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Topic Started: Dec 31 2014, 07:48 PM (944,697 Views)
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Oct 23 2016, 08:07 AM
More likely than not we land Gable. Bobby and Fredy and Gable seem to be really close. I just can't see a scenario where Gable goes to Penn St. unless Bobby transfers. I think we land Gable before we land little Berge. Bobby and Gable grew up gopher fans.

If we land Gable, I do believe a few more top studs will follow. We have all the makings of a good team this year, but we are in desperate need of outside state kids. A team of all MN boys won't be in the top 3.
I've been saying that for awhile now...I don't have anything against getting plenty of MN kids, but ideally we'd have 3-5 really good starters that are out of state kids--including guys outside the Midwest.
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Oct 22 2016, 09:02 PM
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Oct 22 2016, 08:55 PM
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I guess there not scared of the showers out there, Crop?!

Hopefully Gable commits there soon so I can quit following wrestling. :'( :'(
Haters gonna hate. Hate, hate. Hate, hate.
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So, half of our starters this year are not from MN.
And they are all very solid.
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Oct 23 2016, 12:03 PM
So, half of our starters this year are not from MN.
And they are all very solid.
Lizak? Stroker?

133-McKee (eventually, maybe Sam B.)
141-Thorn (eventually, Volk till then)
157-Short (LEIII--isn't guaranteed to beat him out)
165-Kingsley
174-Wanzek
184-Steveson
197-Pfarr
Hwt-Kroells

Where do you get half, I get 8/10 are MN HS grads.
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Oct 23 2016, 01:12 PM
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Oct 23 2016, 12:03 PM
So, half of our starters this year are not from MN.
And they are all very solid.
Lizak? Stroker?

133-McKee (eventually, maybe Sam B.)
141-Thorn (eventually, Volk till then)
157-Short (LEIII--isn't guaranteed to beat him out)
165-Kingsley
174-Wanzek
184-Steveson
197-Pfarr
Hwt-Kroells

Where do you get half, I get 8/10 are MN HS grads.
Right and 2 of them are suspended.
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Oct 22 2016, 09:38 PM


*** They are making strides in the right direction and you can't compare them to Penn State at this point in the game, they did not experience what this program has been raked through --- these great coaches & young men are going to rise up and prove all of you wrong!!!
Mark my words.....
The gophers were having trouble landing top recruits before last spring. It has more to do with. Other teams winning the recruiting game and the gophers spinning their wheels.

The game has changed, East coast kids don't have to leave the east coast anymore. They can go to PSU, NC state, and even Rutgers while still getting a top notch Midwest schedule.
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Polakowski could start. Steveson spent a majority of his life out of the state of MN so someone could attempt to include him.

Including them with Lizak, Stroker, Early and that could be how they concluded 5.

