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I'm blatantly stealing these Penn State projected lineups from a thread on the Hawkeye board, but where would Verkleeren fit if he went there? Also, any scoop on how his visit to the U went last weekend?

17/18
125 Suriano
133 ?
141 Cortez (Lee rs)
149 Zain (Berge rs)
157 Nolf

18/19
125 Suriano
133 Teasdale/RBY (one redshirts)
141 winner of Lee/Cortez
149 Berge
157 Nolf

19/20
125 Suriano
133 Teasdale/RBY
141 Teasdale/RBY
149 Lee
157 Berge
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Apr 21 2017, 11:43 AM
I'm blatantly stealing these Penn State projected lineups from a thread on the Hawkeye board, but where would Verkleeren fit if he went there? Also, any scoop on how his visit to the U went last weekend?

17/18
125 Suriano
133 ?
141 Cortez (Lee rs)
149 Zain (Berge rs)
157 Nolf

18/19
125 Suriano
133 Teasdale/RBY (one redshirts)
141 winner of Lee/Cortez
149 Berge
157 Nolf

19/20
125 Suriano
133 Teasdale/RBY
141 Teasdale/RBY
149 Lee
157 Berge
And Manville continues to go unmentioned. Man I wish he would transferred to the Gophers!! Give me him over Berge everytime.
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I think Berge will have a better college career than Manville. I just think 149 is a mistake for him.
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Apr 22 2017, 06:36 AM
I think Berge will have a better college career than Manville. I just think 149 is a mistake for him.
I agree with MN Rodent on Berge. Manville is a question mark! Verkleeren had a great visit at the U of MN. The only reason he hasn't signed with the Gophers was the offer. While very good was not as much as some other offers...ISU, Missouri and NC State. The Gophers are bringing in some great recruits and have to spread the money around. Not an easy job to do. We are doing our part to help persuade him and his parents that He will do well and feel at home here in Minnesota. He is at tOSU this weekend. He had a short visit at PSU this last Monday. PSU is 2 hours from home and tOSU is 3 hours. Big factors related to parents seeing him wrestle as opposed to flying here.
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Apr 22 2017, 06:36 AM
I think Berge will have a better college career than Manville. I just think 149 is a mistake for him.
I agree with MN Rodent on Berge. Manville is a question mark! Verkleeren had a great visit at the U of MN. The only reason he hasn't signed with the Gophers was the offer. While very good was not as much as some other offers...ISU, Missouri and NC State. The Gophers are bringing in some great recruits and have to spread the money around. Not an easy job to do. We are doing our part to help persuade him and his parents that He will do well and feel at home here in Minnesota. He is at tOSU this weekend. He had a short visit at PSU this last Monday. PSU is 2 hours from home and tOSU is 3 hours. Big factors related to parents seeing him wrestle as opposed to flying here.
Shoot... those don't sound like good signs at all!
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Apr 2 2017, 08:48 PM
This is just one man's prediction on when we can take down the dynasty and year by year matchups...

2017-18
125-Lizak vs. Suriano, tossup
133-McKee vs. Cortez, tossup
141-Thorn vs. Moss, Thorn dec.
149-Marko vs. Retherford, Zain bonus
157-Short vs. Nolf, Nolf bonus
165-Wanzek vs. Joseph, Cenzo dec.
174-Pfarr vs. Hall, Hall bonus
184-Anderson vs. Nickal, Nickal bonus
197-Steveson vs. McCutcheon, MM dec.
HWT-Striefel vs. Nevills, Nevills dec.

We need wins at the beginning of the dual to keep it remotely close. We will only be favored in one match and would be very fortunate to walk away with three.
National finish: 5th
All Americans: ceiling-6 floor-2

2018-19
125-Lizak vs. Suriano, tossup again
133-Polokowski vs. Cortez, Cortez dec.
141-Thorn vs. Pipher, Thorn dec.
149-Verk vs. Berge, Berge potential bonus
157-Champange vs. Nolf, Nolf bonus
165-Allar vs. Joseph, Joseph dec.
174-Webster vs. Hall, Hall potential bonus
184-Benick vs. Nickal, Nickal bonus
197-Steveson vs. Stout, Steveson dec.
HWT-Striefel vs. Nevills, Nevills dec.

