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Topic Started: Dec 31 2014, 07:48 PM (944,674 Views)
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Gable = Gopher
I have 80% confident expectation

He's the kind of get (think Mark Hall) that can change a program and help grab others.
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I really like Brandon's communication in his "coaches corner"

He always reviews matches and discusses the next meet, however this week he sprinkled in a little bit about their recruiting efforts.

"Dustin is at the North Dakota State Tournament."
"Luke is at the Indiana State Tournament."
"Brandon is at the Iowa State Tournament."
All coaches will meet in Iowa for the ISU dual.

We rarely hear which coaches or where the Gophers are recruiting. I thought this was a great move from Coach Eggum to inform the fans that recruiting efforts are being made.
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At the ND state tournament, I'd say it's pretty safe to guess DS is looking at Jared Franek, a junior from West Fargo. He was a Cadet Freestyle champ this summer and outside of his already committed teammates (Metz and Shearer), he's probably the only likely D1 guy coming up in ND
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Brayton Lee (IN) and Brody Teske (IA) Alex Thomsen(IA) Cullen Schriever(IA) are some guys I like a lot out of those states.

Nelson Brands (Terry's son) is a hammer as well.
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Feb 17 2017, 07:11 PM
Brayton Lee (IN) and Brody Teske (IA) Alex Thomsen(IA) Cullen Schriever(IA) are some guys I like a lot out of those states.

Nelson Brands (Terry's son) is a hammer as well.
Wouldn't that be something if Terry's kid came to wrestle for the Gophs? ^o) ;)
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Feb 17 2017, 10:39 PM
grappler6
Feb 17 2017, 07:11 PM
Brayton Lee (IN) and Brody Teske (IA) Alex Thomsen(IA) Cullen Schriever(IA) are some guys I like a lot out of those states.

Nelson Brands (Terry's son) is a hammer as well.
Wouldn't that be something if Terry's kid came to wrestle for the Gophs? ^o) ;)
Haha yeah.

Hard to gauge his true ability (in terms if he is true blue chipper or not) IMO. He is so physical and high pace that it overwhelms and breaks his opponent. Obviously good things. Hasn't had many true tests. Lost his only match to O'Conner who is a stud and committed to UNC. Mainly just tossed his name out as a funny. Article said Nelson is considering Nebraska, UNC and Iowa
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Feb 17 2017, 07:11 PM
Brayton Lee (IN) and Brody Teske (IA) Alex Thomsen(IA) Cullen Schriever(IA) are some guys I like a lot out of those states.

Nelson Brands (Terry's son) is a hammer as well.
Thomsen's stock has dropped some due to several losses at premier events, but he's not afraid of competition and I would like to see the Gophers pursue him. Isn't Schreiver still young, like about a sophomore.
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Guessing Brent Jones stock has dropped since he lost to #5 in aaa Swiggum when it mattered most. Kind of reminds me of the Brancale/Short type with production/consistency output potential.
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Feb 18 2017, 10:39 PM
Guessing Brent Jones stock has dropped since he lost to #5 in aaa Swiggum when it mattered most. Kind of reminds me of the Brancale/Short type with production/consistency output potential.
Yeah, that wasn't good. I think Jones should live in the weight room and think of himself as a future 149, instead of 133/141.
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https://iawrestle.com/2017/02/18/nelson-brands-wrestles-a-suicide-pace-for-a-2nd-state-title/

Brands is a chip off the ol block haha
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Feb 18 2017, 10:32 PM
grappler6
Feb 17 2017, 07:11 PM
Brayton Lee (IN) and Brody Teske (IA) Alex Thomsen(IA) Cullen Schriever(IA) are some guys I like a lot out of those states.

Nelson Brands (Terry's son) is a hammer as well.
Thomsen's stock has dropped some due to several losses at premier events, but he's not afraid of competition and I would like to see the Gophers pursue him. Isn't Schreiver still young, like about a sophomore.
Schriever is a Freshman. Has had Fargo success. Gonna be a stud. Just won his first title. Keep ur eye on him.

