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| Gopher187 | Feb 24 2015, 11:10 AM Post #151 |
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Iowa is Gross, will he even crack the lineup next year? |
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| grappler6 | Feb 24 2015, 11:57 AM Post #152 |
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141 will prob be between him, Ryan, Carton and then potentially Grothus if he can effectively cut which I doubt. |
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| 1424 | Feb 24 2015, 12:02 PM Post #153 |
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Hope Mark doesn't hold grudges - cause people around here were a bit nasty when he came to Apple Valley. |
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| Work4ATurn | Feb 24 2015, 12:48 PM Post #154 |
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As was stated in the comments attributed to him in the story. |
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| HavingFun | Feb 24 2015, 12:54 PM Post #155 |
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I think Mark has already made his decision. |
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| Gopher187 | Feb 24 2015, 01:02 PM Post #156 |
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And you think that is .....? |
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| gopherfan149 | Feb 24 2015, 01:07 PM Post #157 |
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A secret! |
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| HavingFun | Feb 24 2015, 01:17 PM Post #158 |
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I have no idea...Put Yourself in his shoes. I Think you would know by now. Read the fourth paragraph in Tim's article. |
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| WrestleMe | Feb 24 2015, 01:20 PM Post #159 |
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Mark Hall needs to be a Gopher, or the the fan base will lose a certain amount of confidence in the staff/program. If Mark chooses elsewhere, it will be the biggest miss since Mike Farrell and/or Matt Demaray. He is the Minnesota's surest "sure thing" in a generation. |
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| izzman | Feb 24 2015, 01:36 PM Post #160 |
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I wouldn't be surprised by IA as he is originally from Davison, MI the same school as Metcalf who's dad coaches the team. He just took a recruiting visit to IA as well so I don't think he's made a decision yet. If I were him I would take all the time that I want, knowing I have my choice on wherever I want to go. He's earned the right to take his time. I have high hopes that he's wearing the maroon and gold and he has plenty AV friends there as well as some freestyle friends in Stroker and LEIII. Now if Hall would commit with McKee and bring LEIII's teammate Isiah White with, this team will be next to unstoppable. Imagine this line up: 125 - Lizak/Petry 133 - McKee 141 - Thorn 149 - Parriot 157 - Stroker 165 - LEIII 174 - White 184 - Hall 197 - Steveson HWT - Steveson or whomever until he gets here Good grief that is a loaded roster. Edited by izzman, Feb 24 2015, 01:37 PM.
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| 1424 | Feb 24 2015, 01:43 PM Post #161 |
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I bet he has already made his decision also. Just wish people could keep their mouths shut and not stir up drama and gossip about H.S. kids. It will be a sad day if he goes elsewhere. |
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| gopherfan149 | Feb 24 2015, 01:56 PM Post #162 |
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If you get all these guys you can be the next coach :) |
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| HavingFun | Feb 24 2015, 02:08 PM Post #163 |
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Maybe some of the names on the list might change their minds. |
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| BoogieChillen | Feb 24 2015, 03:25 PM Post #164 |
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Mark? Not to be confused with Marky Mark: Posted Image |
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| 2old | Feb 24 2015, 05:35 PM Post #165 |
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Where does Metcalf's dad coach? I'm quite certain that Roy Hall and Kent Elliott coach at Davison. |
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| DMC | Feb 24 2015, 06:40 PM Post #166 |
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I never thought Hall would go to Iowa, but it could happen. I do believe Brady Berge would go to Iowa before Hall would go. Iowa could get our two six-time state champs. I vaguely remember him giving an interview where he said his top two programs were Minnesota or Okie State. He will have his pick where he wants to go, and I wish him luck. He might as well enjoy the experience!!! Edited by DMC, Feb 24 2015, 06:42 PM.
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| Work4ATurn | Feb 24 2015, 06:59 PM Post #167 |
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Berge can win five, not six. He was runner up as an eighth grader, I believe. |
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| Tribe | Feb 24 2015, 06:59 PM Post #168 |
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According to Isiah White's Twitter page, it says "Eat as much as you can cause I am wrestling at Ohio State." His way old Twitter page though. Edited by Tribe, Feb 24 2015, 07:04 PM.
