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Stalling; Differences
Topic Started: Feb 15 2015, 09:38 AM (1,681 Views)
MatRatWrestler
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Is there a way to define stalling? What does it say in the rulebook? Is it simply the referee's interpretation?

I watched the 6aa finals on Friday and then the 2aa finals Saturday. Wow--what a difference in the way it was called.

In 6aa it was obvious kids were told to keep it close against the other team's better kids. I don't blame the kids as they were probably instructed by their coaches. I don't blame the coaches as they were doing what they needed to do to win.

However, if the 2aa referees would have been at the 6aa finals there would have been many more stalling calls. In 2aa there were a few cases where 3 calls went against a wrestler and once even 4. I saw cases in 6aa where it was a similar match or maybe even worse and wasn't called.

Does it vary by area of the state, refereeing crew, or is one of these cases more in line with the rulebook?

In 2aa there were 4 officials, 2 for each semifinal, and all of them seemed to be on the same page with fairly aggressive calls, so it was not just one guy.

Thank you.
Edited by MatRatWrestler, Feb 15 2015, 11:46 AM.
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SECTION 24 STALLING
ART. 1 . . . Each wrestler is required to make an honest attempt to stay within the 10-foot circle and
wrestle aggressively, regardless of position or the time or score of the match. Action is to be
maintained throughout the match by the contestants wrestling aggressively whether in the top, bottom
or neutral position and both contestants are equally responsible for initiating action. It is the
responsibility of contestants, coaches and referees to avoid the use of stalling tactics or allowing the
use thereof. This shall be demonstrated by those responsible with strict enforcement by referees.
ART. 2 . . . When a referee recognizes stalling occurring at any time and in any position, the offender
shall be warned and thereafter violations shall be penalized when stalling recurs. These provisions
require the referee to penalize stalling without hesitation. Stalling shall be penalized in accordance
with the Penalty Chart.
ART. 3 . . . It is stalling in the neutral position when a wrestler:
a. continuously avoids contact with the opponent;
b. plays the edge of the mat;
c. prevents the opponent from returning to or remaining inbounds; or
d. is not attempting to secure a takedown.
ART. 4 . . . It is stalling when the contestant in the advantage position:
a. does not wrestle aggressively and attempts to secure a fall, except when the wrestler
intentionally releases the opponent in order to thereafter immediately attempt to secure a
takedown;
b. legally holds the heel to the buttocks while the defensive wrestler is broken down on the mat
for more than five seconds; or
c. holding an opponent’s leg with the use of two hands on two legs or two hands on one leg in
action not designed to break the opponent down, or is for the purpose of securing a fall, or is to
prevent an escape or reversal, is stalling. Repeated grasping and holding the leg or legs with
both hands or arms to break an opponent down for the sole purpose of controlling is stalling
ART. 5 . . . When a defensive wrestler refuses to aggressively attempt escapes or reversals, it is
stalling.
ART. 6 . . . It is stalling when either wrestler:
a. repeatedly grasps or interlocks around one leg of the opponent to prevent scoring; or
b. delays the match. This includes straggling back from out of bounds, unnecessarily changing or
adjusting equipment or delay in assuming the starting position on the mat; orc. repeatedly creates a stalemate situation to prevent an opponent from scoring.
ART. 7 . . . The defensive wrestler is not stalling when overpowered.

So it is up to the referee to make his best judgement on the above, and lots of referees have different opinions on what they are seeing.
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Some wrestlers are REAL good at repeatedly creating stalemates. At what point does that turn into stalling?

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Feb 15 2015, 09:43 PM
SECTION 24 STALLING
ART. 1 . . . Each wrestler is required to make an honest attempt to stay within the 10-foot circle and
wrestle aggressively, regardless of position or the time or score of the match. Action is to be
maintained throughout the match by the contestants wrestling aggressively whether in the top, bottom
or neutral position and both contestants are equally responsible for initiating action. It is the
responsibility of contestants, coaches and referees to avoid the use of stalling tactics or allowing the
use thereof. This shall be demonstrated by those responsible with strict enforcement by referees.
ART. 2 . . . When a referee recognizes stalling occurring at any time and in any position, the offender
shall be warned and thereafter violations shall be penalized when stalling recurs. These provisions
require the referee to penalize stalling without hesitation. Stalling shall be penalized in accordance
with the Penalty Chart.
ART. 3 . . . It is stalling in the neutral position when a wrestler:
a. continuously avoids contact with the opponent;
b. plays the edge of the mat;
c. prevents the opponent from returning to or remaining inbounds; or
d. is not attempting to secure a takedown.
ART. 4 . . . It is stalling when the contestant in the advantage position:
a. does not wrestle aggressively and attempts to secure a fall, except when the wrestler
intentionally releases the opponent in order to thereafter immediately attempt to secure a
takedown;
b. legally holds the heel to the buttocks while the defensive wrestler is broken down on the mat
for more than five seconds; or
c. holding an opponent’s leg with the use of two hands on two legs or two hands on one leg in
action not designed to break the opponent down, or is for the purpose of securing a fall, or is to
prevent an escape or reversal, is stalling. Repeated grasping and holding the leg or legs with
both hands or arms to break an opponent down for the sole purpose of controlling is stalling
ART. 5 . . . When a defensive wrestler refuses to aggressively attempt escapes or reversals, it is
stalling.
ART. 6 . . . It is stalling when either wrestler:
a. repeatedly grasps or interlocks around one leg of the opponent to prevent scoring; or
b. delays the match. This includes straggling back from out of bounds, unnecessarily changing or
adjusting equipment or delay in assuming the starting position on the mat; orc. repeatedly creates a stalemate situation to prevent an opponent from scoring.
ART. 7 . . . The defensive wrestler is not stalling when overpowered.

So it is up to the referee to make his best judgement on the above, and lots of referees have different opinions on what they are seeing.
Okay, thank you. That answers my question.

Every year they have "points of emphasis." When was the last time stalling was included?

It's hard to argue about someone when discussing stalling, because most fans--no, all fans--will see it from their team's point of view. When team A has a stud they want it called on the other guy. When team A has a wrestler going against a stud, they want it to be let go.

I do see stalling called when a kid repeatedly backs up, when a kid is on the bottom and puts his head on the mat, when a kid holds onto a leg for too long, or when a kid rides parallel. One time I don't see it called where I wish it would be is when a kid on the bottom grabs a hand and holds on.

I commend the referees at the 2AA final 4. They made it clear early on that they were going to call it and they called it consistently on both teams in the semis and finals. I'm sure they were opening themselves up to criticism from the crowd, but I think the crowd figured it out pretty quickly and they didn't get too much heat.
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Feb 17 2015, 01:42 PM
One time I don't see it called where I wish it would be is when a kid on the bottom grabs a hand and holds on.

The top guy might have to put a little effort into getting his hand back in order for it to be called stalling.
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Feb 19 2015, 08:20 AM
MatRatWrestler
Feb 17 2015, 01:42 PM
One time I don't see it called where I wish it would be is when a kid on the bottom grabs a hand and holds on.

The top guy might have to put a little effort into getting his hand back in order for it to be called stalling.
Does yanking violently until it is let go of count?
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That should do it.

My point is if you don't try to get it back, it isn't technically holding on.
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Is it considered stalling in the top position? If you have the bottom man flat and in an arm bar and are out to the side trying to turn him. A kid was called for stalling with 10 seconds left in a 1-0 match at the state tournament. It ended up costing the kid the match when he clearly would have at the very least rode the kid out for a 1-0 win. I thought it looked like the ref just wanted to give the kid on the bottom the win.
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