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Iowa has Jason Renteria and Justin Mejia decommitt today. Both stud lightweights. Mejia to MN would be swell. Renteria lists IL, UNC, NE, PSU and Mizzou as his top 5.
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Being suspected they occurred due to trying to clear up more money for Berge and Warner. Both recruits that are considering MN.
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Being suspected they occurred due to trying to clear up more money for Berge and Warner. Both recruits that are considering MN.
There could be some truth to that (freeing up money) but I suspect its more along the lines of they cant commit that much money to 4 guys at two weights. Everyone had to see it coming. Iowa got caught it a tough spot. Two good kids commited, then possibly two better kids commited at similar weights. Someone would have to go for no money or just move on.
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Jul 5 2016, 11:34 PM
Being suspected they occurred due to trying to clear up more money for Berge and Warner. Both recruits that are considering MN.
There could be some truth to that (freeing up money) but I suspect its more along the lines of they cant commit that much money to 4 guys at two weights. Everyone had to see it coming. Iowa got caught it a tough spot. Two good kids commited, then possibly two better kids commited at similar weights. Someone would have to go for no money or just move on.
Agreed, they would rather spend that money elsewhere. Like a 149 and 184/197 pounder.
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Jul 5 2016, 11:21 PM
Iowa has Jason Renteria and Justin Mejia decommitt today. Both stud lightweights. Mejia to MN would be swell. Renteria lists IL, UNC, NE, PSU and Mizzou as his top 5.
Dear U of M administration,

Please come to a swift conclusion, one way or another, so we actually have a chance to react when these kids de-commit.

Other names, with MN on their radar, Berge, Warner, Gable, RYB and Alex Lloyd need assurance, along with their families, of which college will best fit.

There is a slim chance of those blue chip recruits considering the Gophers with question marks of who the head coach will be.

I'd prefer J to stay, but I'd more prefer you to get off your rear and move the clouds hanging over the Gopher program!

-signed Gopher Fans
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Mejia currently talking to two schools IL and MN
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http://www.flowrestling.org/article/43318-justin-mejia-and-jason-renteria-update-and-school-lists
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Iowa has Jason Renteria and Justin Mejia decommitt today. Both stud lightweights. Mejia to MN would be swell. Renteria lists IL, UNC, NE, PSU and Mizzou as his top 5.
Iowa kind of did them dirty. The recruited them before knowing they could get Lee & Teasdale. It's not like D1 caliber starting wrestlers want to sit on the bench for 4 years. Hard to blame Iowa though.
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Iowa has Jason Renteria and Justin Mejia decommitt today. Both stud lightweights. Mejia to MN would be swell. Renteria lists IL, UNC, NE, PSU and Mizzou as his top 5.
Iowa kind of did them dirty. The recruited them before knowing they could get Lee & Teasdale. It's not like D1 caliber starting wrestlers want to sit on the bench for 4 years. Hard to blame Iowa though.
They both committed very early, so I'm not sure how much Iowa recruited them. I'm sure there was some "unofficial recruiting" going on, but scholie amounts aren't supposed to be discussed prior to this week for Seniors to be (as far as I know). One of the side effects of verbally committing so early, is the recruiting team can recruit right over you, if they find someone they like better, while the athlete may have missed out on other opportunities. I don't think committing as a fr/so is a good idea for the athlete unless they are sure where they want to go, irregardless of the money they will get.
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Jul 5 2016, 11:21 PM
Iowa has Jason Renteria and Justin Mejia decommitt today. Both stud lightweights. Mejia to MN would be swell. Renteria lists IL, UNC, NE, PSU and Mizzou as his top 5.
Iowa kind of did them dirty. The recruited them before knowing they could get Lee & Teasdale. It's not like D1 caliber starting wrestlers want to sit on the bench for 4 years. Hard to blame Iowa though.
Iowa didn't "recruit" Mejia and Renteria as much as those kids recruited themselves to Iowa. Mejia I think camped at Iowa and apparently has been a long-time fan and "dreamed" of wrestling there (his words, not mine). I think Renteria has some connection to Tony Ramos (both Chicagoland kids). Both of these young men are pretty accomplished already, known DI type recruits, so they put it out there committing to Iowa, knowing full well they'd still have to negotiate scholarships terms down the road (lets face it, there are potential pitfalls doing so, so early, for any sport - not quite as much for in-state kids who just "love the U and that's where I was always going to go, money be damned").