Thomsen and Jesse both smashed in the finals.
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Feb 18 2017, 10:50 PM
That kid will save a lot of money in life never needing to spend any money on caffeine.
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Feb 18 2017, 10:39 PM
Guessing Brent Jones stock has dropped since he lost to #5 in aaa Swiggum when it mattered most. Kind of reminds me of the Brancale/Short type with production/consistency output potential.
Not a loss you expect but Swiggum is a little underated. 1st year on varisty as a freshman last year and he took 3rd in state only losing to Robb 2-0. Destroyed everyone else he wrestled.
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Feb 18 2017, 11:10 PM
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Feb 18 2017, 10:39 PM
Guessing Brent Jones stock has dropped since he lost to #5 in aaa Swiggum when it mattered most. Kind of reminds me of the Brancale/Short type with production/consistency output potential.
Not a loss you expect but Swiggum is a little underated. 1st year on varisty as a freshman last year and he took 3rd in state only losing to Robb 2-0. Destroyed everyone else he wrestled.
Good wrestler. Jones won't see the lineup for the Gophers. I'm not sold on Cashman either.
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pitbull413
Feb 18 2017, 10:39 PM
Guessing Brent Jones stock has dropped since he lost to #5 in aaa Swiggum when it mattered most. Kind of reminds me of the Brancale/Short type with production/consistency output potential.
Not a loss you expect but Swiggum is a little underated. 1st year on varisty as a freshman last year and he took 3rd in state only losing to Robb 2-0. Destroyed everyone else he wrestled.
Good wrestler. Jones won't see the lineup for the Gophers. I'm not sold on Cashman either.
I wasn't really impressed with ANY of the "D1" guys for Shakopee on Friday.

First off, if you are a 3 time state champ--and this is very indicative of what I've been saying for awhile now---you don't lose in what probably is the biggest dual in your team's/school's history to a good wrestler--not a great wrestler--no offense to Swiggum. You have to come to wrestle, and Jones did not. Kudos to Swiggum for pulling an epic upset, but that was not good.

Secondly, both Lloyd and Crowe needed to get MD's--Crowe's should have been absolutely easy, he was up 6-0 in I think the 2nd period. No way you shouldn't get at least a MD. Watts stalled like crazy in every way, and if the refs (Frost/Reker) had called stalling correctly on AV all night---seemed like they were afraid of doing that, then he would have gotten the MD for sure. But he should have gotten the MD on his own. Lloyd seemed like he was hyped up and was a bit flummoxed by Larson and his height or something at times. Larson is good, but Lloyd was head and shoulders above him in talent, but seemed to struggle with the hgt. at times on his feet.

Cashman--might need to go to a JUCO, redshirt and wrestle 125 before going D1. Gross is pretty good, and is probably coming down from 126, but he shouldn't keep it to a 3-2 decision.

Overall, Jones and Crowe will need some serious weights and work to become legit D1 starters. Lloyd is probably a lifelong 149lber.
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Feb 19 2017, 02:54 AM
I wasn't really impressed with ANY of the "D1" guys for Shakopee on Friday.
I saw the "5 D1 guys" comment in the AV thread - I'd be willing to bet anyone that we'll never see 5 of these guys ever starting for D1 programs. I think Shakopee has a great program but it's almost unheard of to see more than 1 kid from any team actually do the things that need to be done to be successful at the highest collegiate level.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see quite of few of these guys continue wrestling after their high school careers are over - I just think that Augsburg, SCSU, Minnesota State - Mankato and, as someone mentioned, JUCO may be a better fit in some cases.

If you take the 2010-2011 AV teams that are being kicked around as the best dual teams in Minnesota history, I think they peaked at around 6 guys committed to D1 programs but when you look closer, you see that D1 isn't a layup: Dakota Trom (committed to the Gophers, wrestled at RCTC a bit, not sure what happened after that), Matt Kelliher (committed to Wisconsin, was on the roster for a while), Daniel Woiwor (was on ISU roster, not there now, not sure where he is), Destin McCauley (enrolled at Nebraska, is now doing great at DII Nebraska Kearney, Jake Waste (committed to Buffalo, now at DII California Baptist), Steve Keogh (committed to Gophers, ended up at NDSU). The team also had Mark Hall, Seth Gross, and the Kingsleys.