3 matches is realistic here. If we want to win championships we will redshirt McKee. That allowing him to grow into 141 after Thron graduates allowing P. McKee and hopefully RBY to fill in 125 and 133. Anyway I don't think Polokowski is a huge step down from McKee. I know Gable really wants to compete right away but redshirting him would allow for another year on the team where we have a chance to win a National Championship. My wishful thinking has Verk coming here.
National finish: 5th
All Americans: ceiling-6 floor-2

2018-19
125-P. McKee vs. Suriano, Suriano potential bonus
133-RBY vs. Teasdale, tossup
141-M. McKee vs. Pipher, Mckee potential bonus
149-Verk vs. Berge, Berge dec.
157-Champange vs. Manville, Manville potential bonus
165-Allar vs. Joseph, Joseph dec.
174-Webster vs. Hall, Hall dec or MD
184-Benick vs. Wittlake, Benick dec.
197-Steveson vs. Beard, Steveson dec.
HWT-Gable vs. S. Nevills, Gable potential bonus

If we won 5 matches here that would be a big win. I don't think we match up very well with PSU but I think that this would be the last year they are better than us. I'm giving us the benefit of the doubt here that we get RBY, but I'm also giving PSU Beard and S. Nevills.
National finish: 2nd
All Americans: ceiling-9 floor-4

2019-2020
125-P. McKee vs. Busiello, tossup
133-RBY vs. Teasdale, tossup
141-M. Mckee vs. Pipher, McKee potential bonus
149-Verk vs. N. Lee, Verk dec.
157-Eischens vs. Berge, Berge bonus
165-Champange vs. Manville, Manville Bonus
174-Allar vs. Hidlay, Allar dec.
184-Anderson vs. Wittlake, tossup
197-Kerkvliet vs. Beard, tossup
HWT-Gable vs. Nevills, Gable potential bonus

I think this is the first year we beat PSU. I think we would have a great oppurtunity to win 6 matches here. I am assuming that they will get Hilday as an instate recruit.
National finish:1st
All Americans: ceiling-10 floor-5

There is no way to even remotely forecast anything after this, but I think that 2020 will be our first oppurtunity to take down the giant.
2020 you think Verk beats Lee?
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He should of stayed with Iowa State. I think that ship has sailed. I think he had a real good offer and we need 149-165 pounders with Verk and Allar going elsewhere.
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Apr 22 2017, 07:51 AM
He should of stayed with Iowa State. I think that ship has sailed. I think he had a real good offer and we need 149-165 pounders with Verk and Allar going elsewhere.
Allar is signed with the gophers.
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Apr 22 2017, 06:36 AM
I think Berge will have a better college career than Manville. I just think 149 is a mistake for him.
I agree with MN Rodent on Berge. Manville is a question mark! Verkleeren had a great visit at the U of MN. The only reason he hasn't signed with the Gophers was the offer. While very good was not as much as some other offers...ISU, Missouri and NC State. The Gophers are bringing in some great recruits and have to spread the money around. Not an easy job to do. We are doing our part to help persuade him and his parents that He will do well and feel at home here in Minnesota. He is at tOSU this weekend. He had a short visit at PSU this last Monday. PSU is 2 hours from home and tOSU is 3 hours. Big factors related to parents seeing him wrestle as opposed to flying here.
Weird the gophers are running out of scholly money for Verk but PSU just keeps adding studs.
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Apr 22 2017, 08:23 AM
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Apr 22 2017, 06:50 AM
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Apr 22 2017, 06:36 AM
I think Berge will have a better college career than Manville. I just think 149 is a mistake for him.
I agree with MN Rodent on Berge. Manville is a question mark! Verkleeren had a great visit at the U of MN. The only reason he hasn't signed with the Gophers was the offer. While very good was not as much as some other offers...ISU, Missouri and NC State. The Gophers are bringing in some great recruits and have to spread the money around. Not an easy job to do. We are doing our part to help persuade him and his parents that He will do well and feel at home here in Minnesota. He is at tOSU this weekend. He had a short visit at PSU this last Monday. PSU is 2 hours from home and tOSU is 3 hours. Big factors related to parents seeing him wrestle as opposed to flying here.
Weird the gophers are running out of scholly money for Verk but PSU just keeps adding studs.
I'm pretty sure that people are taking a lot less to go to PSU. I'm more surprised that we have so little money available. We graduated Kroells, Pfarr, Kingsley, Brancale, and Morgan all of whom had to have been on scholarships and the only recruits who may have gotten significant scholarships were Allar and Jones. I'm sure the others are getting something, but we should still have a fair amount left for a blue chipper like Verk.
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Apr 22 2017, 08:07 AM
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He should of stayed with Iowa State. I think that ship has sailed. I think he had a real good offer and we need 149-165 pounders with Verk and Allar going elsewhere.
Allar is signed with the gophers.