Keep in mind our best wrestler was an unheralded walk on out of rural MN. Living proof that attitude, dedication and work ethic can take you a lot of places in our program.
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I agree it (walk ons like BP) can but you need ten of them to make it pan out, and the percentages are low. I believe you need to hit on all ten starters or have 5 mega studs to win it. We are the team that needs to hit on all ten. So recruiting is huge for the gophers as the misses are fewer and farther at PSU lately.
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Oct 23 2016, 02:46 PM
I agree it (walk ons like BP) can but you need ten of them to make it pan out, and the percentages are low. I believe you need to hit on all ten starters or have 5 mega studs to win it. We are the team that needs to hit on all ten. So recruiting is huge for the gophers as the misses are fewer and farther at PSU lately.
Yup I agree. Just acknowledging that recruiting isn't an exact science and being an arm chair recruiter I would imagine is much easier than being an actual recruiter. Sometimes when fans think "what the hell?!" When a recruit commits or commits elsewhere, it can be premature. Lots of factors in play. That is why I am always excited when a guy chooses the maroon and gold.
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Oct 23 2016, 03:01 PM
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Oct 23 2016, 02:46 PM
I agree it (walk ons like BP) can but you need ten of them to make it pan out, and the percentages are low. I believe you need to hit on all ten starters or have 5 mega studs to win it. We are the team that needs to hit on all ten. So recruiting is huge for the gophers as the misses are fewer and farther at PSU lately.
Yup I agree. Just acknowledging that recruiting isn't an exact science and being an arm chair recruiter I would imagine is much easier than being an actual recruiter. Sometimes when fans think "what the hell?!" When a recruit commits or commits elsewhere, it can be premature. Lots of factors in play. That is why I am always excited when a guy chooses the maroon and gold.
Agree, I've never missed as an arm chair recruiter
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Flo has Brady going to Iowa...or it looks like he is just visiting.
Edited by TboneHop, Oct 23 2016, 06:10 PM.
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Warner and Berge visited Iowa this weekend. Along with a handful of other guys. Berge and Warner are supposed to commit on FLo's recruiting show along with Daton Fix. A couple others that were supposed to as well already committed though so who knows
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Just guessing but the Stuhl kid 132lb out of Ellsworth in took 2nd at the JJ to a kid from Cali. and in Stuhl's corner was his coach wearing MN pull over. Maybe a future gopher??
2x WI state champ, 16/17 would be his 3rd
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Oct 23 2016, 06:15 PM
Warner and Berge visited Iowa this weekend. Along with a handful of other guys. Berge and Warner are supposed to commit on FLo's recruiting show along with Daton Fix. A couple others that were supposed to as well already committed though so who knows
If I was a betting man, I wouldn't put any money on any of them ending up in MN.
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Oct 23 2016, 06:15 PM
Warner and Berge visited Iowa this weekend. Along with a handful of other guys. Berge and Warner are supposed to commit on FLo's recruiting show along with Daton Fix. A couple others that were supposed to as well already committed though so who knows
I imagine any wrestlers visiting PSU yesterday had the extra bonus of seeing them knock off OSU in football, that can't hurt their recruiting. On the other hand, Iowa lost in a somewhat close game. And, the Gophers almost blew it against winless (in the conference) Rutgers.
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What exactly is the appeal of the U for an out state recruit? I get a lot of MN boys want to wrestle for the home town team. Many former U guys are obviously super active in the MN coaching scene and that is great and I think helps with recruiting the local guys. But if you are out of state (especially the Midwest) what exactly is the draw? Not a great acedemic school, not a beautiful campus and a 5 month winter. Not a college town, no other sports (football) that are a big deal/ have great game day atmosphere. I just don't see the appeal for an out of state guy. This is coming from someone who went to the U and wants them to succeed badly.
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Would you rather live in Mpls-St. Paul or Happy Valley?
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Oct 23 2016, 07:39 PM
Would you rather live in Mpls-St. Paul or Happy Valley?
Live or go to college at? I love mpls and will live here my entire life. But having lived here my entire life and having been on campus at the U for 4 years it's not really the same thing.
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Oct 23 2016, 06:41 PM
Just guessing but the Stuhl kid 132lb out of Ellsworth in took 2nd at the JJ to a kid from Cali. and in Stuhl's corner was his coach wearing MN pull over. Maybe a future gopher??
2x WI state champ, 16/17 would be his 3rd
Also, I'm pretty sure Ellsworth's head coach is Mark Matzek, former Augsburg coach.
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Oct 23 2016, 07:33 PM
What exactly is the appeal of the U for an out state recruit? I get a lot of MN boys want to wrestle for the home town team. Many former U guys are obviously super active in the MN coaching scene and that is great and I think helps with recruiting the local guys. But if you are out of state (especially the Midwest) what exactly is the draw? Not a great acedemic school, not a beautiful campus and a 5 month winter. Not a college town, no other sports (football) that are a big deal/ have great game day atmosphere. I just don't see the appeal for an out of state guy. This is coming from someone who went to the U and wants them to succeed badly.
MN is a very high quality academic institution.
It is certainly better academically than PSU, OSU, tOSU, etc. The winters in Oklahoma are no better and living there is not so wonderful in comparison to MN.
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What exactly is the appeal of the U for an out state recruit? I get a lot of MN boys want to wrestle for the home town team. Many former U guys are obviously super active in the MN coaching scene and that is great and I think helps with recruiting the local guys. But if you are out of state (especially the Midwest) what exactly is the draw? Not a great acedemic school, not a beautiful campus and a 5 month winter. Not a college town, no other sports (football) that are a big deal/ have great game day atmosphere. I just don't see the appeal for an out of state guy. This is coming from someone who went to the U and wants them to succeed badly.
MN is a very high quality academic institution.
It is certainly better academically than PSU, OSU, tOSU, etc. The winters in Oklahoma are no better and living there is not so wonderful in comparison to MN.
Uofm has some nice programs if you want to persue them for sure, but you can also get away with a pretty easy acedemic route if you want (which I'm sure you can do at a lot of big schools). I'll take your word that Oklahoma winters are as bad. They also have john smith. What do the gophers have that makes an out of state recruit want to come here?


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Next to Northwestern, Minnesota is the most difficult school to get into in the BIG. There have been athletes that can't get into Minnesota that have been accepted at other BIG schools.
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MN is one of the top Big 10 schools academically and is nationally reknowned academically as well.
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Studs don't go to these colleges for academics, they go to wrestle and right now Minnesota doesn't have much to offer them. Maybe if Eggum has a good year as coach, but I still don't know if he can bring in the big names other than maybe Gable but he's been a Minny fan for a long time and his brother is on the squad.
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Next to Northwestern, Minnesota is the most difficult school to get into in the BIG. There have been athletes that can't get into Minnesota that have been accepted at other BIG schools.


Your kidding right ?
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I thought RBY and Gable were supposed to be a package deal? Anyway, guess I am glad Gable didn't verbal to PSU like RBY did this weekend.
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Next to Northwestern, Minnesota is the most difficult school to get into in the BIG. There have been athletes that can't get into Minnesota that have been accepted at other BIG schools.
Not true.
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There is a strong MN connection with Stuhl as his mom comes from a Hastings wrestling family. He also has ties to some other schools like NDSU but he'd be a nice addition for the Gophers. Solid wrestler and smart kid.
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Oct 24 2016, 05:46 AM
Studs don't go to these colleges for academics, they go to wrestle and right now Minnesota doesn't have much to offer them. Maybe if Eggum has a good year as coach, but I still don't know if he can bring in the big names other than maybe Gable but he's been a Minny fan for a long time and his brother is on the squad.
"they go to wrestle"

What is the average salary for a wrestler, who is training, after college? Answer: Rarely do they get any financial help when competing after college. I'm pretty sure the vast majority has plans to get a degree as well as wrestle in college.
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The downfall for a lot of U of M sports and support thereafter is the face that this Twin Cities area has 4 major professional sports to compete with. When you look at Happy Valley, Nebraska, Iowa & tOSU that is all they have. The level of support is there because the lack of other options. I don't buy into the U is more difficult to get into argument because I know that WI, IA, NW, etc ... all have very stringent standards when it comes to academics. Losing the general college years ago did hurt us considerably, but this isn't the SEC or ACC in football that we are competing against here.

We just all have to show up for home matches and force them to move events to Williams Arena. This type of support alone is what will draw in more athletes to come from out of state as well as instate. I remember having the border battle with IA in the Target Center because the match was so big.
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