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| Injury Default "Winner" and Match Count; If the match was never wrestled does it count in both wrestler's match counts? | |
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| Myrddin | Jan 18 2016, 03:22 PM Post #1 |
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If you are in a tournament situation and a wrestler has to injury default of out a tournament (say was injured in the consolation semifinal) does the match count towards the 5th place match's "winning" wrestler's total match count? |
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| WrestlingOfficial | Jan 18 2016, 07:08 PM Post #2 |
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For both wrestlers it counts as 1 of the 36 matches and actually goes in the overall record as a win for the winner and a loss for the loser |
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| .75 Nelson | Jan 20 2016, 10:19 PM Post #3 |
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How about the following round? |
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| WrestlingOfficial | Jan 21 2016, 08:36 AM Post #4 |
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Not understanding you following round. But let's say a kid gets injured in the Semi-Final round. He would lose that match by injury default and his opponent would win that match by ID and both would count this as a match. Next round consolation Semis again the semi-final loser would ID and both would count the match. Then for 5th/6th place match both again would count the match. So the Semi-Final loser would get 3 loses on his record for each injury default. Now the winner of each of those matches would count it against the 36 match count limit, however new this year it would not count against the max number of matches in a day (i.e. not against his 5 matches that day). |
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| Iowan@heart | Jan 21 2016, 09:37 AM Post #5 |
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I know that 4 of one of my sons' career losses are injury defaults where he finished a match but could not wrestle in the next two rounds. I do know that there is some sort of paperwork that can be filed with the MSHSL if you know ahead of time that an athlete may injury default so that the losses don't count on the wrestler's official record. |
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| .75 Nelson | Jan 21 2016, 10:45 AM Post #6 |
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You kind of answered my following rounds question. When the ID loss can still advance a wrestler through a tournament, it keeps counting as a loss and a match toward the 36 limit. So I would assume that if a wrestler inj. def. out of the first match of a tournament, that would be 1 match for each participant. The following consolation round a wrestler would advance by ID and the injured would then ID out of the tournament, counting as 1 match per participant. Injured wrestler has 2 losses for the day and two matches that count against his 36. Is that a safe assumption, do I have that right? |
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| Iowan@heart | Jan 21 2016, 10:53 AM Post #7 |
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That brings up a good question. I was thinking that I heard that the maximum number of losses that a wrestler had to take for inj def was 2 in one day, but what about tournaments that wrestle out of 7th/8th place. A wrestler could have 3 inj defaults in that case... |
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| KodiakCoach | Oct 27 2016, 01:24 AM Post #8 |
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I believe you may be confusing the injury default match counts. If wrestler A is injured during a match and can't continue, he would lose by injury default and his opponent would win by injury default. Both would be recorded on their total match count and records. The following match in an event, if wrestler A is unable or chooses not to wrestle because of his injury, his opponent would receive a forfeit (medical or otherwise) and recorded as a FF win, but wrestler A wouldn't lose and it shouldn't be recorded period. Forfeits of any nature do not count against a wrestler, a wrestlers record or his match count. An injury default can only happen once the match is started. Now of course, if Minnesota has specific rules due to their dual meet formats that are different from NFHS I may be mistaken. |
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