wrestle...during the regular season. |
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| MNRodent | Mar 27 2016, 06:57 AM Post #897 |
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Bass was up and down in high school. He did have a win over Bo Nickal. |
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| Lloyd Christmas | Mar 27 2016, 11:45 AM Post #898 |
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My second favorite rodent!! ;) |
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| BoogieChillen | Mar 27 2016, 01:24 PM Post #899 |
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I almost beat Holiday. It was tied after the first 10 seconds of the match and he eventually squeaked by me 18-2. |
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| The Angry Fish | Mar 27 2016, 03:16 PM Post #900 |
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I recently got "choked out" by my 14 year old in a grappling match. He's lucky ( like Holiday was when he wrestled you ), I wasn't 100%. Otherwise I would have torn the kids head off. I'm also old as hell, I've got no business having a 14 year old son. Much less trying to wrestle him. I'm Irish Catholic though, and take the doctrine seriously. |
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