I know that. He was signed with Iowa State originally. And Dresser let him out of his NLI. I really think Allar is going to be good.
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Apr 22 2017, 06:50 AM
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Apr 22 2017, 06:36 AM
I think Berge will have a better college career than Manville. I just think 149 is a mistake for him.
I agree with MN Rodent on Berge. Manville is a question mark! Verkleeren had a great visit at the U of MN. The only reason he hasn't signed with the Gophers was the offer. While very good was not as much as some other offers...ISU, Missouri and NC State. The Gophers are bringing in some great recruits and have to spread the money around. Not an easy job to do. We are doing our part to help persuade him and his parents that He will do well and feel at home here in Minnesota. He is at tOSU this weekend. He had a short visit at PSU this last Monday. PSU is 2 hours from home and tOSU is 3 hours. Big factors related to parents seeing him wrestle as opposed to flying here.
Weird the gophers are running out of scholly money for Verk but PSU just keeps adding studs.
I'm pretty sure that people are taking a lot less to go to PSU. I'm more surprised that we have so little money available. We graduated Kroells, Pfarr, Kingsley, Brancale, and Morgan all of whom had to have been on scholarships and the only recruits who may have gotten significant scholarships were Allar and Jones. I'm sure the others are getting something, but we should still have a fair amount left for a blue chipper like Verk.
Not to mention Early and Stroker are off the books.
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Apr 21 2017, 09:05 PM
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Apr 21 2017, 11:43 AM
I'm blatantly stealing these Penn State projected lineups from a thread on the Hawkeye board, but where would Verkleeren fit if he went there? Also, any scoop on how his visit to the U went last weekend?

17/18
125 Suriano
133 ?
141 Cortez (Lee rs)
149 Zain (Berge rs)
157 Nolf

18/19
125 Suriano
133 Teasdale/RBY (one redshirts)
141 winner of Lee/Cortez
149 Berge
157 Nolf

19/20
125 Suriano
133 Teasdale/RBY
141 Teasdale/RBY
149 Lee
157 Berge
And Manville continues to go unmentioned. Man I wish he would transferred to the Gophers!! Give me him over Berge everytime.
He'd be good to have given that his brother just teched #1 Pet Glory.
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Carson Manville lost 2-2 to Nick Raimo on a passivity call with 7 seconds left.
Kerkvliet won his first two matches by tech fall and will face Jake Woodley, PA in the finals at 195.
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Kerkvliet 12-4 over Woodley!
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kerkvleit is a hammer and still has a lot of time to continue to develop
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Dayton Racer to Ohio State

https://iawrestle.com/2017/04/22/dayton-racer-transferring-to-ohio-state/
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They can have him.
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Carson Manville lost 2-2 to Nick Raimo on a passivity call with 7 seconds left.
Kerkvliet won his first two matches by tech fall and will face Jake Woodley, PA in the finals at 195.
What Tourney was this at?
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Carson Manville lost 2-2 to Nick Raimo on a passivity call with 7 seconds left.
Kerkvliet won his first two matches by tech fall and will face Jake Woodley, PA in the finals at 195.
What Tourney was this at?
Journeyman world freestyle classic (NY I think).
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Carson Manville lost 2-2 to Nick Raimo on a passivity call with 7 seconds left.
Kerkvliet won his first two matches by tech fall and will face Jake Woodley, PA in the finals at 195.
What Tourney was this at?
Journeyman world freestyle classic (NY I think).
Carson is a beast on the matt and a great young man off it!
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Carson Manville lost 2-2 to Nick Raimo on a passivity call with 7 seconds left.
Kerkvliet won his first two matches by tech fall and will face Jake Woodley, PA in the finals at 195.
What Tourney was this at?
Journeyman world freestyle classic (NY I think).
Carson is a beast on the matt and a great young man off it!
Are the results posted anywhere?
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Kerkvleit beat #3 (foklstyle) ranked Jake Woodley in the finals 12-4...he's unreal as a sophomore
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Carson is a beast, Daniel is a beast and getting better.

Minnesota will have a national championship quality back end when Daniel and Gable arrive.
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Who is the best duo at 197 and Hvy on the same team ever?

Gophers have a good thing going. Just need a few more killers to fill out the roster with Gable and Kerkvliet.

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Kerkvleit beat #3 (foklstyle) ranked Jake Woodley in the finals 12-4...he's unreal as a sophomore
Kerk should be #2 nationally behind Beard when the new ratings come out without this years seniors.
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Been on the kerkvliet train before he started high school... his hi c single to his left side is unstoppable.
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Who is the best duo at 197 and Hvy on the same team ever?

Gophers have a good thing going. Just need a few more killers to fill out the roster with Gable and Kerkvliet.

Let's hope Verkleeren is GopherTough and maybe even RBY. That would be a great start.
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Who is the best duo at 197 and Hvy on the same team ever?

Gophers have a good thing going. Just need a few more killers to fill out the roster with Gable and Kerkvliet.

Let's hope Verkleeren is GopherTough and maybe even RBY. That would be a great start.
sorry to burst your Bubble but RBY just posted on Twitter the other day that he cant wait to be at PSU.

https://twitter.com/RomanBravoYoung

doesnt look like he is going to go anywhere at least according to his Twitter Feed. :( was really hoping we could land him and Gable yet but doesnt look good.

now keep hope for Verkleeren.
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