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| DMC | Feb 24 2015, 07:15 PM Post #169 |
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Yep, you're right; my bad. Lost to Gliva 132 AA as an 8th grader. It still would suck to lose Hall and Berge. |
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| Work4ATurn | Feb 24 2015, 07:30 PM Post #170 |
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I hear you. I'm probably the only one that wasn't aware of his connection with Metcalf. That information and some of his comments in that last piece give me cause to worry about IA. That would suck royally! |
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| Work4ATurn | Feb 24 2015, 07:32 PM Post #171 |
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“I want to be the face of Apple Valley wrestling,” he said. “When people talk about Apple Valley, I want them to think of me.” How about being the face of Gopher wrestling, young man? |
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| mndak | Feb 24 2015, 08:59 PM Post #172 |
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I see what your saying, but he never had true control. He needs to get that arm out and around a hip or second leg. That was not a takedown! |
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| WrestleMe | Feb 24 2015, 09:09 PM Post #173 |
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There's another Lizak. See Flo |
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| grappler6 | Feb 24 2015, 09:23 PM Post #174 |
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I think he has a couple younger brothers. |
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| barney2000 | Feb 24 2015, 10:18 PM Post #175 |
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lizak 125 lizak 133 lizak 141 ??? id prob be ok with that |
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| TheWombat | Feb 24 2015, 10:33 PM Post #176 |
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Lets's take it easy guys, Ethan is by far the best of the three. |
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| KodiakCoach | Feb 25 2015, 02:18 AM Post #177 |
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I see what your saying, but he never had true control. He needs to get that arm out and around a hip or second leg. That was not a takedown![/quote]" Likely we'll never agree on this but: When they returned after the roll up, he had the right leg wrapped up and also had control of his right hand, had stepped over and was straddling the legs, his hips down and low. The referee waited until he saw the step over and hip control - and that the defensive wrestler LOST his lock in the crotch or and was unable to lock around the body. You are suggesting that the wrestler who was on his butt, had only one arm partially around the body, lost his lock in the crotch (and was not allowed to adjust and lock around the body), can't re-lock in the crotch, has no opportunity to elevate his opponent, has the use of only one hand, and has both legs straddled has not lost the takedown? He does not have to get his arm out - his arm was where he wanted it - controlling his opponents hand/arm. His legs - hips can control his opponent just as much as his hands. Obviously the official felt he had control and if you look at the losing wrestler, he knew it. (The only one who didn't believe it was a takedown was the coach). The travesty would have been if they wouldn't have awarded the takedown. Look at the defensive wrestler in slow or stop action the final few seconds before the takedown was awarded - control was established, all possibility of countering the takedown was gone. Edited by KodiakCoach, Feb 25 2015, 02:26 AM.
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| onegoodshot | Feb 25 2015, 08:43 AM Post #178 |
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A crotch lift does not prevent a take down. http://www.cif-la.org/ourpages/auto/2014/7/14/63309800/2014-15%20Wrestling%20Rule%20Book.pdf Look at page 199 picture 5-25-1. (I have no idea how to just post the picture in here). |
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| mndak | Feb 25 2015, 09:40 AM Post #179 |
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It was a premature call, 15/20 years ago i would not disagree as strongly. These kids are both elite wrestlers with great counter moves. He never had full control of his hips, he still had the ability to scoot, readjust, and score a td. The ref should wait for a definitive td! If he gets the second leg or a hip it is 2 points. He never would have made that call in regulation and there was plenty of time for the winning wrestler to establish Control. |
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| Squatting1000LBS | Feb 25 2015, 10:51 AM Post #180 |
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I think Jacob is a great wrestler, he has a motor that just doesn't stop and boy is he quick. he isn't afraid of scramble situations and that gets him in trouble sometimes just due to being impatient at times and trying to make too much happen. Jacob still has a year to develop but I would to have him in the room and see what happens in 2016-2017. I haven't seen anything on Adam yet however if he is the youngest, I am anxious to get some video on him and see what his style is, if it is a mix of Jacob and Ethan WOW is all I could say is bring him in as well for 2019-2020 |
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