Iowa and every other College wrestling team on the planet went after Spencer Lee, and Gavin Teasdale entered the fray as well (also a young accomplished kid). That for sure was going to be a factor in what all these kids could get from a scholarship perspective when those last two verbally committed as well.

I do suspect that in Mejia's case money is a significant factor (could be wrong). Ramos not being there could be a factor for Renteria. Lee and Teasdale are certainly X factors as well.

So, in my obvious bias, I don't think Iowa "over-recruited" or "did them dirty". They brought in more recruits who they think will make them better, and who knows where all the weights will exactly line up down the road? Some start, some sit and wait their turn in the lineup, fairly common theme at the better wrestling schools (or any school for that matter). You can't give everybody a full ride. You just can't. At that point, when the scholarship allotment talks begin, choices are made by all recruits and their families. These are the terms, Yea or Nay? You have to play the 9.9 scholarship "game" to make your team as well rounded as it can be, and it's a tough one. To me it's as simple as that.

As of today, Mejia and Renteria have reasons of their own for not accepting their offers at Iowa and looking elsewhere (I believe July 1st was the day those talks can begin for H.S. Seniors?). Until all are enrolled somewhere on a college campus, it's anybody's guess who ends up where and for how much of the scholarship pie they receive, something most of us will never know.

I guess we'll see how it all shakes out. From a Gopher fan perspective, I'm sure you're all ready to get the whole JRob matter resolved, so one way or another you can move on. I personally hope he can stay, I feel he's earned that over a long and well done career.
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Jul 5 2016, 11:21 PM
Iowa has Jason Renteria and Justin Mejia decommitt today. Both stud lightweights. Mejia to MN would be swell. Renteria lists IL, UNC, NE, PSU and Mizzou as his top 5.
Iowa kind of did them dirty. The recruited them before knowing they could get Lee & Teasdale. It's not like D1 caliber starting wrestlers want to sit on the bench for 4 years. Hard to blame Iowa though.
Iowa didn't "recruit" Mejia and Renteria as much as those kids recruited themselves to Iowa. Mejia I think camped at Iowa and apparently has been a long-time fan and "dreamed" of wrestling there (his words, not mine). I think Renteria has some connection to Tony Ramos (both Chicagoland kids). Both of these young men are pretty accomplished already, known DI type recruits, so they put it out there committing to Iowa, knowing full well they'd still have to negotiate scholarships terms down the road (lets face it, there are potential pitfalls doing so, so early, for any sport - not quite as much for in-state kids who just "love the U and that's where I was always going to go, money be damned").

Iowa and every other College wrestling team on the planet went after Spencer Lee, and Gavin Teasdale entered the fray as well (also a young accomplished kid). That for sure was going to be a factor in what all these kids could get from a scholarship perspective when those last two verbally committed as well.

I do suspect that in Mejia's case money is a significant factor (could be wrong). Ramos not being there could be a factor for Renteria. Lee and Teasdale are certainly X factors as well.

So, in my obvious bias, I don't think Iowa "over-recruited" or "did them dirty". They brought in more recruits who they think will make them better, and who knows where all the weights will exactly line up down the road? Some start, some sit and wait their turn in the lineup, fairly common theme at the better wrestling schools (or any school for that matter). You can't give everybody a full ride. You just can't. At that point, when the scholarship allotment talks begin, choices are made by all recruits and their families. These are the terms, Yea or Nay? You have to play the 9.9 scholarship "game" to make your team as well rounded as it can be, and it's a tough one. To me it's as simple as that.

As of today, Mejia and Renteria have reasons of their own for not accepting their offers at Iowa and looking elsewhere (I believe July 1st was the day those talks can begin for H.S. Seniors?). Until all are enrolled somewhere on a college campus, it's anybody's guess who ends up where and for how much of the scholarship pie they receive, something most of us will never know.

I guess we'll see how it all shakes out. From a Gopher fan perspective, I'm sure you're all ready to get the whole JRob matter resolved, so one way or another you can move on. I personally hope he can stay, I feel he's earned that over a long and well done career.
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IMO, Iowa wouldn't offer them anything and they want Berge...with a big if, cause they are waiting to HEAR how and see how he recovers. Berge knows the process and he's going to take his time to pic a team.
Hopefully he knows how Iowa will do double takes on on their recruits..or those those they are interested in (OK, don't really know how much the monkees backpeddle)>.
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IMO, Iowa wouldn't offer them anything and they want Berge...with a big if, cause they are waiting to HEAR how and see how he recovers. Berge knows the process and he's going to take his time to pic a team.
Hopefully he knows how Iowa will do double takes on on their recruits..or those those they are interested in (OK, don't really know how much the monkees backpeddle)>.
[/quote]Difference being Berge isn't committed, and he's now "legally" old enough to have scholarship discussions with potential college suitors as of a few days ago. Big Difference.