Just saying that success in high school doesn't guarantee success in "D1"..



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I made the 5 d1 guys comment. That is BC shakopee has three guys going d1 next year, and considering cashman is ranked number one in the country I think it's safe to consider he will go d1 and I think it's clear to see manville will be d1 as well. Never said anything about starting or AAing or whatnot.
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Feb 19 2017, 08:26 AM
I made the 5 d1 guys comment. That is BC shakopee has three guys going d1 next year, and considering cashman is ranked number one in the country I think it's safe to consider he will go d1 and I think it's clear to see manville will be d1 as well. Never said anything about starting or AAing or whatnot.
Isn't Lloyd a jr? I don't think he's skipping his sr yr is he?
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DWB continues to let everyone know when a kid isn't good enough for D-1 or when he isn't impressed. Good job, chunk.
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Removing the post I had just made. It linked to an article (that I discovered was fake) about Gable and Allar committing to the U.
Edited by Not a Hawkeye fan, Feb 19 2017, 09:14 AM.
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No. Only means you're posting a fake. Here is the real link to the article that hasn't been altered.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.twincities.com/2017/02/18/apple-valley-upends-no-1-shakopee-for-35th-straight-trip-to-state-wrestling/amp/
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Feb 19 2017, 09:13 AM
No. Only means you're posting a fake. Here is the real link to the article that hasn't been altered.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.twincities.com/2017/02/18/apple-valley-upends-no-1-shakopee-for-35th-straight-trip-to-state-wrestling/amp/
Yes, I was duped! I edited my previous post.
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Feb 19 2017, 08:49 AM
DWB continues to let everyone know when a kid isn't good enough for D-1 or when he isn't impressed. Good job, chunk.
This is a wrestling forum, not a DWB bashing forum. If you disagree with his analysis, fine. Intelligently put forth your position, if you can.
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Feb 19 2017, 08:49 AM
DWB continues to let everyone know when a kid isn't good enough for D-1 or when he isn't impressed. Good job, chunk.
This is a wrestling forum, not a DWB bashing forum. If you disagree with his analysis, fine. Intelligently put forth your position, if you can.
Macho Men bash.
It's what they do.
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I think the Shakopee guys will be just fine. Yeah, they had a disappointing dual and are probably still kicking themselves. But they'll bounce back. They're tough, and I hope they have great D1 careers. I'm sure there are lots of D1 studs that took a disappointing loss in HS. Just like HS success doesn't guarantee D1 success, one bad dual doesn't limit a HS wrestler from D1 success.
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Some very good wrestling BUT also some matches that exhibited less than what one would expect from these two teams. The best wrestler and prospect outside of Gable S. was Carson Manville in my estimation. I agree with some of the postings that DI prospects might be over rated. They reminded me of some of the former state champions on the Gophers who aren't up to DI ability. As one of my college coaches announced "there are two kinds of athletes, suspects and prospects."
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What does it say about mn high school wrestling if there is only 1 d1 guy in a dual between two nationally ranked mn teams?
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Feb 19 2017, 05:00 PM
What does it say about mn high school wrestling if there is only 1 d1 guy in a dual between two nationally ranked mn teams?
I think it says D1 wrestling is the best of the best and is tough as heck to compete well at that level.
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Feb 19 2017, 05:59 PM
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What does it say about mn high school wrestling if there is only 1 d1 guy in a dual between two nationally ranked mn teams?
I think it says D1 wrestling is the best of the best and is tough as heck to compete well at that level.
Mn is a very good state for high school wrestling. Not a top 5 state but easily a top 10 state. You would think mn would have produced more impact college wrestlers than it has the past 20 years.
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