Iowa also lost Jordan Blanton to scholarship restructuring a few years back (don't recall who was coming in that they needed money for). As long as kids don't all commit and sign on the same day, you're not always going to know how much money to put where and on whom. I'm sure it works the same at Minnesota and everywhere else that battles 9.9 scholarships for 10 starter spots plus reserves. But you can choose to believe otherwise if you wish. Free country and all.
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IMO, Iowa wouldn't offer them anything and they want Berge...with a big if, cause they are waiting to HEAR how and see how he recovers. Berge knows the process and he's going to take his time to pic a team.
Hopefully he knows how Iowa will do double takes on on their recruits..or those those they are interested in (OK, don't really know how much the monkees backpeddle)>.
Difference being Berge isn't committed, and he's now "legally" old enough to have scholarship discussions with potential college suitors as of a few days ago. Big Difference.

Iowa also lost Jordan Blanton to scholarship restructuring a few years back (don't recall who was coming in that they needed money for). As long as kids don't all commit and sign on the same day, you're not always going to know how much money to put where and on whom. I'm sure it works the same at Minnesota and everywhere else that battles 9.9 scholarships for 10 starter spots plus reserves. But you can choose to believe otherwise if you wish. Free country and all. [/quote]Check your pm (private message) - just sent you a message on how to "quote". Also, added some other info for you. Hope it helps.
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Willie on FRL said Minnesota is in the top two for Warner according to Warner's dad.
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Berge has MN in top three
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Willie on FRL said Minnesota is in the top two for Warner according to Warner's dad.
Who is the other school?

And who is Berge's top 3?
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This guy sure likes (this).

IMO, Iowa wouldn't offer them anything and they want Berge...with a big if, cause they are waiting to HEAR how and see how he recovers. Berge knows the process and he's going to take his time to pic a team.
Hopefully he knows how Iowa will do double takes on on their recruits..or those those they are interested in (OK, don't really know how much the monkees backpeddle)>.
Difference being Berge isn't committed, and he's now "legally" old enough to have scholarship discussions with potential college suitors as of a few days ago. Big Difference.

Iowa also lost Jordan Blanton to scholarship restructuring a few years back (don't recall who was coming in that they needed money for). As long as kids don't all commit and sign on the same day, you're not always going to know how much money to put where and on whom. I'm sure it works the same at Minnesota and everywhere else that battles 9.9 scholarships for 10 starter spots plus reserves. But you can choose to believe otherwise if you wish. Free country and all.
Check your pm (private message) - just sent you a message on how to "quote". Also, added some other info for you. Hope it helps. [/quote]In other words you have no response because it actually sunk in this time. Good job.
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We're due for some good news around here. Any combination of Meija, Berge, Warner, and/or verbals by Steveson and RBY would be very good news. :D
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We're due for some good news around here. Any combination of Meija, Berge, Warner, and/or verbals by Steveson and RBY would be very good news. :D
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Mejia has gotten home visits from Illinois, Fresno State and Oregan State today.
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Fresno State is a nice little walk from his house
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Fresno State is a nice little walk from his house
Some would say a really good reason to travel out of state.
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Mejia with a home visit from West Virginia
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So who is doing visits for the Gopher staff? Eggum?
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Word is that Gable gave a verbal to Ohio State and that big brother is going to Columbus as well. This is info that is very unpopular, so I fully expect many to ignore it and act like I'm making it up.

EDIT: Hey come on guys, it could happen. Twitter knows all. :D
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I would prefer to wait for a more reliable source then yourself.
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Much as I had predicted. Understandable.
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Word is that Gable gave a verbal to Ohio State and that big brother is going to Columbus as well. This is info that is very unpopular, so I fully expect many to ignore it and act like I'm making it up.
Are you Tom Lyden?
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Get after it
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Word is that Gable gave a verbal to Ohio State and that big brother is going to Columbus as well. This is info that is very unpopular, so I fully expect many to ignore it and act like I'm making it up.
Are you Tom Lyden?
Better hope not - as a lot of truths ended up coming out of his story!
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